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[Devastator]

In hindsight the cover would have made surviving a hit more likely.  Still woulda gotten blown up, though!

I'm just hoping the APCs can get in range and grenade the wall to death, since the multilas don't seem to be working.  ;-p

Would it be possible to mount a grenade launcher in place of the heavy bolter?  Having nothing but full-auto only vehicle weapons seems really bad.

[Stirk]

In hindsight the cover would have made surviving a hit more likely.  Still woulda gotten blown up, though!

I'm just hoping the APCs can get in range and grenade the wall to death, since the multilas don't seem to be working.  ;-p

Would it be possible to mount a grenade launcher in place of the heavy bolter?  Having nothing but full-auto only vehicle weapons seems really bad.

Theoretically, but in practice it'd probably be considered heresy since it isn't one of the book options. You could just shoot a grenade launcher out of the firing ports though.

[Devastator]

Mmm.  Probably too rare to get without trading a vehicle weapon for it, anyway.

(Grenade launcher is Average)

That's better than I was expecting.  Still seems unlikely to get one, but possible.  And it being basic means it doesn't require bracing or all that stuff, right?

[Stirk]

Mmm.  Probably too rare to get without trading a vehicle weapon for it, anyway.

(Grenade launcher is Average)

That's better than I was expecting.  Still seems unlikely to get one, but possible.  And it being basic means it doesn't require bracing or all that stuff, right?

Correct, there are Heavy grenade launchers that do require that stuff but fire semi-auto to make up for it. There are also lighter underbarrel grenade launchers that are Scarce.

[Devastator]

Mmm.  Is there any number of degrees of failure where a Blast weapon becomes ineffective or dangerous?  Because someone could easily be firing it with 40 points of penalties from driving actions and being untrained.  A high roll could lead to eight or more degrees of failure.

..also, it only lists a -20 penalty to Weapon Skill when losing your primary hand.  Is there no penalty to Ballistic Skill tests after losing your primary hand?

[Stirk]

Mmm.  Is there any number of degrees of failure where a Blast weapon becomes ineffective or dangerous?  Because someone could easily be firing it with 40 points of penalties from driving actions and being untrained.  A high roll could lead to eight or more degrees of failure.

..also, it only lists a -20 penalty to Weapon Skill when losing your primary hand.  Is there no penalty to Ballistic Skill tests after losing your primary hand?

Grenade weapons will specifically become dangerous if you jam them, at which point there is a 1/10th change they explode and ruin whatever launcher they're in. Penalties don't effect that chance though.

Generally the downside to blast weapons is that you can only carry a little bit of ammunition on you since they're so heavy.

It is listed under Two Weapon Fighting that you get -20 to offhanded ballistic attacks.

[Devastator]

That sounds like a really good reason to have it mounted outside the hull then, instead of firing it from firing ports.

Should give it to Bahzil the psyker, who is already rolling 1% odds to cause horrible destruction every turn.  And could use a half-action attack that doesn't require aiming.

Should get the heavy one too, just to abuse not actually needing to brace or anything when you've already got 0% chance to hit.  ;-p

[Devastator]

Just bumping this.

Might be an idea to automate the next few turns.  I think we're like five turns from the vehicles arriving and five turns of "Drive" doesn't sound very fun.

Also might be a good idea to show us what the right move is here.  Will they be safe from the cannons if they move a bit more into the jungle, breaking line of sight?  Or should they just do a 'conceal' roll and fight in melee or something?

[Stirk]

Just bumping this.

Might be an idea to automate the next few turns.  I think we're like five turns from the vehicles arriving and five turns of "Drive" doesn't sound very fun.

Also might be a good idea to show us what the right move is here.  Will they be safe from the cannons if they move a bit more into the jungle, breaking line of sight?  Or should they just do a 'conceal' roll and fight in melee or something?

The Dismount team has to deal with the Orks who'll be on them in two turns, and skipping someone is probably more boring then letting them take their action.

I don't know what the "right move" is here. I mostly just write a scenario and see how it plays out :V

[Egan_BW]

I just added Dodge to my sheet and only now realize that I have better WS than Agi and Parry would cost the same, so maybe it's better. Or maybe not.

[Stirk]

I just added Dodge to my sheet and only now realize that I have better WS than Agi and Parry would cost the same, so maybe it's better. Or maybe not.

Parry can only be used in melee. Which you guys have been avoiding despite having melee builds. Dodge is all the time, so it is better in general.

[Devastator]

Well, since our weaposn are bayonets, not much reason to not shoot.  And charging a fort in melee would have been another 3+ turns, right?

[hector13]

I just added Dodge to my sheet and only now realize that I have better WS than Agi and Parry would cost the same, so maybe it's better. Or maybe not.

Parry can only be used in melee. Which you guys have been avoiding despite having melee builds. Dodge is all the time, so it is better in general.

While it would be epic, melee combat while in range of multiple kannons seems unwise.

[Egan_BW]

me charge fort and stab the wall

[Egan_BW]

I just added Dodge to my sheet and only now realize that I have better WS than Agi and Parry would cost the same, so maybe it's better. Or maybe not.

Parry can only be used in melee. Which you guys have been avoiding despite having melee builds. Dodge is all the time, so it is better in general.

While it would be epic, melee combat while in range of multiple kannons seems unwise.

I considered charging the two foot orks so that the grot would hold off on firing due to risk of fragging the orks the orks would die with me in the explosion and I'd be a martyr.