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[MrGimp]

Gar, can't you just tell us what the poem means?

All will be made clear when the time is right.  Until then, only truly bearded dwarves will have the sacred knowledge.

[MrGimp]

Wait cancel that last post just finished. yay!!!

Ok to make myself feel like I didn't waste my life can I have a guy that is named Johann Schmidt. I want him to scheme, if possible I want him to be the queens son or someone that looks up to the queen and that wants to carry one the legacy of cleansing the grained souls with the etched marks of screams... my attempt at emo poetry. YAY if finished! I'm gonna go get wicked high and its 1 am.

Yeah Ill make you the eldest son of the Dungeon Mistress and the Philosopher.  You have no legitimacy, but you could claim that because all of Jewlettarette's kids are half-pagans, that they are unfit to rule.  Since you are full-blooded noble and are the oldest son of a Dungeon Master, you maybe could claim some right to rule.  Its definitely room for plotting and scheming, and if you're loyal to the Queen then she may use you against Airag and his brothers if need be.

[Cheddarius]

Time for collaborative puzzle solving!
This is what I have right now:

Spoiler: Translation (click to show/hide)

I'm using the language_DWARF file. Allcaps means I couldn't find the translation.
Face DWARF RIGETH mountain
North windstorm AZKAK friend
Hell stick-of-wood leader way
Pass steel wall

Decline crystal tube way
LINEM ultimate doom
Taker KIRAR way
Open NEKAL eye

Spoiler: Interpretation (click to show/hide)

The poem instructs the listener to apparently face the mountain (which one? The great pyramid, probably, or the main dwarven mountain if there is one). The second line is complete gibberish - north? A windstorm? A friend? Perhaps enter through the north entrance, or face north when entering (the south entrance)?
The third line seems like gibberish, but it my yet yield information. Stick-of-wood - a spear? And reference to a "way"; perhaps it means "go the way where there are engravings of a spear and the leader in order to enter the hell that is Blockedlance" or something - lance! Lance, that's it! The leader of Blockedlance - enter where there's an engraving of Queen Urist?
Then pass the steel wall. Not sure what that means. Maybe there's a fork, and the steel path is the correct one.
Then go down the crystal tube - fairly straightforward, meet the tentacle demons or whatnot, take a certain path. Uncertain about KIRAR - it doesn't appear in the file. And then open an eye of some sort to get the treasure.

Does anyone else know the other translations?

[r3d5kull]

Yeah Ill make you the eldest son of the Dungeon Mistress and the Philosopher.  You have no legitimacy, but you could claim that because all of Jewlettarette's kids are half-pagans, that they are unfit to rule.  Since you are full-blooded noble and are the oldest son of a Dungeon Master, you maybe could claim some right to rule.  Its definitely room for plotting and scheming, and if you're loyal to the Queen then she may use you against Airag and his brothers if need be.

Yes! Long live Queen Urist.

[Maggarg - Eater of chicke]

Even all that doesn't necessarily mean you'll live all that long.

[MrGimp]

Time for collaborative puzzle solving!
This is what I have right now:

Spoiler: Translation (click to show/hide)

I'm using the language_DWARF file. Allcaps means I couldn't find the translation.
Face DWARF RIGETH mountain
North windstorm AZKAK friend
Hell stick-of-wood leader way
Pass steel wall

Decline crystal tube way
LINEM ultimate doom
Taker KIRAR way
Open NEKAL eye

Spoiler: Interpretation (click to show/hide)

The poem instructs the listener to apparently face the mountain (which one? The great pyramid, probably, or the main dwarven mountain if there is one). The second line is complete gibberish - north? A windstorm? A friend? Perhaps enter through the north entrance, or face north when entering (the south entrance)?
The third line seems like gibberish, but it my yet yield information. Stick-of-wood - a spear? And reference to a "way"; perhaps it means "go the way where there are engravings of a spear and the leader in order to enter the hell that is Blockedlance" or something - lance! Lance, that's it! The leader of Blockedlance - enter where there's an engraving of Queen Urist?
Then pass the steel wall. Not sure what that means. Maybe there's a fork, and the steel path is the correct one.
Then go down the crystal tube - fairly straightforward, meet the tentacle demons or whatnot, take a certain path. Uncertain about KIRAR - it doesn't appear in the file. And then open an eye of some sort to get the treasure.

Does anyone else know the other translations?

Pretty good so far!

Spoiler: hints (click to show/hide)

The words that arent matching are words that have dashes and stuff above the vowels.  You could try searching for the words by their first or last syllable, or try searching for them in-game.

Also, word endings, tenses, and conjugations arent handled in the dwarven language.  So, for example, Drink, Drank, Drunk, Drinking, Drunken, Drinker, and Drinks would all be the same word in dwarvish.  So feel free to play around with the words to make more sense.

Oh crap....and I had a word wrong.  I edited the post.

Dunem should have been Dunan.  Whatever dwarf wrote this poem must've been drunk.

[Chaoseed]

Oh crap....and I had a word wrong.  I edited the post.

Dunem should have been Dunan.  Whatever dwarf wrote this poem must've been drunk.

Worse than that...sober.

[Cheddarius]

Updated.
Can you confirm that nekal is not, in fact, "r-kal"?
And that Azkak is not Askak?
And that Dwarf is actually a word, or should it just be dwarf?

