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[webadict]

How fucking bizarre that I know that NQT is lying with information that I know he has because we're Coworkers.

NQT, you literally know that's how False works because that's exactly how False was explained IN OUR COWORKER CHAT.

@TricMagic, would False show up as a duplicate of another role?

[webadict]

Also, TricMagic, which roles are explicitly an alignment?

[notquitethere]

Hold up, I might have posted this morning with a fuzzy recollection. OK unvote, it looks like I totally misread Tric's reply in our co-worker chat (sent late night NQT-time) and that is confirmed to be how it works.

I should always re-read things in the morning... this is like a lesser version of that robot pirate catgirl misreading incident all over again. I just get into a manic posting frenzy sometimes and need to slow my roll.

Web's right, we're co-workers. That comes from my role. I'm also the poisoner and the governor, so I can't be the jester or King. Your move Fluffe.

[Maximum Spin]

Max on Zemaj, getting rid of fruit festival (why? because it's annoying? But it'll stop the N1 kill, so why does Max want to get rid?)

Wait, it works on kills?

Tric: Does it work on kills?

Also, NQT, web: At the very least, that's not how False normally works. A False role according to the wiki Tric's using just doesn't do anything, it doesn't pretend to be a different role.
never mind, I guess? posting anyway.

[notquitethere]

Max on Zemaj, getting rid of fruit festival (why? because it's annoying? But it'll stop the N1 kill, so why does Max want to get rid?)

Wait, it works on kills?

I assume so! Here's what mafia wiki says:

Fruit Festival is a role that allows you to replace all actions that night with a Fruit Vendor action. An action with multiple targets will each turn into their own Fruit Vendor action.

I'm guessing it's one-shot.If someone has the Strong role due to Jim strengthening them, they would still act, but it probably wouldn't line up to make anyone strong before N1, unless Jim's action is a day power.

Also, NQT, web: At the very least, that's not how False normally works. A False role according to the wiki Tric's using just doesn't do anything, it doesn't pretend to be a different role.
never mind, I guess? posting anyway.

Yeah that's why I confused myself. But Web's right, Tric does appear to say otherwise in our chat.

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notquitethere: Poisoner Governor Coworker
zemaj: Arsonist Fruitfucker* False?
FallacyofUrist: Enchantress (Hidden) ?
Maximum Spin: Blocked Busdriver Postrestricted
ToonyMan: Electrified Tree Townie
webadict: Fruitfucker* Dorkcreature Coworker?
Fluffe9911: ? ? ?
Jim Groovester: will always be a Strong Lazy Virgin
* contested?

Unclaimed roles:
Parrot
Conduit
Janitor
King
Antisocial
Unjester
(False and Hidden not explicitly claimed but assumed)

Updated table. Better get talking, Fluffe9911

[notquitethere]

Max, I should note it seems from our flavour that the co-worker is coming from my role. Web is most likely False + Something masquerading as Fruit + Dark Creature or something masquerading as dark creature.

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Zemak

I just read an interesting article about the stabilization in rates of food-allergy occurence, if that helps any.

Great stuff! That is interesting, unvote. Especially the data about allergy reactions being higher among higher educated parents. I remember reading that peanut allergies are way less common in Israel where children are much more likely to be exposed to them at a young age.

I oppose a mass-claim on D1... if I wanted to break a game, I'd play more DF, not mafia on the B12 forums.

Pretty sure any setup should be balanced around not being broken by a mass claim; ultimately the main guard against the game becoming boring is for players to not make it boring. I think collectively solving the power interactions helps turn it from a random stuff-happens, to a big puzzle. It doesn't make it unfair for scum, who still have some wiggle room, as only King for definite (and maybe Dark Creature) are confirmed scum. The main argument against not mass claiming is for punchy town roles who have some secret weapon that they want to hold back on using.

@notquiethere claim and ill claim as well.

Can't say fairer than that. I'll see what a few more players do. But to make it fair, I've breadcrumbed my role somewhere.

Starting each paragraph with G, then P then C, to indicate the three roles Governor, Poisoner, Co-Worker

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Max, I should note it seems from our flavour that the co-worker is coming from my role. Web is most likely False + Something masquerading as Fruit + Dark Creature or something masquerading as dark creature.

