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[Captain Mayday]

So. I just started a fortress with this mod and it comes to the first caravan (autumn) and so.


Two caravans come, avar and goblins. Is this a bug? Or is it normal?

It's normal. I've removed the Avari caravans from the next version, since they don't associate with other races unless they're purging them.

[DevHyfes]

Is there anything I can do to prevent the avari caravan from coming in the current view?

Basically, the avari caravan comes...I cannot trade with him, because when I try, they aren't offering anything. And then when he leaves, they get towards the edge of the map and go berserk...I think this is because the Avari can fly, and he ends up leading his mule off a cliff, leading to the Avari to freak out and go crazy...Maybe I'm wrong though.

In any case, this means I have to go find the avari caravan remains and forbid all of its contents before my haulers run out to get slaughtered.

I am all about the idea of flying attack dudes- it sounds muy awesome. But this is more an annoyance than anything else.

[Deon]

Try to remove seasons from them.

[jjv]

The insectoids and the avar conspired together to bug my current fortress. The insectoids ambushed my fortress. Then an avar caravan appeared nearby and the insectoids rushed to slaughter them. This resulted in a fairly spectacular aerial battle, but left behind a single insectoid wrestler hovering several z-levels up. He's too high for my marksmen to hit and I can't build any platforms because he spooks my workers. He's now a permanent fixture.

[LordNagash]

Wow, that's possibly the most lol bug I've ever heard of, no pun intended.

[Jamini]

Bug: Phantoms spawn in environments that are too hot for them and will "Die in the Heat" as soon as you enter a site

Problem: Semi-megabeasts feel somewhat absurdly hardcore in this mod sometimes. Here is a sample fight between a group of adventurers consisting of an Axeman, Hammerman, Crossbowman, Bowman, Pikeman,  and a Lasher against a single gargoyle.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Gargoyle charges at You!
The Gargoyle claws You in the upper body with its left claw!
It is torn into pieces!
The Gargoyle collides with You!
You are knocked over and tumble backward!
You have been struck down.
The Pikeman stabs The Gargoyle in the upper body with her -Iron pike-!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle charges at The Pikeman!
The Gargoyle attacks The Pikeman but She jumps away!
The flying Iron arrow strikes The Gargoyle in the upper body!
It is damaged!
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the lower body!
The shot glances away.
The Pikeman attacks The Gargoyle but It jumps away!
The Gargoyle charges at The Pikeman!
The Gargoyle swats The Pikeman in the left upper leg with its right wing!
It is mangled!
The Gargoyle collides with The Pikeman!
The Pikeman is knocked over and tumbles backward!
The flying Iron arrow strikes The Gargoyle in the lower body!
The shot glances away.
The Pikeman gives in to pain.
The Gargoyle grabs The Pikeman by the left foot with its right wing!
The Gargoyle swats The Pikeman in the upper body with its right wing!
It collapses into a lump of gore!
Atal Jasrokem, Pikeman has been struck down.
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the right arm!
The shot glances away.
The flying Iron arrow strikes The Gargoyle in the right leg!
The shot glances away.
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the upper body!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle grabs The Hammerman by the thumb, right hand with its left claw!
The Hammerman bashes The Gargoyle in the right claw with her Iron maul!
The shot glances away.
The flying Iron arrow strikes The Gargoyle in the lower body!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle releases the grip of The Gargoyle's left claw on The Hammerman's thumb, right hand.
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the head!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle strikes at The Hammerman but the shot is blocked!
The Hammerman counterstrikes!
The Hammerman bashes The Gargoyle in the right leg with her Iron maul!
The shot glances away.
The Hammerman misses The Gargoyle!
The flying Iron arrow strikes The Gargoyle in the left arm!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle claws The Hammerman in the head with its left claw!
The Hammerman loses hold of the Iron helm.
The Hammerman loses hold of the Iron mask.
The Hammerman loses hold of the Iron shield.
The Hammerman loses hold of the Iron maul.
The head flies off in a bloody arc!
Co¤u Dotepebbak, Hammerman has been struck down.
The Lasher lashes The Gargoyle in the right wing with his Iron whip!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle charges at The Bowman!
The Gargoyle swats The Bowman in the right foot with its right wing!
It is mangled!
The Bowman's right ankle has been crippled!
The Bowman's third toe, right foot has been mangled!
The Gargoyle collides with The Bowman!
The Bowman is knocked over and tumbles backward!
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the right leg!
The shot glances away.
The Bowman gives in to pain.
The Gargoyle swats The Bowman in the left lower leg with its right wing!
It is mangled!
The Gargoyle grabs The Bowman by the fourth finger, left hand with its right claw!
The Lasher lashes The Gargoyle in the lower body with his Iron whip!
The shot glances away.
Abo Ranelaroth, Bowman has bled to death.
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the lower body!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle strikes at The Lasher but the shot is blocked!
The Lasher counterstrikes!
The Lasher lashes The Gargoyle in the lower body with his Iron whip!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle charges at The Lasher!
The Gargoyle attacks The Lasher but He jumps away!
The Gargoyle charges at The Lasher!
The Gargoyle strikes at The Lasher but the shot is blocked!
The Gargoyle collides with The Lasher!
The Lasher is knocked over and tumbles backward!
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the left leg from behind!
It is damaged!
The Gargoyle grabs The Lasher by the *®-giant red-back spider chitin long skirt-¯* with its right claw!
The Gargoyle strikes at The Lasher but the shot is blocked!
The Lasher stands up.
The Gargoyle charges at The Lasher!
The Gargoyle strikes at The Lasher but the shot is blocked!
The Gargoyle collides with The Lasher!
The Lasher is knocked over and tumbles backward!
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the lower body from behind!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle bashes The Lasher in the upper body with its *®-giant red-back spider chitin long skirt-¯*!
It collapses into a lump of gore!
The Lasher is propelled away by the force of the blow!
The Lasher loses hold of the Iron helmet.
The Lasher loses hold of the Iron mask.
The Lasher loses hold of the Iron shield.
The Lasher loses hold of the Iron whip.
The Lasher loses hold of the Iron right gauntlet.
The Lasher loses hold of the giant red-back spider silk right glove.
The Lasher loses hold of the Iron left gauntlet.
The Lasher loses hold of the giant red-back spider silk left glove.
The Lasher loses hold of the -Iron low boot-.
The Lasher loses hold of the -large red-back spider silk sock-.
The Lasher loses hold of the large red-back spider silk sock.
The Lasher slams into an obstacle and blows apart!
Co¤u Komeman, Lasher has been struck down.
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the left wing!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle charges at The Crossbowman!
The Gargoyle bashes The Crossbowman in the left hand with its *®-giant red-back spider chitin long skirt-¯*!
It is mangled!
The Gargoyle collides with The Crossbowman!
The Crossbowman is knocked over and tumbles backward!
The Crossbowman gives in to pain.
The Gargoyle bashes The Crossbowman in the head with its *®-giant red-back spider chitin long skirt-¯*!
It is smashed into the body, an unrecognizable mass!
The Crossbowman is propelled away by the force of the blow!
The Crossbowman loses hold of the +Rope reed helmet+.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the Iron mask.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the Bismuth bronze crossbow.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the Rope reed right glove.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the Rope reed left glove.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the spotted tree snake leather low boot.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the Rope reed sock.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the Rope reed sock.
The Crossbowman slams into an obstacle and blows apart!
Tin Pucracon, Crossbowman has been struck down.

