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[Imp]

Yeah, it's just potentially a wincon-essential detail.  I don't know and am being careful, maybe needlessly.

So, N3 we should see Juice win, despite being butchered by Verm D3.  I'm slightly unsure about that just because of the mechanics claim that it prevents after-death actions, since the game rules prevent after-death actions typically (but someone's alignment request probably could make some changes there).

I die from elim today; if Juice doesn't win N3 either something really weird is going on with someone's mechanics (and it's not mine; I do die when I die and all that normal stuff, plus you will see my flip unless there's a second player also blocking flips from deaths).  So, if Juice doesn't win N3, either Juice lied about wincon of 'dead Imp' (but why?) or being eaten by Verm before winning messes up the win despite Verm not thinking that's the case.

If we see Juice not win when expected, I'd be delighted if Max and Verm adjust the plan so Verm does get bitten to become a vamp (I win once all live players are monster status, which being [Vampire] gives) then I'm eaten after all players still alive are [vampires] so I can win too, I'd be grateful.

Assuming nobody is hiding a nasty, incompatible wincon or decides they are 'done helping everyone possible win' motives, here's the recommended actions for each of us this game.

Imp:  Just die already (but no need to rush the day end if there's stuff left to discuss).

FoU: N3 activate your Mirror.  N4 double action, both eat the red candy and target Max for Feed.  You should win D5, nothing else to do.

Max and Verm:  If Juice doesn't win N3; I probably need you both to do a bit more delay and adjustment else either I or Verm lose too; an attempt to save me from Juice's 'didn't win before being eaten' (if that's a problem, we confirm N3) means Verm needs Max to stick around longer to be a feed target or Verm loses because for sure he can't use his day butcher action if he has nobody to feed on the night before.  If Juice didn't win N3 but CM happens to win D5 - then Juice just lied a second time about his wincon and being butchered/eaten by Verm is not a wincon problem, but I'll still need Max to be last in play or Verm also vamped or will I lose, however you guys work it (the plans I wrote below work, there are other ways).

If Juice wins N3:
D4 give candy to FoU, D6 vote Yes, win N6 and nothing else needs be done.

If Juice does not win N3:
D4 give candy to FoU, N5 feed on Verm (essential to vamp him so Imp can win).  N6 feed on Verm (needed only to ensure you can vote, maybe not needed), D7 vote Yes (I expect you see Imp win D7 as well), win N7 and nothing else needs be done.

Verm:
If Juice wins N3:
N4 target FoU.  D5 butcher Imp.  N5 target Max.  Win D6 and nothing else needs be done.

If Juice does not win N3:
N4 target FoU.  N5 target Max.  N6 feed on Max.  D7 butcher Imp (I expect you see I won at start of today).  Win N7 and nothing else needs be done.



I can't think of anything else that can mess up everyone winning other than what I covered for above.  If there's no unknown unknowns, that should be the full solve.

[NJW2000]

Placing a vote is not an action.

If a majority of players want to shorten, just say so in bold, and we can go straight to the end of the day.

[Imp]

Whew.  No need to ask Verm to slow to be available for Max to use to vote then.  Back to the faster Verm schedule, if we see Juice win tonight.

Verm:
If Juice wins N3:
N3 target FoU.  D3 butcher Imp.  N4 target Max (same as FoU, one wound that disappears on Max vamping).  Win D5 and nothing else needs be done.

I'm about to go off to work, gone loads of hours again.  In case others want this, shorten.  If anyone sees flaw or problem, please do speak up and lets get a fix first.

My final celebratory thoughts and comments:

Fallacy, I'm glad I'm not actually Willy Wonka, and I'm glad the Unknown is not my wincon.  But this is surely the kinda Willy Wonka I'd have been if I was that.  It's also probably how I'd have tried to play this actual game if we couldn't mostly or all get along   Instead, I hope we have the Unknown in a tiny box, maybe even out of play already.

Verm, salivations and eatings (instead of salutations and greetings).  Pie and sous vide (instead of bye and so long).

Max, I can only imagine this and it's probably a bad match, but thanks for considering turning an impossible mess into a 'this is so boringly simple why are we even doing it, but oh well'.

And this is how I feel as I end (for myself, I believe) this test of a game.

[Maximum Spin]

Shortening sounds good to me.

[VermilionSkies]

Yep, everything should be good!
Shorten.

[Imp]

Sweet.

My final celebrate my character song, this game.  Sooooo much fun being a mad scientist with nothing to get angry about.

[Maximum Spin]

By the way, while I DO intend to follow the plan, I also intend to use my action tonight so that I can guarantee a win if something goes wrong and cooperation fails.

[Imp]

By the way, while I DO intend to follow the plan, I also intend to use my action tonight so that I can guarantee a win if something goes wrong and cooperation fails.

Understood and cool.  You being ready to handle a problem doesn't itself cause a problem, unless it goes into motion in a way that blows the plan.

