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[Loud Whispers]

It doesn't even need to be true or false to be of immense benefit to Ukraine. The fact that the immediate response isn't "of course that's bullshit" but is instead "hmmmmmm" after months of mercenaries and defence ministry stooges accusing the other of leaking their positions to Ukrainian artillery means that even if no one has ever broken ranks, the ranks are already broken by mistrust and paranoia

[martinuzz]

Belarussian president Loekasjenko admitted that the Russian aircraft and helicopters were indeed shot down were accidentally shot down by Belarus.

EDIT: I read it wrong, the fact that he admitted it was an accident, Russia still denies that any aircraft were shot down.

[EuchreJack]

Belarussian president Loekasjenko admitted that the Russian aircraft and helicopters were "accidentally shot down" by Belarus. 

Fixed that for you!

...uh, could we get back to linking things?

[Il Palazzo]

What, Lukashenko has got better to be able to make such pronouncements?

[Strongpoint]

What, Lukashenko has got better to be able to make such pronouncements?

He appeared in public today and he looks and sounds... not healthy.

But I am not sure that his death would be beneficial, it may accelerate the annexation of Belarus by Russia

[jipehog]

Belarussian president Loekasjenko admitted that the Russian aircraft and helicopters were indeed shot down

Interesting. Quick google to double check that also suggest that:

The respected Russian news outlet Kommersant reported on Saturday that a Russian raiding party comprising an Su-34 fighter-bomber, an Su-35 fighter and two Mi-8 helicopters had been shot down in an ambush near Klintsy in Russia's Bryansk region.

It said they had been due to attack targets in the Chernihiv region of Ukraine, directly over the border.

So I assume we are talking about These Mi-8:

The Mil Mi-8MTPR-1 Hip-H is a stand-off jamming system that remains outside the range of enemy air defence weapons to grant effective screening for the attacking tactical aircraft or combat helicopter packages as they are penetrating the enemy air defence system

Which gives credence to long range AA. I heard a rumor that it was another newly imported advanced weapon system.

[Strongpoint]

6 hypersuperubersonic Russian missiles were shot down over Kyiv this night. At least it is what Ukrainian Armed Forces claim

[Cathar]

But I am not sure that his death would be beneficial, it may accelerate the annexation of Belarus by Russia

More realistically, Luka refused to engage his army in the Ukrainian conflict, despite Russian very untactful insistance.
If he dies, his next in line may not have the same strengh of will and may take his orders directly from the Kremlin.

In the meanwhile, Bakhmut counter siege is now in full swing and is looking good for the AFU

[Ganondworf]

6 hypersuperubersonic Russian missiles were shot down over Kyiv this night. At least it is what Ukrainian Armed Forces claim

This is huge, if true. The first one could have been just a lucky break, but 6 out of 6 shot down would be great. Not so superuber as everybody feared.

[ChairmanPoo]

With Patriot missiles, of all things. I'm sure they've gotten updates over the years but its still 30 year old tech at its base

[Lord Shonus]

The upgrades are such that it would probably be more accurate to rename the thing at this point. The modern version doesn't have that much resemblance to the Desert Storm-era system other than the name.

[jipehog]

The headline is that '18 out 18 Russian missiles were shot down in Ukraine this night', including: 6 Kinzhal missiles, 9 Kalibr missiles and 3 ballistic missiles total.

That seem a bit too good to be true. Also there is a video claimed to be of said patriot system, showing it expanded its whole magazine (over 15 launches that I counted) and then couple of minutes later it look like it was hit. The Russian headlines suggest it was coordinated attack on the Patriot system and that it was destroyed.

[EuchreJack]

Hm, we'll just have to see if any more hypers get intercepted or through. The lack of boasting from Russia about the hypers would be confirmation enough.

[Ganondworf]

The headline is that '18 out 18 Russian missiles were shot down in Ukraine this night', including: 6 Kinzhal missiles, 9 Kalibr missiles and 3 ballistic missiles total.

That seem a bit too good to be true. Also there is a video claimed to be of said patriot system, showing it expanded its whole magazine (over 15 launches that I counted) and then couple of minutes later it look like it was hit. The Russian headlines suggest it was coordinated attack on the Patriot system and that it was destroyed.

I read about the one possibly destroyed Patriot system only now. I guess it comes down to if Russia can sustain firing that many missiles to destroy one AA system. Or maybe the Kinshals were targeted at one Patriot system each, and only a single one hit successfully. But I guess we won't really know one way or the other for certain. I do hope the Kinshals are not as uber as Russia claimed.

[jipehog]

There are some propaganda games, yesterday Russia have claimed it took down 6 storm shadow missiles and now claims it destroyed the patriot system, which they use to argue that they can handle sophisticated Western weapons in Ukraine.

Here is a video (no idea if authentic, not the type of account i would trust) https://twitter.com/RadarFennec/status/1658287607938162690

The count of launches is closer to 30, spread between several locations (how many interceptors patriot launcher can hold 8? 16?) at the site and what looks like one hit. If the patriot system was targeted it make sense they expanded its arsenal and if the list of Russian missile downed is correct that is a good exchange.