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Author Topic: Nomic game of Nomic  (Read 1988 times)

Egan_BW

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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2023, 10:01:30 pm »

New Rule: Rules must be Ratified by three players that are not the player that suggested the rule.

A player can vote against a rule, canceling out a vote in favor of ratification.

Votes are communicated by +1 and -1 attached to a quote of the suggested rule.
Invalid, because "players can add rules" is immutable and this would be a negation or modification of said rule.

Also, the rules do not state that players can declare rules invalid, so does your objection have any weight?
No, it's just pointing out a fact.
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2023, 12:14:22 am »

Nomic needs a voting system to work, as Elephant just showed Crystal ;)
Please be more specific of how this system would work

There's many ways you can do it, this website has the original rules and links to variants.
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2023, 01:03:31 am »

If Elephant Parade already won the game is there any point in adding more rules?
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2023, 02:27:30 am »

New Rule: Rules must be Ratified by three players that are not the player that suggested the rule.

A player can vote against a rule, canceling out a vote in favor of ratification.

Votes are communicated by +1 and -1 attached to a quote of the suggested rule.

Interpretation: The definition of ratification, according to google, is to "sign or give formal consent to (a treaty, contract, or agreement), making it officially valid."

Thus, players can add rules, per the immutable rule in the OP, but those rules are invalid prior to ratification and therefore have no effect.
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2023, 02:29:51 am »

'Ratified' is capitalized here, implying that it has a different meaning, given that it has a proper title.
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2023, 02:37:29 am »

If Elephant Parade already won the game is there any point in adding more rules?
Yes there is.
New rule: the winner of this game will hand out cake and a fanta to everyone else who posts in this thread.
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2023, 02:43:38 am »

New rule: the winner of this game will hand out cake and a fanta to everyone else who posts in this thread.
+1
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2023, 03:24:25 am »

New rule: the winner of this game will hand out cake and a fanta to everyone else who posts in this thread.
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certainly incentives to support this rule
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2023, 04:23:38 am »

New rule: the winner of this game will hand out cake and a fanta to everyone else who posts in this thread.
+1
+1
certainly incentives to support this rule
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2023, 04:43:08 am »

What the hell guys? I doze off for a couple o' hours and come back to this? This is why we can't have nice things.
New rule: the winner of this game will hand out cake and a fanta to everyone else who posts in this thread.
+1
+1
certainly incentives to support this rule
+1
Welp, Elephant Parade, time to start handing out the cake. Miss me with the fanta though. Don't like soft drinks. :P

New Rule: Players can remove rules. Removing a rule counts as changing it.
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2023, 06:34:35 am »

Hm. I can't help but notice that it's possible to change rules without any votes at all. Including rules that have already been ratified. As a responsible citizen, it is my duty to patch this loophole.

I'll change this rule:

New Rule: Rules must be Ratified by three players that are not the player that suggested the rule.

A player can vote against a rule, canceling out a vote in favor of ratification.

Votes are communicated by +1 and -1 attached to a quote of the suggested rule.

to:

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Rules must be ratified by three players that are not the player that suggested the rule.
Similarly, rule changes must be ratified by three players other than the one who suggested the change. Whisperling may spend two points to ignore this restriction.

Until they have been ratified, rules or rule changes are invalid and have no effects.


A player can vote against a rule or rule change, canceling out a vote in favor of ratification.

This rule cannot be changed, removed, or overridden.

Current point total: 1
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2023, 04:04:46 pm »

Updating the rules chart... Done!
Also New rule: Rules don't count until Crystalizedmire updates the rules chart (you guys can vote for and against this rule)
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2023, 04:13:42 pm »

Elephant Parade(winner): 1 point
S1lentWanderer: 1 point
Quarque: 1 point
Whisperling: 1 point
Note: Points do nothing currently(except for Whisperling)
« Last Edit: November 10, 2023, 04:30:56 pm by Crystalizedmire »
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2023, 04:48:20 pm »

Congratulations with your brilliant win, Elephant Parade. Well played.
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Re: Nomic game of Nomic
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2023, 04:52:00 pm »

You guys can still play regardless of the presence of a winner or not.
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