Yeah, I suspected this, since it seemed most likely that all roles are used. Still, I included it as a possibility for completeness. I guess I should have written that he could also be "False?", though.

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Zemak

I just read an interesting article about the stabilization in rates of food-allergy occurence, if that helps any.

Great stuff! That is interesting, unvote. Especially the data about allergy reactions being higher among higher educated parents. I remember reading that peanut allergies are way less common in Israel where children are much more likely to be exposed to them at a young age.

I oppose a mass-claim on D1... if I wanted to break a game, I'd play more DF, not mafia on the B12 forums.

Pretty sure any setup should be balanced around not being broken by a mass claim; ultimately the main guard against the game becoming boring is for players to not make it boring. I think collectively solving the power interactions helps turn it from a random stuff-happens, to a big puzzle. It doesn't make it unfair for scum, who still have some wiggle room, as only King for definite (and maybe Dark Creature) are confirmed scum. The main argument against not mass claiming is for punchy town roles who have some secret weapon that they want to hold back on using.

@notquiethere claim and ill claim as well.

Can't say fairer than that. I'll see what a few more players do. But to make it fair, I've breadcrumbed my role somewhere.

Starting each paragraph with G, then P then C, to indicate the three roles Governor, Poisoner, Co-Worker

I don't really get the purpose of this action. It only very tenuously precommits you to the claim. You could easily have prepared lots of fakeclaims and hidden them in different ways — this one would even have worked equally well for Parrot, Post Restriction, Creature, and Conduit if you wanted to be one of them.
You could equally have used the first paragraph's T and E, or the last paragraph's B, or...

Anyway, Table Amendment:
zemaj: Arsonist Fruitfucker? ?
webadict: Dorkcreature Fruitfucker? ?

But with the understanding that you, knowing web's role, think he's the False one. Do you have any information you can give to help back that up?
This leaves, of course, Fluffe and Fallacy as the most likely Unjesters, with the conceivable possibility that zemaj is.

I reasonably suspect webadict and notquitethere are the scumteam.

[Fluffe9911]

Fluffe, do you have 1, 2, or 3 known roles?

3

[Fluffe9911]

Ok read through all the posts now im the Mysterious (Conduit) Janitor Parrot anyway I gotta do school stuff so ill be activish in like a couple of hours

[TricMagic]

How fucking bizarre that I know that NQT is lying with information that I know he has because we're Coworkers.

NQT, you literally know that's how False works because that's exactly how False was explained IN OUR COWORKER CHAT.

@TricMagic, would False show up as a duplicate of another role?

Also, TricMagic, which roles are explicitly an alignment?

False can appear as another role, yes. Or it could be 0% on a known role. RNG.
No Roles are alignment indicative. It is entirely possible to have a Townie Antisocial that wins town the game if night-killed. RNG.

[Maximum Spin]

Ok read through all the posts now im the Mysterious (Conduit) Janitor Parrot anyway I gotta do school stuff so ill be activish in like a couple of hours

I don't think you can be.
Nobody has two role slots outstanding. If Fallacy is the Antisocial Unjester, who's Hidden? If Zemaj is and lying about being fruity, who's False? Presumably notquitethere knows webadict isn't lying about his role, and presumably webadict knows notquitethere isn't lying about his. All the other claims were made early enough and fit together, so I think it's most likely you just picked those roles off my list.

No Roles are alignment indicative. It is entirely possible to have a Townie Antisocial that wins town the game if night-killed. RNG.

So now you tell us the unjester isn't necessarily 3p?... well, we narrowed it down anyway, so too late for that.

[Fluffe9911]

I don't think you can be.
Nobody has two role slots outstanding. If Fallacy is the Antisocial Unjester, who's Hidden? If Zemaj is and lying about being fruity, who's False? Presumably notquitethere knows webadict isn't lying about his role, and presumably webadict knows notquitethere isn't lying about his. All the other claims were made early enough and fit together, so I think it's most likely you just picked those roles off my list.

Janitor is acting more of a modifier than a proper role if that helps your confusion any.

[Fluffe9911]

Also be aware if someone else claimed one of my roles I would of already said something about it.