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Author Topic: Emotional Responses to War in Ukraine - Trollbait 2.0  (Read 103139 times)

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Re: Emotional Responses to War in Ukraine - Trollbait 2.0
« Reply #1695 on: January 11, 2024, 11:22:26 pm »

I saw a news headline about some people in Moscow not having heat right now, but what's actually happening?  I know Ukraine has hit some stuff in Russia, but they haven't caused any significant damage to Russian infrastructure have they?

There is also using any excuse to siphon money. If a Mayor's city is hit with a Ukrainian drone, they can claim that Ukraine destroyed 20% of the fuel generators, then sell the oil they're not using to line their own pockets.  Even if the missile only destroyed an abandoned barn next to the fuel generators....

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« Reply #1697 on: January 12, 2024, 02:08:49 pm »

10% reduction.

Wooooooow.

Are Western governments actually going after the companies that are subverting the sanctions? I can't recall ever seeing anyone getting punished for it, despite everyone knowing it's going on.

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The researchers called on Western lawmakers to step up restrictions on countries acting as third-party sellers, and to encourage the private sector to regulate itself better to comply with sanctions.

Oh yeah, self-regulation in the private sector, well known for working.
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« Reply #1698 on: January 12, 2024, 02:24:48 pm »

To be fair, 70% of the US components are bought by China and sold to Russia.

But yes, US industry isn't gonna cut it's profits just to help .. anyone really.

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« Reply #1699 on: January 12, 2024, 03:35:10 pm »

Read today how Russians are queueing* Soviet-style for eggs and chicken meat.  Clown-King Putin says there is no shortage but rather demand has gone up because Russians are better off.  Yeah right, haha haha...

* Went for the longer form since the queues are looonnnggg.
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« Reply #1700 on: January 12, 2024, 03:41:40 pm »

The implication there that they’d have enough at home and thus not need queue…
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« Reply #1701 on: January 12, 2024, 11:21:52 pm »

Oh no... it is definitely that Russians are more wealthy so they want twice as many eggs and chicken meat, so the actual problem is the slow-to-respond chicken and egg industries.
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« Reply #1702 on: January 12, 2024, 11:28:06 pm »

Not to mention the complete gridlock of Russian poultry industry because no one dares to decide what to send first, the chicken or the egg
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« Reply #1703 on: January 13, 2024, 04:28:31 am »

It feels like Putin is trying really hard to become Stalin, hopefully someone does something about him before he's able to enact his own version of The Great Purge.
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« Reply #1704 on: January 13, 2024, 11:59:27 am »

Wow, some Russian citizens burned down a massive warehouse in St. Petersburg. Sounds like some of the population is indeed getting in a mood to do something.  Sounds like it was just consumer goods though... too bad it wasn't a military warehouse.
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« Reply #1705 on: January 13, 2024, 12:15:33 pm »

Wow, some Russian citizens burned down a massive warehouse in St. Petersburg. Sounds like some of the population is indeed getting in a mood to do something.  Sounds like it was just consumer goods though... too bad it wasn't a military warehouse.
I wonder if it had anything to do with Russian police raiding warehouses to search for draft dodgers to nab

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« Reply #1706 on: January 13, 2024, 03:19:10 pm »

Wow, some Russian citizens burned down a massive warehouse in St. Petersburg. Sounds like some of the population is indeed getting in a mood to do something.  Sounds like it was just consumer goods though... too bad it wasn't a military warehouse.

 As far as I know, it is merely a version of ho the fire started. Also, the fire happened in a warehouse of Russian "Amazon" that treats its workers far worse than the real Amazon (yes, it is possible) so it may be revenge not against the government but against the company
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« Reply #1707 on: January 13, 2024, 08:32:14 pm »

If it is anti-government partisans, I'm disappointed in the choice of target tbh. This does nothing to hurt the war effort, all it does is inconvenience people and destroy thousands of items for no good reason.
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« Reply #1708 on: January 13, 2024, 10:33:58 pm »

If it is anti-government partisans, I'm disappointed in the choice of target tbh. This does nothing to hurt the war effort, all it does is inconvenience people and destroy thousands of items for no good reason.
Oh, I would not be so quick to discount the harm that destroying a commercial warehouse could do to the war effort.

1) The military needs consumer goods also.
2) The military probably subcontracts its logistical consumer goods needs to civilian organizations.
3) Even if this does no harm to the military, anything that pisses off the loyal citizens will help the war effort.

Without a news article (why is there no news article?!), I would still say this is a decent anti-government attack. Of course, maybe it was the Russian government itself.

"Russian officials, cited by state news agency TASS, said Wildberries had obtained permission to construct the warehouse, but not to operate it."
Nevermind, it was the Russian government. They probably figured that if they burned down the warehouse, they could draft the surviving employees.

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« Reply #1709 on: January 14, 2024, 12:24:14 am »

Eh. Fair enough. I'd still have picked something different and/or more directly military.
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