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[ToonyMan]

Who cares.

A 9 player lylo shouldn't have happened in the first place.

Jack being obviously scum isn't impressive

Tric not doing anything SK to hide the fact he is SK isn't impressive

I'm just gonna high five Jim and call it a day. I think this is the first game we actually played power town together since Webadict wasn't able to fill this role.

Sorry NQT.

EDIT:

Oh, and Max shouldn't have died.

Great

[hector13]

I would disagree with you on the semantics of Tric’s ability; “and” is used to join to separate sentences together so its presence doesn’t mean that Tric has to survive in order for it to trigger an On Fire, but I think I made clear my feelings on Final Countdown heh.

[Roden]

Everyone was playing 3D chess but it turned out the game was 4D the entire time.

The course of history drastically changes if Tric actually got voted out Day 1 though. I'm not sure what mask I would get from him but I think this might've turned into a mafia win regardless. Unless his mask made me a SK, maybe.

[TolyK]

What

Well GG Nakeen in any case.

[TolyK]

Honestly I liked my role flavor, but I really feel there wasn't much of a choice in picking a relevant role to become

TolyK:

You don't technically exist. The Most Elder sees you anyways, nods, and offers you a selection of homunculi to choose from. It seems you'll be joining in as a Town dragon.

“Hey Fallacy, Could You Give Me A Role That Technically Isn’t In The Game, But Where I Can Pretend I’m Playing?” (town):
(Auto) Sure Thing: This role is not in the game space. In spite of its nonexistence, you still possess access to its abilities. Since otherwise this role would not flip upon your death, this ability outputs the total text of this role after your death-triggered roleflip.
(Setup) Well, Technically No: Since this is an FBYOR, you need an in-game role! Before the start of the game, choose one role from the list below. At the start of the game, that role is created and granted to you.
(1-Shot, Day) Do-Over, Please: Since this role ought to do something, this ability erases your current in-game role and replaces it with a different role of your choice from Well, Technically No’s list. You keep any Item abilities you possessed, though.

Imaginary Dragon (town):
(Auto) Big Scary Dragon: Since you’re so big and obvious, when you gain this ability or it ceases to be Disabled, it is publicly announced that you possess a Dragon role.
(Night) Cloud Breath [target]: You breathe thick imaginary clouds all over your target! This Disables any actions they used this Night until the end of the next Night, after those actions resolve. The occluding clouds also protect them from kills.
(Auto) There Can Only Be One: Dragons grow stronger if they are unopposed. If you are the only living player with a Dragon role, Cloud Breath performs its Disable before the target’s actions resolve, instead of after.

Imaginary Devil (town):
(Auto) The Bad Guy: You alignment inspect as though you were a Mafia player, because you’re clearly a villain.
(3-Shot, Night) Dealmaker [target]: You whisper in your target’s ear. Choose either Devil’s Wisdom or Devil’s Grace. Your target may choose to accept or refuse, and they are informed of the consequences of acceptance. This does not expose your identity. If they choose to accept, they must choose a non-Item action ability they possess, which is given to you - but transformed into a 1-Shot. They then gain the Devil’s auto-ability you chose. Players cannot gain a Devil’s ability that they already possess.

(Reference) (Auto) Devil’s Wisdom: You possess unearthly wisdom. Your investigative actions always return accurate results, bypassing obfuscation abilities, but investigative actions used directly on you always fail.
(Reference) (1-Shot, Auto) Devil’s Grace: You possess unearthly grace. When you would be killed, you survive the kill. When you would fail to kill due to kill immunity or a protection, you instead pierce it.

Imaginary Duelist (town):
(Auto) Widespread Myth: Due to your prolific violence, you must take action every Night, and cannot target the same player with any action you possess two Nights in a row.
(Night) Challenge [target]: You challenge your target to a duel! You force them to target you with any single-target abilities they use this Night. If they would kill you, you kill them first - though they still kill you if they survive that.