[Captain Mayday]

Bug: Phantoms spawn in environments that are too hot for them and will "Die in the Heat" as soon as you enter a site

Problem: Semi-megabeasts feel somewhat absurdly hardcore in this mod sometimes. Here is a sample fight between a group of adventurers consisting of an Axeman, Hammerman, Crossbowman, Bowman, Pikeman,  and a Lasher against a single gargoyle.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Gargoyle charges at You!
The Gargoyle claws You in the upper body with its left claw!
It is torn into pieces!
The Gargoyle collides with You!
You are knocked over and tumble backward!
You have been struck down.
The Pikeman stabs The Gargoyle in the upper body with her -Iron pike-!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle charges at The Pikeman!
The Gargoyle attacks The Pikeman but She jumps away!
The flying Iron arrow strikes The Gargoyle in the upper body!
It is damaged!
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the lower body!
The shot glances away.
The Pikeman attacks The Gargoyle but It jumps away!
The Gargoyle charges at The Pikeman!
The Gargoyle swats The Pikeman in the left upper leg with its right wing!
It is mangled!
The Gargoyle collides with The Pikeman!
The Pikeman is knocked over and tumbles backward!
The flying Iron arrow strikes The Gargoyle in the lower body!
The shot glances away.
The Pikeman gives in to pain.
The Gargoyle grabs The Pikeman by the left foot with its right wing!
The Gargoyle swats The Pikeman in the upper body with its right wing!
It collapses into a lump of gore!
Atal Jasrokem, Pikeman has been struck down.
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the right arm!
The shot glances away.
The flying Iron arrow strikes The Gargoyle in the right leg!
The shot glances away.
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the upper body!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle grabs The Hammerman by the thumb, right hand with its left claw!
The Hammerman bashes The Gargoyle in the right claw with her Iron maul!
The shot glances away.
The flying Iron arrow strikes The Gargoyle in the lower body!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle releases the grip of The Gargoyle's left claw on The Hammerman's thumb, right hand.
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the head!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle strikes at The Hammerman but the shot is blocked!
The Hammerman counterstrikes!
The Hammerman bashes The Gargoyle in the right leg with her Iron maul!
The shot glances away.
The Hammerman misses The Gargoyle!
The flying Iron arrow strikes The Gargoyle in the left arm!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle claws The Hammerman in the head with its left claw!
The Hammerman loses hold of the Iron helm.
The Hammerman loses hold of the Iron mask.
The Hammerman loses hold of the Iron shield.
The Hammerman loses hold of the Iron maul.
The head flies off in a bloody arc!
Co¤u Dotepebbak, Hammerman has been struck down.
The Lasher lashes The Gargoyle in the right wing with his Iron whip!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle charges at The Bowman!
The Gargoyle swats The Bowman in the right foot with its right wing!
It is mangled!
The Bowman's right ankle has been crippled!
The Bowman's third toe, right foot has been mangled!
The Gargoyle collides with The Bowman!
The Bowman is knocked over and tumbles backward!
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the right leg!
The shot glances away.
The Bowman gives in to pain.
The Gargoyle swats The Bowman in the left lower leg with its right wing!
It is mangled!
The Gargoyle grabs The Bowman by the fourth finger, left hand with its right claw!
The Lasher lashes The Gargoyle in the lower body with his Iron whip!
The shot glances away.
Abo Ranelaroth, Bowman has bled to death.
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the lower body!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle strikes at The Lasher but the shot is blocked!
The Lasher counterstrikes!
The Lasher lashes The Gargoyle in the lower body with his Iron whip!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle charges at The Lasher!
The Gargoyle attacks The Lasher but He jumps away!
The Gargoyle charges at The Lasher!
The Gargoyle strikes at The Lasher but the shot is blocked!
