Too throw in my totally unasked for two cents here, sorta what my philosophy is in this argument, pointed at jipehog;
Principles don't matter if they don't serve the core of your belief because they are ultimately fake anyway.
The only thing that is "Good" is action that results in what you want, and the only thing that is "Bad" is action that results in what you don't want.
So when you essentially say "Hypocrisy is bad", I would say that no, bad actions are bad and good actions are good. The class of action that they are doesn't actually matter. To give a concrete example. Far right hatred leads, fairly overtly, into things that I consider bad. Censoring them can stop that bad thing from happening, and thus is good. Far right wing spaces censoring people also (somewhat less overtly) leads into things I would consider bad, therefor that censorship is bad.
There's no principle of "censorship is bad". Simply the question of what it leads too.
Thus, when you try to simply draw equivalencies in these matters on simply a philosophical standpoint, it's simply a false equivalency from my perspective since it doesn't matter if by some principle the actions are the same, only the results of the actions matter, and so your argument falls flat. To me at least of course
If you want to try to make a prediction that ultimately X action will lead to a bad result, that's a much more persuasive argument. It's more useful but also way way way more complicated to actually see the future then it is to come up with some anti-hypocrisy principle and then try to critique others for breaking it. History is extremely complex and the future is even more so, the argument of a slippery slope in discourse and the ability for different sides to reconcile is obvious, but somewhat unpersuasive, to me at least. I'd invite you to make a more complete argument for it if you want, since you obvious seem to believe it or are at least espousing the starts of it here.
You have censored enough people in your Ukraine threads, to the extent you could, or cheered on them being booted. You're no free speech absolutist - may Chomsky forgive you.
...like usual, Il Palazzo has a good point.
Don't listen to him Jack! I believe you're just as much a free speech absolutist as Musk is! And probably for the same reason as well.
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