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Author Topic: Emotional Responses to War in Ukraine - Personal Diary & Mutual Support  (Read 131190 times)

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Re: Emotional Responses to War in Ukraine - Personal Diary & Mutual Support
« Reply #1575 on: October 19, 2022, 12:25:26 pm »

McCarthy won't have the ability to do that even if the GOP does take the House. Neoisolationism is far from a universal position among the GOP, and the very worst case scenarios project their margin as quite small. The Speaker doesn't have, and never has, nearly the amount of control over the House that the Majority Leader has over the Senate.
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« Reply #1576 on: October 19, 2022, 04:10:36 pm »

McCarthy may not have enough GOP support to stop aid to Ukraine, but he will use the talking point as something to complicate every other issue involving money expenditures.

"Why spend overseas when we need to spend domestically?" and "We have a domestic crisis, and you are at fault for our not having the funding!"
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« Reply #1577 on: October 19, 2022, 04:32:58 pm »

If the democrats had any guts, they'd use this as an opportunity to paint the republicans as spineless cowards who would let democracies fall to the commies. Most of the right are pro-military and pro traditional values. Defending European countries from Russians is a traditional value. Don't know how they would feel about this sudden change of platform.

If you spin this right, you can create pretty damning proof that the today's GOP truly does stand for nothing but the furthering of its own power.
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« Reply #1578 on: October 19, 2022, 05:31:04 pm »

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« Reply #1579 on: October 19, 2022, 05:35:09 pm »

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« Reply #1580 on: October 19, 2022, 07:21:25 pm »

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« Reply #1581 on: October 19, 2022, 09:35:42 pm »

3000 NATO armor buffer states of Ukraine
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« Reply #1582 on: October 20, 2022, 05:15:26 am »

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« Reply #1583 on: October 20, 2022, 02:17:17 pm »

Seeing information from various sources, I am reasonably (like 90%) convinced that Belarus will join the war in the next few weeks.

It seems illogical beyond belief, attacking through a swampy and forest terrain during autumn rains is borderline idiotic. Belarus Army has zero combat experience and low morale. But this war has seen many idiotic moves... And Putin ordering his puppet to aid in a new offensive aimed at taking Kyiv is in his character. Something like German Ardennes offensive in 1944

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« Reply #1584 on: October 20, 2022, 02:45:40 pm »

It's not idiotic. They don't even have to make any real effort to be useful. Just enough to draw some forces to the border. Every Ukrainian brigade tied down is a brigade not attacking.
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« Reply #1585 on: October 20, 2022, 03:21:57 pm »

And hadn't Ukraine blown up basically every bridge to Belarus anyway?

Hopefully they send off the army and the Belarusian citizenry seizes the opportunity to have a nice involuntary transfer of power.
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« Reply #1586 on: October 20, 2022, 04:15:46 pm »

It's not idiotic. They don't even have to make any real effort to be useful. Just enough to draw some forces to the border. Every Ukrainian brigade tied down is a brigade not attacking.

It would be true if... that didn't mean that Belarus will have to use its military resources not to send them to Russia but on this hopeless front. Creating some kind of expeditionary force of volunteers and sending those to reinforce Russia on some other front would be far more logical.

And hadn't Ukraine blown up basically every bridge to Belarus anyway?

Hopefully they send off the army and the Belarusian citizenry seizes the opportunity to have a nice involuntary transfer of power.

Yeah, it is not like February. There are minefields, trenches, etc.

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« Reply #1587 on: October 20, 2022, 05:08:03 pm »

There is another option; which is that Belarus throws up lots of smoke and dust about how they're going to invade Ukraine, stations all of their troops on the border with Ukraine, and then does nothing.
This would force Ukraine to send hundreds of thousands of troops to defend the Belarusian border just in case the Belarusians sense weakness and attack. But there is no actual obligation for Belarus to attack, and so in this way Belarus would be able to greatly aid Russia without risking any Belarusian resources or exposing potential weaknesses in the Belarusian army

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« Reply #1589 on: October 20, 2022, 05:36:06 pm »

Why are the German greens so ardently anti nuclear and pro coal?
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