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[Ioric Kittencuddler]

This just in, apparently if you complain about Spore's DRM on the official forum, you may get your license to play the game revoked and be forced to buy a new one!

http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=26564

http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/3869.page

[IndonesiaWarMinister]

Don't worry.
Here we always ANTI-EA...
I meant anti-buying-things-from-EA

Consclusion: Pirate makes right

[umiman]

On a side note, I just noticed that when you create stuff in Spore, the game automagikally saves an animated .gif of your creating process. It's super sweet! I'm really regarding this game more like LEGO than a game now.

I really didn't notice this before. Was this always there?

Here's a .gif of my siamese-butterfly-pedestal evolving into a mango pedestal.

[Neonivek]

I somehow doubt that Ioric

Most likely what happened is they spammed the forum, which has already happened, with DRM complaints. Spamming sounds like a reasonable offense.

"Consclusion: Pirate makes right"

No... The Conclusion is: Don't buy the game

I am starting to get REALLY good at making hair, alright well... two-three hairstyles... I am surprised at how well it is going

On a side note: I find it hillarious when people consider being kicked off a forum to be a constitutional error due to Free Speach when frankly Free Speach allows you the right to kick people off your property for whatever reason as long as it is private property.

[Tormy]

Frankly, I dont understand this DRM stuff at all. What is the point in it? Spore -for example- was leaked before the game was released even. Basically EA is just pissing off the people who actually buy these damned games. 

[Neonivek]

The DRM is supposed to do one or two things...

1) The Goody Goody Effect: It is supposed to stop common piracy which is non-internet based where people bring their games to a friend's house and allow them to play it until they never buy it in real life.
-People don't seem to realise that this is a LOT more common then they think. Honestly who hasn't borrowed games from a friend? You will find that more games are "Borrowed" then games that are simply stollen off the net.

2) The Evil Evil Effect: It is supposed to stop people from selling their games to a videogame store and allowing someone else to pick it up.

[Torak]

http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=26564

After reading this, I'm actually convinced that RPGCodex's forums aren't filled with moron.

[Neonivek]

http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=26564

After reading this, I'm actually convinced that RPGCodex's forums aren't filled with moron.

Are you being Sarcastic?

[Tormy]

What the hell is this?! 
http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/3869.page

"Please do not continue to post theses thread or you account may be at risk of banning which in some cases would mean you would need to buy a new copy to play Spore."

No comment...

[Neonivek]

What the hell is this?! 
http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/3869.page

"Please do not continue to post theses thread or you account may be at risk of banning which in some cases would mean you would need to buy a new copy to play Spore."

No comment...

Ignoring the fact that it is a downright lie... You can still play Spore you just no longer have access to Sporepedia or the Forums unless you buy another copy of Spore (Or download the Spore Demo... or buy the 10 dollar Spore Creature Creator game)

Well unless I am misinformed.

To my knowledge even Pirates don't have access to Sporepedia

Though If I am mistaken then it isn't anything new... MMORPGs have been doing it forever AND you can just Crack Spore. (Which people Spamming the DRM on the Spore forums probably have done anyhow.)

[Mephansteras]

1) The Goody Goody Effect: It is supposed to stop common piracy which is non-internet based where people bring their games to a friend's house and allow them to play it until they never buy it in real life.
-People don't seem to realise that this is a LOT more common then they think. Honestly who hasn't borrowed games from a friend? You will find that more games are "Borrowed" then games that are simply stollen off the net.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with this one. (Except from EA's moneygrubbing point of view, of course). After all, I bought the game, and if I lend it to a friend I can't use it. It's no different from me lending a friend a book, or even a lawnmower really. Sure, some people who might have otherwise bought one of those things may not because I lent it to them. On the other hand, most of the people I know that'll happily borrow stuff to use and then be done with wouldn't have bothered to buy the game/book/whatever anyway. The only reason they're borrowing it is because they can do so without having to pay any money for it.

EA is just...being evil for the sake of getting money. There really isn't anything else going on here.

EDIT: Found this article online: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/19/AR2008091900129.html

Muhahahaha. I think maybe EA'll be changing their practices after this. Backlash can be a wonderful thing in a market economy!

[Neonivek]

"Personally, I don't see anything wrong with this one. (Except from EA's moneygrubbing point of view, of course). After all, I bought the game, and if I lend it to a friend I can't use it. It's no different from me lending a friend a book, or even a lawnmower really"

If you look at the license agreements for your videogames and all that... you will notice that they outright say you cannot let your friend borrow your game.

You want to know something else? IT ISN'T ANYTHING NEW!!! Videogames in the 80s not ONLY said you couldn't let a friend borrow it... but guess what? You werent allowed to have it on more then one computer or system.

Frankly I am surprised at the sheer ammount of people who never read this compared that it is pretty standard. Honestly have you read them? They even say the company you bought it from can walk right into your house and take your copy of the game.

HECK you don't even own a lot of your videogames... your "Licensed" it...

[Sean Mirrsen]

Frankly I am surprised at the sheer ammount of people who never read this compared that it is pretty standard. Honestly have you read them? They even say the company you bought it from can walk right into your house and take your copy of the game.

Which is yet another reason not to buy licensed games.

Seriously though, the first agent of any company that will come to get anything from me will have that anything stuffed down his throat.

[Mephansteras]

Oh, yeah, I've read some of those. They're really rather extreme. Not that anyone really pays attention to them, or that the vast majority of "offenses" people commit are tracked or prosecuted in any way, shape or form. It's nonsense, really, and I'm glad to see that a lot of independent publishers recognize this and are moving away from it.

I was just looking at it from an objective standpoint, comparing it to other types of objects that one purchases. Books are a great example, since they're both forms of entertainment. And when you buy a book no one tries to stop you from lending it out, or selling it to a used book store.

Of course...books are a lot cheaper then games, which may have something to do with it.

[lumin]

"Personally, I don't see anything wrong with this one. (Except from EA's moneygrubbing point of view, of course). After all, I bought the game, and if I lend it to a friend I can't use it. It's no different from me lending a friend a book, or even a lawnmower really"

If you look at the license agreements for your videogames and all that... you will notice that they outright say you cannot let your friend borrow your game.

You want to know something else? IT ISN'T ANYTHING NEW!!! Videogames in the 80s not ONLY said you couldn't let a friend borrow it... but guess what? You werent allowed to have it on more then one computer or system.

Frankly I am surprised at the sheer ammount of people who never read this compared that it is pretty standard. Honestly have you read them? They even say the company you bought it from can walk right into your house and take your copy of the game.

HECK you don't even own a lot of your videogames... your "Licensed" it...

Just because they make you agree to something like that doesn't mean that it would stand up in a court of law.  If a software company says they have the right to barge into your home and take your game if you break their agreement you can call the police and charge them with breaking and entering.  I'd bet a jury would always side with the customer in a circumstance like that.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if EA would be forced to make their user agreement more lax if someone sued them over their Nazi-like copy rules.

They may only be getting away with it now because nobody has made a serious attempt to question its constitutionality.

The more EA becomes the biggest guy on the block, the more they will catch the attention of the government.  Just look at Microsoft's endless feud with the feds.