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[TricMagic]

Imp, do you have a list of claimed roles and night actions somewhere?

[ToonyMan]

1. Blue and Red Sphere results:

Blue Sphere: Kill - two abilities, three items
Red Sphere: Limitation - five abilities, one item

2. I made my Blue/Red Sphere knowledge also gain Chaos Emerald Roundup.

3. I joined a Secret Basement chat with Elephant and FoU and I got the item thing for it.

4. My Wishbone I have gained the free action tag.

That's it.

[Elephant Parade]

I have a lot of problems with this post, but here's the biggest: why are you so convinced you won't be able to change my mind?

Because I can't change anyone's mind? Never works out for me. I'm not persuasive in a mafia-game context.

I don't know what it'll take to change that, but it hasn't happened so far.

I mean, you changed my mind D1, a little. I thought your Toony tunnel was weird and you mostly convinced me it was weird in a town way! Maybe you can do it again!

[Imp]

If people are comfortable with me having the kill-EP stuff, I can take it out of play, but at a not infinite speed.  I can get one out of play tonight for sure.

I can trade the Emerald I took for... I would prefer CM's item instead of FoU.

If FoU is elim today, no reason to trade.  If FoU is not elim today, perhaps moving items tonight will move FoU's dangerous item to me.

If people are not comfortable with those items in my hands, we can discuss, but my intention is to take them out of play.

But let's discuss more before we confirm trades.

[Imp]

Imp, do you have a list of claimed roles and night actions somewhere?

Spoiler:  N1 claims (click to show/hide)

Imp:  involved in the loss of two items Tric says were taken, yellow chaos emerald and Arthur Conan Doyle's Magnifying Glass.  Got an apple.  Had something dup happen.

Tric:  Lost the two items Imp is involved in.  "I used my Magnifying Glass on webadict, no tricks apparent."  Claims to be completely action-less right now.

CM:  Claims able to steal an item, used on Toony, gain of wishbone.  Unexpectedly also gained Family Jewels, which EP claims to have lost.

Toony:  Claims detected 1 person with second wincon.  Separately, I don't understand this but, "That's right. The wishbone I got did this. I didn't use it last night and I lost it as well."  It sounds like Toony had a wishbone D1, didn't use it N2, lost it N2, got it back N2.  That sounds maybe possible to have happen, though I don't do stuff like that and I was not involved in this happening  Two separate wishbones are possible.  I don't know that ability as described exists, but it sounds reasonable for this game.

MS:  Acted on FoU to change an ability with FoU's consent and confirmation ability changed.  "I got a free copy of one of my powers."

EJ:  "I used my Invite Chat ability successfully. No action triggered me. And I mean NO action, not even a mod PM saying "Hey Jack, your chat invite was successful!" I had to log into the chat to see that it actually worked!"  "If you lynch me, I won't die, and you'll have to play through Day 2 again on Day 3."  "@Imp: I actually can not kill you, yet."

EP:  Confirms lost item which gained by CM, neither can explain the transfer.  "I invited Toonyman to my "Town Hall" groupchat last night. I picked him because I wanted him onside if he was town and he was a good target for my free-action AoE sphere cop ability if he wasn't."

FoU:  "I'm no longer vulnerable to EuchreJack's death"  "I will happily claim that my own night action is entirely confirmable, though. If anyone feels like they've been duped, please speak up."

NJW:  "I acted on FoU and Toony, and will say more later if necessary."  "I have the bible page."  "I wishboned toony and FoU and somehow lost the wishbone doing that… I don’t get it but maybe somebody else will."  "Ok. I have the second wincon - I win and leave the game if targeted by scum on three consecutive nights."  "I am genuinely town-aligned in my motivations here"  "I understand if that makes people trust me less, and it should. It shouldn’t make people trust me a LOT less though - I didn’t need to reveal this, I just wanted to get the discussion over."

N2 claims we haven't even heard them all, I'll provide many hours from now.

[TricMagic]

Thanks.

To note, I mostly want to know if the Kill and/or Convultion spheres are on that item. Maybe limited too? A knife that kills you does not sound like anything but a dud, and that isall the way across the grid!

[Imp]

I can trade the Emerald I took for... I would prefer CM's item instead of FoU.

Whoops, would be Toony's instead, but I'm open to either, or some other plan.

Just let me know, I don't need it, want it, but I can be challenging to steal from, and having one only come to me through trade is useful for tonight, where I can get it out of play if we agree that's a good use for it.

[Imp]

Fallacy, what spheres does the Ritual Knife have?

I would answer that, but Imp doesn't want me to. Toony should also have a Knife and know what the spheres are, though.

If EP says say it, very cool.  Far as I know, it could risk EP for that to be common knowledge.  Maybe not.  We know Max could use it to try and target a kill, he's gone.  Maybe it's safe.  I don't know.  I mostly just want EP to have the choice.

[Elephant Parade]

The knives have the (Kill) sphere and nothing else. If you think about it, (Dud) wouldn't make much sense.

[Imp]

As far as I know, the items I take out of play cannot be used to aim kills at me, so I'm pretty okay with that.  We have to move them around, many of them, for various reasons, so that helps reduce/adjust risk.

With luck, we have nearly no real danger and NJW has control over it all (Has there ever been a mafia game where that was possible before?).  Any sphere most of us have - is safer to have, because harder to aim and more likely to kill any of the group, maybe the scum has it too.

Fruit selling - could not have targeted me and likely was part of Qua's method of killing, for example.  But if we all have a chat sphere (I don't currently), then we're all at equal risk even if that's known.

[ToonyMan]

We're aware of every Kill sphere in play, so there's nobody hiding a kill sphere.

I don't know about all the Limitation spheres though.

[Imp]

Blue Sphere: Kill - two abilities, three items

We're aware of every Kill sphere in play, so there's nobody hiding a kill sphere.

Depending on when the six-shooter left play, and if you can still track items with tags out of play (I don't believe that's possible, based on the wording of my ability) and when the two kill EP items came into play - we don't know where those items are.

I am going to guess one of the three items with kill on it you found last night is the six-shooter.  But EP, do you believe the knives existed N2 to be detectable?

If not, we have two other kill items out there.  I confirm I don't know anything about them, and I didn't create new items last night (I hope to tonight, unless we decide its not pro-town).

[Elephant Parade]

Assuming Toony's detect happens at the end of the night, yes, I have no reason to think they aren't detectable.

[ToonyMan]

Assuming Toony's detect happens at the end of the night, yes, I have no reason to think they aren't detectable.

The sphere results are from end-of-night.

[TricMagic]

Elephant, might want to state your spheres in full.