Spoiler: Translation (click to show/hide)

Crawl DWARF craft mountain
North windstorm AZKAK friend
Hell stick-of-wood leader way
Pass steel wall

Decline crystal tube way
Face ultimate doom
Taker right way
Open NEKAL eye

Spoiler: Interpretation (click to show/hide)

Crawl into the crafted mountain - the pyramid. The pyramid crafted by dwarves?
The second line is complete gibberish - north? A windstorm? A friend? Perhaps enter through the north entrance, or face north when entering (the south entrance)? Azkak may be Askak, "scorpion" - that may yield a clue.
Go the way that is associated with hell and Queen Urist, possibly wielding a spear
Pass the steel wall.
Then go down the crystal tube.
Face the ultimate doom?
Take the right path.
Open some sort of eye. Possibly an "eerie" eye, if it is in fact r-kal, not nekal.

Does anyone else know the other translations?

[Argonnek]

Decline, in English, also means to refuse or say no. It could be saying do not take the crystal tube.

[Cheddarius]

Yeah, but we're not being offered the crystal tube, so that meaning of decline doesn't really apply.

[Akigagak]

Well, it could mean 'don't take the crystal tube' as in 'don't go down the crystal tube', or 'don't follow the crystal tube'.

Actually, that seems more likely than saying 'decline' as in 'to go down', since it isn't often it's used as anything but a way of refusing something politely.

[MrGimp]

Updated.
Can you confirm that nekal is not, in fact, "r-kal"?
And that Azkak is not Askak?
And that Dwarf is actually a word, or should it just be dwarf?

Spoiler: Translation (click to show/hide)

Crawl DWARF craft mountain
North windstorm AZKAK friend
Hell stick-of-wood leader way
Pass steel wall

Decline crystal tube way
Face ultimate doom
Taker right way
Open NEKAL eye

Spoiler: Interpretation (click to show/hide)

Crawl into the crafted mountain - the pyramid. The pyramid crafted by dwarves?
The second line is complete gibberish - north? A windstorm? A friend? Perhaps enter through the north entrance, or face north when entering (the south entrance)? Azkak may be Askak, "scorpion" - that may yield a clue.
Go the way that is associated with hell and Queen Urist, possibly wielding a spear
Pass the steel wall.
Then go down the crystal tube.
Face the ultimate doom?
Take the right path.
Open some sort of eye. Possibly an "eerie" eye, if it is in fact r-kal, not nekal.

Does anyone else know the other translations?

Yeah Dwarf just means Dwarf.  Oddly enough, dwarves dont have a word for dwarf in dwarvish.  So I just assumed they call themsleves dwarves, and everyone else got their word for dwarves from the dwarves.

Okay and on third glance, I fucked up again.  I blame it on my bad eyesight from staring at computer screens all day.  But yeah, lower case a's and o's look a lot a like in DF, and I was using the game to search for words (which was dumb, I shouldve used the file...lol).

Anyways, Azkak should be Ozkak, and Nekal should be Nekol.

Spoiler: More hints (click to show/hide)

Also, as a further hint...the language file differentiates stick from the word sticky, by implying a stick_wood, and stick_verb.  I just mean stick, not necessarily a stick of wood.  It could be a stick of stone or metal.  I would rather have used the word rod, but dwarvish doesnt contain such a word.

Further hint, Dwarvish doesnt have a word for descend.  Or even down.  Apparently these stout obstinate stubborn dwarves just decline everything.

[Cheddarius]

Updated.
When can we expect a save to try this out?

Spoiler: Translation (click to show/hide)

Crawl dwarf craft mountain
North windstorm carry friend
Hell stick leader way
Pass steel wall

Decline crystal tube way
Face ultimate doom
Taker right way
Open skull eye

Spoiler: Interpretation (click to show/hide)

Crawl into the crafted mountain (as opposed to the natural one) crafted by dwarves. Enter pyramid, that is.
The second line is complete gibberish - north windstorm carry friend? Carry your friend north, into the windstorm? The windstorm will carry your friend to the north? Carry the windstorm north, friend?
Go the way of Blockedlance's leader, Queen Urist. Probably.
Pass the steel wall.
Then go down the crystal tube.
Face the ultimate doom?
Take the right path.
Open the skull's eye - likely the skull mural on the first floor.

[MrGimp]

Updated.
When can we expect a save to try this out?

Spoiler: Translation (click to show/hide)

Crawl dwarf craft mountain
North windstorm carry friend
Hell stick leader way
Pass steel wall

Decline crystal tube way
Face ultimate doom
Taker right way
Open skull eye

Spoiler: Interpretation (click to show/hide)

Crawl into the crafted mountain (as opposed to the natural one) crafted by dwarves. Enter pyramid, that is.
The second line is complete gibberish - north windstorm carry friend? Carry your friend north, into the windstorm? The windstorm will carry your friend to the north? Carry the windstorm north, friend?
Go the way of Blockedlance's leader, Queen Urist. Probably.
Pass the steel wall.
Then go down the crystal tube.
Face the ultimate doom?
Take the right path.
Open the skull's eye - likely the skull mural on the first floor.

Probably gonna be a while before you guys get a save.   

Spoiler: last hint (click to show/hide)

Just like with stick, Toady wanted to differentiate wind from wind.  As in, wind from the sky (or a storm) or wind as in winding up a clock.  In game, 'num' can mean wind, winds, windy, as well as windstorm. 

Same with other words.  Taker can be take, takes, taking.  Leader can be leads, leading, lead, and so forth.  Try playing around with them.

[Cheddarius]

Hrmmmmm.
The north winds carry a friend?
Carry the north winds, friend?
The north wind carries... something, but what is it....
The stick of hell leads the way? The devil's trident?
Anyone else got any ideas?