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[MrWiggles]

Excellent, I was hoping that there would be little magma pockets on every map.  I realized the other day that I'd never been in a jungle or desert because they don't usually have the features I want, and I've been playing for a while.

Oh yeah, in the next version, is there a way to put certain barrels away for brewing only?  My fortresses are always dry because plump helmets fill up the barrels faster than I can make them.

Um, hrm. Set up a room for the brewer that is owned by him, then drop barrels in to it maybe?

[G-Flex]

In my book, less map generation is a good thing. Now i can set up a reasonable fortress somewhere interesting, instead of somewhere where all the site features happen to be within a 6x6 cube.

I agree. I think it's important for choice of location to have its advantages and disadvantages, but right now, it's far too extreme.

• The special features are contained to mountains, limiting interesting choices for embark sites.
• None of the options for special features (and most other features) are truly mutually exclusive (partly due to the above). This is bad, because of it's possible for a "perfect site" to exist, people will spend a lot of time finding it.
• There's little flexibility when it comes to certain resources that require said flexibility. Sand stands out here as the one big example.
• Certain other aspects of regions don't affect gameplay as much as they should. Wildlife act too much the same, lack of special features (see above), rainfall not mattering much (you barely need water at all anyway, even less in the next version possibly), plus some other things, like swamps barely being distinguished from forests (and limited terrain variation in general. I want to see deserts with mesas and stuff). Temperature also doesn't make a big difference, with the exception of outdoor water freezing.
• Whatever I forgot to list.

Some of this is being addressed in the next version, of course. Special features won't be confined to mountains, which means their spot as the one huge criterion for having a "good embark site" is toast. We can also trade for sand and a few other new things, which solves that problem. I remain confident that the other issues will be improved upon; I just thought it might be worthwhile to consider what they are.

[Acanthus117]

well, not drop them in. Why not have your woodworker spend time with your lonely brewer making barrels?

(make a burrow, store wood/chosen ingredients, assign brewer and woodworker. Profit)

[Leotto]

I wonder how ANYONE would be able to play with 500 layers, thats insane!

500z execution tower. Dear Armok.

500z is my new favorite awesomeness landmark.

[HammerHand]

Excellent, I was hoping that there would be little magma pockets on every map.  I realized the other day that I'd never been in a jungle or desert because they don't usually have the features I want, and I've been playing for a while.

Oh yeah, in the next version, is there a way to put certain barrels away for brewing only?  My fortresses are always dry because plump helmets fill up the barrels faster than I can make them.

You can do this already.  Quoth the Wiki on Using Bins and Barrels:

"Reserved Barrels/Bins" is a global setting that reserves a certain number of barrels or bins, preventing them from being claimed by a stockpile until they are filled by a that requires their use. This feature is most often used to ensure that a fortress has ample empty barrels for the production of alcohol, although empty barrels are also necessary for other jobs. You can change this setting in the stockpile menu. If there are 5 reserved barrels, no stockpile will claim an empty barrel until you have at least 6 lying around. In this way you can ensure that jobs like making alcohol always have free barrels available.

Okay, so it won't set them apart for only brewing, but it will at least clear up your plump helmet problem.  Try also cooking said plump helmets.  Or growing fewer of them.  You could also set a cap on how many barrels your food stockpiles will use.  Since that's a matter of setting each cap individually, and the only efficient reason to do it would be to make room for prepared meals larger than 10, it is probably better to just reserve some barrels.

[yarr]

so we're already at the hydra test now?

expecting a release next week *cough*

[Acanthus117]

so we're already at the hydra test now?

expecting a release next week *cough*

Hold your horses, fella.

[Dohon]

A week would be very optimistic. I'm leaning more to mid-April. Right when I'm starting my internship at a radio channel. Ack.

[Acanthus117]

I'm betting atleast 2 weeks. :S

[Neonivek]

I'm betting atleast 2 weeks. :S

I am going to guess... May

I can't believe my February prediction that I made over a year ago was wrong...

[Dr. Hieronymous Alloy]

That's not necessarily true. There are still things like magma pipes to consider, and wanting to have a larger number of biomes on a single map, plus greater map surface is good for, say, trees. Of course, more underground layers means more rock, in general, so you don't have to worry about that.

It IS true, however, that you won't need to worry about the "special features" as much, because those won't be confined to specific areas like they are now.

Yeah. Embark location won't be an irrevocable mistake if you make a bad pick, but a good site -- with sand, a near-surface magma pipe, and surface water -- will still make things a *hell* of a lot easier.

[Orkel]

Hydra testing, awesome!

[tfaal]

I probably won't even play a fortress right off the bat; My first excursion into DF2010 is going to be adventurer mode. Here's my plan; fight some wolves above-ground, chat with some of the new titans and demons, check out the local's description paragraphs, and then when I feel good and ready, tackle the underground. I'm still unconvinced about the last one though. Having my first underworld experience be in fortress mode puts more at stake, but adventurer mode allows me to throw caution to the wind and check out the new beasties. Which are you gonna go with?

[Totaku]

Ah so after a month or so of bug fixing we just finally go to Hydra testing...

If were lucky enough we'll get it that part done before the 14th. But otherwise I have no idea how much longer this process will really take overall anymore since my guess literally flew out the window....

But I still call for a Spring release now. That's is for certain.

Also it's improtant to note that Toady's plans that he made clear for now is to work on the Military system, 40d# merge and more bug fixing. And that's just this month....

That still leave likely other interface changes, more "remaining test" and compacting. Plus we have no idea exactly how close it is till the 40d# has been nailed down to the point that it'll be marked as "ready" since there's still testing going on...

[smjjames]

Still, we're making progress now that we are at the Hydra test. We really should give credit to his 'old hands' team of testers for helping iron out the crashes and bugs. Looks like he has fixed most of the major crashes and is getting the more intermittent ones.

Also, what time did he post that up because he said tomorrow, so does that actually mean today or actually mean tomorrow?