The Gargoyle collides with The Lasher!
The Lasher is knocked over and tumbles backward!
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the left leg from behind!
It is damaged!
The Gargoyle grabs The Lasher by the *®-giant red-back spider chitin long skirt-¯* with its right claw!
The Gargoyle strikes at The Lasher but the shot is blocked!
The Lasher stands up.
The Gargoyle charges at The Lasher!
The Gargoyle strikes at The Lasher but the shot is blocked!
The Gargoyle collides with The Lasher!
The Lasher is knocked over and tumbles backward!
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the lower body from behind!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle bashes The Lasher in the upper body with its *®-giant red-back spider chitin long skirt-¯*!
It collapses into a lump of gore!
The Lasher is propelled away by the force of the blow!
The Lasher loses hold of the Iron helmet.
The Lasher loses hold of the Iron mask.
The Lasher loses hold of the Iron shield.
The Lasher loses hold of the Iron whip.
The Lasher loses hold of the Iron right gauntlet.
The Lasher loses hold of the giant red-back spider silk right glove.
The Lasher loses hold of the Iron left gauntlet.
The Lasher loses hold of the giant red-back spider silk left glove.
The Lasher loses hold of the -Iron low boot-.
The Lasher loses hold of the -large red-back spider silk sock-.
The Lasher loses hold of the large red-back spider silk sock.
The Lasher slams into an obstacle and blows apart!
Co¤u Komeman, Lasher has been struck down.
The flying Iron bolt strikes The Gargoyle in the left wing!
The shot glances away.
The Gargoyle charges at The Crossbowman!
The Gargoyle bashes The Crossbowman in the left hand with its *®-giant red-back spider chitin long skirt-¯*!
It is mangled!
The Gargoyle collides with The Crossbowman!
The Crossbowman is knocked over and tumbles backward!
The Crossbowman gives in to pain.
The Gargoyle bashes The Crossbowman in the head with its *®-giant red-back spider chitin long skirt-¯*!
It is smashed into the body, an unrecognizable mass!
The Crossbowman is propelled away by the force of the blow!
The Crossbowman loses hold of the +Rope reed helmet+.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the Iron mask.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the Bismuth bronze crossbow.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the Rope reed right glove.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the Rope reed left glove.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the spotted tree snake leather low boot.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the Rope reed sock.
The Crossbowman loses hold of the Rope reed sock.
The Crossbowman slams into an obstacle and blows apart!
Tin Pucracon, Crossbowman has been struck down.

Are you sure that was with the Play files, not the worldgen files?

[Jay]

Does this work with the latest version? I tried it a while back and I got rampages "The 1096th Rampage of  s in Steelhead"
Intrigued, I examined closer...
"Six anchovies attack!"

[Jamini]

Yes, I am sure. Before that gargoyle I had killed a Giant with only marginal danger while solo. (I also savescummed and ran the Worldgen/Play swap... to no visible effect in the game.)

I think it has to do with the excessivly high damage values for the Gargoyle's claws, the 14 damblock, and his size. The size of a creature directly adds into both damblock and damage without, when combined with an already nasty attack... well..

There is a reason most attacks are 1:2(punches)-1:6(Bites). (1:3 seems to be the standard for clawing attacks.)

[d3c0y2]

Mayday since using this the ability to place magma buildings seems to have broke.

is this a usual problem?

[Captain Mayday]

Mayday since using this the ability to place magma buildings seems to have broke.

is this a usual problem?

I'm currently working on a new version, but I've not seen this happen. I'll investigate.

[Captain Mayday]

Just a note for myself: Add a race of catsized cat men. Fast, small, not particularly deadly.

[Rockphed]

I think the Insectoids are a bit too hard-core.  I have now lost 2 fortresses to a single ambush of Insectoids.  And the thieves tend to just hang in the air(though if I can get them down they run away.)

[Captain Mayday]

Update 1.10

[Captain Mayday]

updated with 1.10.1 to fix minor naming bug