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[Imp]

Hey, God.  Now that I'm wondering so much, just want to ask here.  Would you assign a jester role that had a reason not to vote themself, or an outright inability to?

[Maximum Spin]

Would you assign a jester role that had a reason not to vote themself, or an outright inability to?

Purely hypothetically, yes, I absolutely might do that. In fact, it's likely that a jester would have a drawback like that, especially an antisocial one, since I wouldn't want to make things too easy.

[EuchreJack]

Actually, I think we can be fairly sure that Fallacy is Town

Assume that Fallacy dies and flips Town.  That leaves you the following five voting players going into Night 2:
NQT
Imp
EuchreJack
sofanthiel
CrystalizedMire

Did I forget anyone?

Now, mafia undoubtably kills again.  Let us assume a 2 player scumteam.  So, if two of the players above are scum, then they win on Night 2.

Should we risk losing over the possibility of a "quick win"? Life ain't that easy

[EuchreJack]

...If anyone is a Jester, it's Web, not Fallacy.

[webadict]

...If anyone is a Jester, it's Web, not Fallacy.

I wish, this game would be easy!  Fallacy would be doing my job for me!

[FallacyofUrist]

I'd consider you a jester, but you haven't hammered yourself.

It's very tempting, trust me! But the longer I last before dying, the more information is generated. Hammering myself would be anti-town.

But if you are totally, one hundred percent confident, absolutely and totally, that I am not town, and you say so to my face, I'll do it. Just for you.

Town top, Scum bottom.
Most town: NQT
Imp
TricMagic
EuchreJack
sofanthiel
CrystalizedMire
Webadict is definitely scum to you

Not bad, but Tric isn't even on the list. He's not neutral, he's null. Hasn't participated enough at all to even try to read.

Oh, and at this point sofanthiel has lost some of my trust, and sits below Crystalizedmire.

[EuchreJack]

CrystalizedMire, I want Tric back immediately.

[Crystalizedmire]

Euchre Jack: Nqt is still voting fallacy and they were the secobd to do so. Fallacy beong town doesnt mean their read on nqt is correct.

[sofanthiel]

So, if two of the players above are scum, then they win on Night 2.

Wait, I don't follow...  How does the above prove that Fallacy is one alignment or another?  Doesn't it just display that this is our last proper chance to eliminate a scum player?

[Crystalizedmire]

CrystalizedMire, I want Tric back immediately.

My role doesnt say banished players are returned so tricmagic would probably be banished indefinetly.

[Imp]

CrystalizedMire, I want Tric back immediately.

Note that it's possible TM is the other scum, in which case them coming back, even if that means kill CM, is likely a scum priority.  I kinda like that we don't know how to get TM back, because this is likely useful for scum to know.

Considering that, do we still want to demand TM back asap?

[EuchreJack]

Town top, Scum bottom.
Most town: NQT
Imp
EuchreJack
CrystalizedMire
sofanthiel
Webadict is definitely scum to you

Not bad, but Tric isn't even on the list. He's not neutral, he's null. Hasn't participated enough at all to even try to read.

Oh, and at this point sofanthiel has lost some of my trust, and sits below Crystalizedmire.

Corrections made.

[EuchreJack]

So, if two of the players above are scum, then they win on Night 2.

Wait, I don't follow...  How does the above prove that Fallacy is one alignment or another?  Doesn't it just display that this is our last proper chance to eliminate a scum player?

When did you figure that out?

[webadict]

I'd consider you a jester, but you haven't hammered yourself.

It's very tempting, trust me! But the longer I last before dying, the more information is generated. Hammering myself would be anti-town.

But if you are totally, one hundred percent confident, absolutely and totally, that I am not town, and you say so to my face, I'll do it. Just for you.

Personally, if I did say that, it'd be because I think something is weird with the execution, and I want more data points, not because I'm 100% convinced, but you being scum is the most likely choice right now.  The other choice is possibly a Crystal/Tric team, and the third choice is NQT.  It's also possible we have two soloscum, but I think it'd be you plus Tric in that case.

[FallacyofUrist]

I still don't understand your focus on a player who isn't even here.