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Voting closed: May 27, 2023, 04:40:22 am

[Horizon]

Nul

[Quarque]

Thanks.

Tip, you need to mention in the order that you bring the wolf crystal to B2.
I'd send more than two armies; at least 4, maybe more. That big G is a giant and it counts for three armies. The wolves will join you, but if the giant survives the first round and kills one wolf, the other wolves flee and that would trigger the rest of your units to retreat.

Also don't forget to send some scouts.

[a1s]

So are we taking Owain down or what? I feel like people with 2x castles should be expected to provide 2x forces.
(It is worth noting that a cat will destroy the village, but compared to the destruction of Owain this is a small loss)

[Criptfeind]

I feel like people with 2x castles should be expected to provide 2x forces.

I agree.

So are we taking Owain down or what?

Seems like not this turn. My understanding is that Quarque and Kashyyk want to capture another castle/expand more first. Which is fair enough, it'll be a nice boost of power to deal with him. It's a bit of a gamble, because once he rolls k12 it becomes tremendously more expensive to take him down. But until that happens, it's not too bad of a situation and an extra castle would help.

[Quarque]

It is lucky that we have a week to figure this mess out.

(It is worth noting that a cat will destroy the village, but compared to the destruction of Owain this is a small loss)

I think I read somewhere that a cat only transforms the terrain type, but does not destroy features like villages / mines.

Seems like not this turn. My understanding is that Quarque and Kashyyk want to capture another castle/expand more first. Which is fair enough, it'll be a nice boost of power to deal with him. It's a bit of a gamble, because once he rolls k12 it becomes tremendously more expensive to take him down. But until that happens, it's not too bad of a situation and an extra castle would help.

The K12 risk is a good point. If he attacks the village at M11, same problem. And then there is the possibility that he might attack a village that is next to a new reprisal.

It is a bit frustrating for me to have to delay the Selkie Court after preparing for multiple turns, but I'm willing to give Owain priority, under one condition. I want us to take him out in one go. All of us will gain +29% reprisal. That is bad enough, but if we have to attack him again next turn and face a high reprisal rate for multiple turns, that would be awful.

By my calculations we need about 70 units, including a cat, to have a very high certainty (roughly around the 95% range) to do that.

I feel like people with 2x castles should be expected to provide 2x forces.

Reasonable. If the people with 1 castle send 10 units each and the people with 2 castles send 20, we're at 70 total. (Horizon can't send units yet because he doesn't border the rest of us.)

I would be down.

[notquitethere]

(It is worth noting that a cat will destroy the village, but compared to the destruction of Owain this is a small loss)

I think I read somewhere that a cat only transforms the terrain type, but does not destroy features like villages / mines.

You're right, but a village is a terrain type not a feature. That's why players can stick a fort on their village.

[a1s]

It is lucky that we have a week to figure this mess out.

Wait, what? Did NQT mention this in another thread, or did I finally lose the ability to read?

I think I read somewhere that a cat only transforms the terrain type, but does not destroy features like villages / mines.

Mines and forts, but not villages or forests:

TURN 10 REPORT

Spoiler: Marchioness Aywen Ayes - The Oak and Ash (click to show/hide)

March 1 on N10: The village is undefended and soon re-absorbed back into the county.

march 13 and a bog cat on N11. (Joined by 12 armies from Marquess Wright, 5 armies from Marquess Vulk, with the Last Femur):

The boar, boar and boar attack first (1, 7, 7, 2, 2 and 7), killing three of your armies. The last femur raises one skeleton warrior!

Your armies attack (with one bog cat) (with one skeleton) (4, 4, 3, 7, 4, 2, 8, 4, 8, 5, 1, 4, 4, 7, 1, 8, 8, 1, 8, 3, 3, 4, 4, 2, 6, 1, 6, 4 and , All skeletal companions of the enemy bone reckoners crumble.
defeating ten of the enemies (skeletal warrior, bone reckoner, skeletal warrior, giant (part), bone reckoner, giant (part), skeletal warrior, bone reckoner, boar and boar).
The Last Femur fails to raise anyone.

The enemy attacks back (7, 5, 3, 3, 6, 5, 5 and 5), killing two of your armies. The Last Femur fails to raise anyone.

Your armies attack (with one bog cat) (with one skeleton) (4, 2, 7, 8, 8, 6, 4, 6, 6, 8, 1, 8, 1, 1, 5, 3, 1, 3, 5, 3, 8, 8, 2, 2, 7, 7 and , defeating eight of the enemies (boar, wolf and giant (part)).
The last femur raises one skeleton warrior!
All enemies are defeated and the village is absorbed into your county.
 From giant clubs, you gain one wood.
 Your total losses: five (3 from Ayes, 1 from Wright, 1 from Vulk)

as you can see my village became a swamp, but my fort did not.

[Quarque]

It was easy to miss, but see here:

I'm going on another holiday on Wednesday, for a week this time. I'll have a laptop but I'll probably have better things to be doing with my time, so you'll all have a little break then. [snip]

[Criptfeind]

It is a bit frustrating for me to have to delay the Selkie Court after preparing for multiple turns

This is totally understandable, and I am willing to wait, I do think it's riskier to wait, but not unduly so.

If the people with 1 castle send 10 units each and the people with 2 castles send 20, we're at 70 total. (Horizon can't send units yet because he doesn't border the rest of us.)

I would be down.

I'm totally down for sending 20 dudes. I'll throw in my cat as well, if people are up for it.

[Horizon]

Orders amended. Sending more armies.

[Horizon]

Operation exterminate giant hopefully will be a success

[Horizon]

Nul

[notquitethere]

I've got major jet lag and am waking at 5am every day, so if players do get their act together and post their turns I will almost certainly have time to process it. Half of you have got tentative orders down. Let's make the other half happen.

[Kashyyk]

I'm happy to smack Owain about, but I've also promised to help with the Selkie Court.

 Unless we do 31 hits in the first round (after biting the First Strike with +1 from the Squelsh), then Owain and his army will retreat. I don't mind that, as we'll have crippled his forces, but worth noting.

[Criptfeind]

Yeah, sorry, I'm still a bit confused about if we're fighting Owain, it seemed like a no at first, but then now seems like it might be a yes? And I'm afraid of hammering in a incorrect order on that front, I was planning on waiting until the 36 hour mark then just inputting an alternative turn, but I can start working on an alternative turn now

I'm happy to smack Owain about, but I've also promised to help with the Selkie Court.

 Unless we do 31 hits in the first round (after biting the First Strike with +1 from the Squelsh), then Owain and his army will retreat. I don't mind that, as we'll have crippled his forces, but worth noting.

Yeah, that's why we're trying to pull in 70+ units, to one shot him. If I put in 20, and you put in 20, then we get ten each from Quarque, a1s, and VermilionSkies, we'll be at that 70 number, and should crunch him up good. Certainly if Quarque is okay putting off the Selkies for a turn that'd be okay with you?

It seems like everyone is close to the same page here, especially if we can get a confirmation if vermilionskies would be interested in this.

Although vermilionskies might not be 100% necessary, if, for instance, I put in 26, and then Kashyyk did 22, and Quarque and a1s put in 12, that'd pretty much get us there, so we don't need skies confirmation.