Please make the decision of which role to materialize, as per your (Setup) ability, before your first post.

[TolyK]

And I feel quite rusty, in that reading players is still hard and I feel the meta hasn't shifted much but my play is still pretty meh.

But hey, I was mostly right on the mechanics bits!

[webadict]

I would disagree with you on the semantics of Tric’s ability; “and” is used to join to separate sentences together so its presence doesn’t mean that Tric has to survive in order for it to trigger an On Fire, but I think I made clear my feelings on Final Countdown heh.

Oh no, I'm not saying Final Countdown was a good Ability, nor that the Mafia deserved to win.  But the Mafia got fucked in every conceivable way by their Roles.  Final Countdown existing is, somehow, the most balanced aspect to the game, because their Roles are, inherently, not powerful in the slightest.

Technically, you are right about the and, though.  It should not have a comma to designate following, but it does appear to be that way.  Thus, interpreting it as two conjoined conditionals:

"When someone would kill you, you survive it."
"When someone would kill you, the player who attempted to kill you is set On Fire."

is not an incorrect interpretation.

[Jim Groovester]

Oh, and Max shouldn't have died.

You have to be fucking kidding me. The mafia should have killed successfully exactly zero times but still would've won because of Final Countdown were it not for a silly technicality.

What a very memorable trainwreck of a game.

[Vector]

Look, my goal was to get you guys to kill Juicebox and to hide Nakéen, and I succeeded in that... so I'm happy.

[Maximum Spin]

You have to be fucking kidding me. The mafia should have killed successfully exactly zero times but still would've won because of Final Countdown were it not for a silly technicality.

What a very memorable trainwreck of a game.

No, gimme a little more credit, I would've pushed Nakéen out if I were still alive.

[Nakéen]

You have to be fucking kidding me. The mafia should have killed successfully exactly zero times but still would've won because of Final Countdown were it not for a silly technicality.

What a very memorable trainwreck of a game.

No, gimme a little more credit, I would've pushed Nakéen out if I were still alive.

I agree! It was good for me that Spin died early.

[TolyK]

I mean, I still enjoyed the game, but I guess that's because I didn't take it too seriously in the first place.

[TricMagic]

My records indicate that Nakéen is On Fire. Final Countdown kills unstoppably, so Tric does die, regardless of having multiple layers of scales. However, Dragon's Scales 'set-on-fire' effect is not stated to be conditional on surviving the kill. So 'you survive it' is voided, but 'the player who attempted to kill you is set On Fire' is not voided. Which leads us to 'If they are already On Fire, you kill them instead.' My intent when writing this was that instead of igniting the player, they would be killed, though as with many abilities in this game, it could do with more clear writing.

End result: EuchreJack is executed. Final Countdown resolves. All non-mafia players are killed, and then Tric's ability kills Nakéen.

I am now imagining I'm waring a dragonscale coat made out of dragonscales. (Shed of course. I'm no killer.)

I am now Dragon, your vicargumenttory is invalid. 


On an SK not killing, I would need to make a concentrated effort to do so. Which would out me pretty quick in such a large game. Instead I focused on hunting down mafia. (And hinting at third parties occasionally, as you do.)

[Jim Groovester]

I am now Dragon

DRAGON DEEZ NUTZ

[Knightwing64]

I MISSED DAY END?

FUCKKKKKKKKKKkKk




I swear, NQT was on me the whole game even though everything pointed to me not being mafia.

The crazy part is, I suspected Tric because he wasn’t acting obviously scummy like he does while town, but I didn’t want to throw a accusation around with no solid proof.

Nakeen?

Huh.

It’s always the quite ones.

I was busy for most of the time the game was going on, so it sucks that I didn’t partipate as much as I could have but…

It was fun.

Final Countdown was bullshit though. It actively discourages the mafia from killing and just makes it a game of stalling till day 4 or 5 or whatever.