You're all bright people.  If someone pulls and Unknown, I know you're do what you can, and probably anyone else's wincons be danged.  Oh well, such is the game.  Be fun to see how it plays out.

[FallacyofUrist]

FoU: N3 activate your Mirror.  N4 double action, both eat the red candy and target Max for Feed.  You should win D5, nothing else to do.

Got it.

[NJW2000]

End of Day 3


One of your number enthusiastically outlines a plan to achieve your ends, scribbling timelines and diagrams on bar napkins and stained tablecloths. The plan involves their own immediate decapitation - a prospect they discuss with gleeful anticipation. Unnerved, you comply.

Three guests remain.


Imp has been eliminated.

Imp's alignment was Halloweentown.

Imp was a [Transformed] Mad Scientist.



Juicebox has won and left the game.

Juicebox's alignment was Anarch.

Juicebox was a [Vampire] Sweeper.

Spoiler: Imp (click to show/hide)

Alignment: Halloweentown
    - You win when all other living players have the Monster status and some other living players remain
    - You lose if there are no other living players



Role:[Transformed] Mad Scientist

You may target yourself with any action
If you would die on Night 0, you instead gain the Wounded status
While you are alive, no information is revealed when a player dies

Offer Red Candy: [Day][1-shot] give up to 3 players Red Candy

Reanimate: [Dead][1-shot] target one dead player. Your target will become alive at the start of the next phase, and gains the Undead and Monster status. They lose the Wounded status

Transylvanian Retrovirus: [1-shot] your target gains the [Vampire] role modifier

Experimental surgery: if your target has the Wounded status, they gain the status Monster and lose the Wounded status

[Transformed] You cannot be prevented from acting at night
You gain the Monster status
Terrifying Presence: You prevent your target from acting

Spoiler: Juicebox (click to show/hide)

Alignment: Anarch
    - You win if Imp dies
    - You lose if Imp leaves the game without dying

Role: [Vampire] Sweeper
At the start of each day, you learn which players have the Undead status
If you successfully use the action Bite on three or more different players, you gain the [Blood Potentate] role modifier
Investigate: you learn your target's role
Background check: you learn your target's alignment and win condition
Sweeper Network: you may send your target a single message. They will receive the message at the start of the next phase. They will not be informed that you are the sender

[Vampire]You may act twice during the night, as long as both actions do not target the same player
You cannot have the Wounded status
You gain the Undead status
You gain the Monster status
Successfully performing a Bite action on a player that does not have the Undead status results in them gaining the [Vampire] role modifier at start of the subsequent night
If you do not successfully perform a Bite action on a player, you cannot act on the subsequent day
Bite: your target gains the Wounded status. Your target is informed that they were bitten

Spoiler: Public Information (click to show/hide)

Loud - if you visit a player, they are informed that you visited them

Wounded - if you are hit with an action that would normally apply the Wounded status, you die. This does not include actions taken on the phase you gained this status

Undead - you are a member of the undead. Still alive though

Monster - you are a monster

Red Candy - taking this candy gives you the [Transformed] role modifier

[Vampire]
You may act twice during the night, as long as both actions do not target the same player
You cannot have the Wounded status
You gain the Undead status
You gain the Monster status
Successfully performing a Bite action on a player that does not have the Undead status results in them gaining the [Vampire] role modifier at start of the subsequent night
If you do not successfully perform a Bite action on a player, you cannot act on the subsequent day

Bite: your target gains the Wounded status. Your target is informed that they were bitten

[Blood Potentate] You gain votes equal to the number of other living players with the [Vampire] role modifier

Night 3 has begun. Send actions in now.



Vote Count

Imp: VermillionSkies, MaximumSpin
MaximumSpin:
FallacyofUrist:
VermillionSkies:
No Elimination:
Yes: Imp

Not Voting:  FallacyofUrist




Night 3 will end in approximately 24 hours, at 12:00 (noon) GMT Friday 04/10/2024 or sooner if all actions have been submitted.

[NJW2000]

Start of Day 4



In the saloon, everything is as it was. But there is a strange taste in the air, as if there has been a sudden and decisive shift in the balance of power.




Vote Count

MaximumSpin:
FallacyofUrist:
VermillionSkies:
No Elimination:
Yes: FallacyofUrist

Not Voting:  VermillionSkies, MaximumSpin


Day 4 will end in approximately 73 hours, at 13:00 GMT Monday 7/10/2024, or sooner if all players wish to shorten.

[Maximum Spin]

Today we do nothing.

[VermilionSkies]

[Con] modifier acquired, and looking at Fallacy's role they should be able to win the game tonight without any issues.
Today I butcher Imp, tonight I bite Max, and then the rest is up to Max.
No Elim.
Shorten.

[Maximum Spin]

Shorten.

[FallacyofUrist]

Can confirm I've been bitten. Can confirm I've used Mirror Stance.

When did CM stop being present, again?

Shorten.