Egan_BW:
Hey so...
attendance is mandatory ... "You must state your Class to proceed."
You claim we can't not be there. But what if we don't choose to proceed.
And what happens to you if we won't play that game with you?
I wonder if
this has a lot to do with this.
Yes, and Gate of Dreams when?
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I don't know anything about Egan_BW's whatever. Yet.
As is, it looks fun, distracting, and I have no idea how participation or non-participation affects others or empowers you.
But as much as this vision of Egan_BW's has disturbed my dreams, I feel a story spin. I recall the Sanctum Sanctorum, to Doctor Strange, concerned about the impending threat posed by Thanos. There and then he used the Eye of Agamotto to explore over 14 million possible futures, searching for the one path to victory. That Eye also grants an unstable edge in combat, allows travel and dispels disguises and illusions, and has been called "one of the most powerful mystic conduits on this physical plane." Though Agamotto is also said to be aware of its every use and can view those uses again later.
Might this be how we can know who watches the watchers?
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Crystalizedmire:
It seems like pirates has a convert role and are most likely cults:
This could be, but if so they really revealed a lot early. Stuff that probably didn't help their actual wincons, if the people revealing it didn't either 1) have to and 2) were talking about themself and not trying to set up for other stuff. So I hugely wonder about why and how we can find out. Since in my dreams Pirates were red, I do think they are scum and must die, converters or any other kind of scum.
I do wonder if we know there is conversion or if we guess and run with guesses. I also know I do not not not want to be converted myself.
I can't believe I genuinely thought that maximum spin was being genuine when he said that they believe that imp is mafia. Oh well, I guess claiming protector and miller is still a little suspicious
Max is known to make wild early D1 statements, including direct lies, as town or scum. That said, it's very, very early in the game to believe anyone is scum, no? Curious if you'll share your thoughts about this. That said, it's no biggie, I'm just surprised.
EuchreJack:
Also: Who wants to be a pirate?
Might be a subtle way to say 'EuchreJack is pirate-ally, please connect with EuchreJack, allies'.
At the time EuchreJack mentioned it, was the first mention of pirates in play.
hector13:
I am operating under the assumption there are at least four members of the mafia, given there are usually two in a nine-player game.
What are your thoughts about if there may be more than one scum team, and if you think that could be, what do you think of the likely scum team numbers?
do you have reason to believe Esteemed EuchreJack is something we need to worry about?
No. Part of my posts are my reads to that point of play. I don't expect I can keep up with the whole game as a whole. I'll take it by parts, measured (if that works for me) by what happens in between my various posts, with my posts full of what I see fit to mention for myself and others. That also helps me notice what jumps out at me later in rereads, a reminder of my thinking at the time.
I answer no specifically to 'Do I have reason'. I'm leery because I had Pirates mentioned in my DM and EuchreJack mentioned them first of us all. Also how he discussed them and his talk of what happens when he dies and what he claims about that item. It has my attention, I don't have facts about it beyond what I initially said.
I note that Max posted since I asked but didn't answer my question about what flavor Miller.
Lenglon:
Imp: it's just math.
Ahh, the longer explanation works for how I think, thank you. Previous note discardable.
What advantage do you see in participating in Egan_BW's apparent sidegame?
Elephant Parade:
They day-inspect one of the claimed millers, Webadict strips the miller's role, someone night-inspects the miller. A Mafia -> Town result means they're definitely town. But having thought about it a little more, it probably wouldn't be worth it, especially since the night inspect would still be vulnerable to framing and redirects.
Thank you. My thoughts on that complex path match your second thoughts. Also, there's possibly more ideal uses for Webadict's stated ability. Why'd you call that 'funny' instead of useful or whatever? And if we did have a day inspect, any other ideas how it might be better used, since you've thought some now?
In that link you also go to great effort to make sure people don't try to kill you. I'm uncertain on the benefits of that since if it causes such issue for your enemies, why not risk having them kill you and causing them those issues? Another may have even greater benefit to the town at large than you, why risk losing them and causing no problems for your enemies, when your hostile loss from the game could?
Imp: Why did you decide to roleclaim? Is it just to ask for protection and request for the scum to leave you alive?
As to that, yuck. I mentioned
I have weirdness with words this game and need clarification from Fallacy before I post much.
Well, I should have waited for that clarification. I thought I worked around it, I was absolutely blindsided. I thought roles/abilties/all that are private. Whoops, no. Confirmation revealed that any then-existing scum got told some of my PM, word for word. Since I didn't know that before I made that first post, I removed a lot of choices from myself. Because I know what scum were told and it basically draws a treasure map just doesn't say who to kill, but sure does say kill that person if you can.
And I said enough in that first post from what the 'Well, I thought this was just my private info to know, word for word' that if I were scum and read my first post - well chances were huge that scum knew I was that person and nobody else knew anything about it.
I thought about this and picked the path I picked from the remaining choices I saw possible to do. How else to try and learn who watches the watchers?
I should point out, I can recruit 3 pirates at end of Day 1, and no more.
EuchreJack omg. Okay, Pirates are scum. They are red. They need to die for town to win. I'd vote you myself but maybe you're jester (I don't know if there are jester).
Why are you telling us this?
Webadict, if you're taking votes for that power use, I am considering nominating EuchreJack, mindful that this may be a bad idea.
We should, based on what I have been told, treat that as equivalent to EuchreJack offering to nominate folks into the mafia team - it's just the other scumteam, if that is what red means. Based on the wording of my PM, it is also possible that there are scum teams that do not yet exist, or there may be more than 2.