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Probably a good idea.

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Not really necessary.

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I don't play Berserker so I don't really have an opinion.

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Total Members Voted: 6

[Smoke Mirrors]

Yeah, somehow resisting the effect slipped my mind. Also, I’ll need to figure out how exactly to figure out what a curse or magical item’s roll under number would be. Regardless, it’s late where I am, so probably for the best if I get back to you on what to do with the spell tomorrow

[Smoke Mirrors]

I'd say that it has reduced effectiveness depending on how *physical* an effect is. So things like magically created items would get bonuses on their rolls to resist being dispelled, and things like curses get minuses on rolls to resist being dispelled.

Oh, and in case it wasn't clear, I've been assuming that the cleanse can be resisted.

Ok, I think that I can accept it at least for the time being, given this is testing so if it turns out to be busted, then it can be changed later, though I probably need to work out more of how spell resistance work. I think it may make more sense for it to be a contested roll, so that a character with above 10 Mana doesn't always resist a spell and the strength of the caster vs target fits in, though spells like Flame orb or summoning would have separate rolls for use and resistance as it's not created with a specific target.

[Lenglon]

I'd say that it has reduced effectiveness depending on how *physical* an effect is. So things like magically created items would get bonuses on their rolls to resist being dispelled, and things like curses get minuses on rolls to resist being dispelled.

Oh, and in case it wasn't clear, I've been assuming that the cleanse can be resisted.

Ok, I think that I can accept it at least for the time being, given this is testing so if it turns out to be busted, then it can be changed later, though I probably need to work out more of how spell resistance work. I think it may make more sense for it to be a contested roll, so that a character with above 10 Mana doesn't always resist a spell and the strength of the caster vs target fits in, though spells like Flame orb or summoning would have separate rolls for use and resistance as it's not created with a specific target.

Seems solid to me, it also gives you a lever to adjust if the variety or power of spells turns out to be a problem.

[Failbird105]

Alright, now to figure out what John Henry's ability would be. His whole kit is kinda covered pretty nicely already.

[Smoke Mirrors]

Alright, now to figure out what John Henry's ability would be. His whole kit is kinda covered pretty nicely already.

You could toss healing onto an active ability and get a new passive.

[Failbird105]

I could, but frankly it feels like if anything that would make the healing weaker. After all, theoretically John Henry can spam-heal his way through the damage dealt by a weaker opponent.

Although, I suppose that in itself is kind of an exploit best patched.

Hmm... what if the healing is based on the amount of Overload damage he has received since the ability was last used? Essentially he sacrifices a turn to undo the negative effects of Overload.
Will need to think of an alternative passive for him though...

[Smoke Mirrors]

I could, but frankly it feels like if anything that would make the healing weaker. After all, theoretically John Henry can spam-heal his way through the damage dealt by a weaker opponent.

Although, I suppose that in itself is kind of an exploit best patched.

Hmm... what if the healing is based on the amount of Overload damage he has received since the ability was last used? Essentially he sacrifices a turn to undo the negative effects of Overload.
Will need to think of an alternative passive for him though...

I think that sounds good, and if you turn out not to like it, you can change it back later too. I think that might work as a 2 turn cool down skill given you’re going to have to wait for it to be a big effect even if it is charged.

[Stirk]

I can new character Thursday probably, are we just testing passives this time?

[Failbird105]

Aight, here's a WIP of my Sheets update. Namely, transferring Steam Vent into the active skill instead

Spoiler: Berserker (click to show/hide)

Origin (Player): History/American Folk Tales (Failbird105)
Name: John Henry
Class: Berserker
Alignment: True Neutral
Mana: 80(100 including Madness Enhancement)
Traits: Male, Hominidae Servant, Humanoid, Mechanical

Appearance: A tall, well built, dark skinned man with a chiseled jawline and short hair. He wears a simple blue shirt and set of overalls and bears a large sledgehammer. A pair of steam whistles protrude from his shoulder blades. He looks ordinary at first aside from the whistles, but as he gets more active and his body heats up, the skin on his torso and arms begins to burn away, revealing red-hot steel underneath, and a thrumming, glowing engine in his chest.

Parameters:
Strength: B
Endurance: A
Agility: C
Mana: B
Luck: B

Class Skills:
Madness Enhancement (stubborn) C
Effect: +4 to your roll under number for Strength, Endurance, and Agility. -2 to your roll under number for Mana and Luck. +20 to your mana.

Battle Continuation D
Effect: The first time in each combat your mana reaches 0, gain 10 mana.

Personal Skills:
Overload D
Description: In Henry's case, he overclocks his Steam Engine, boosting its output and increasing the attack power of his Noble Phantasm. The wild machinery inflicts damage to itself, and since the machinery is part of his body, Henry is damaged as well.
Effect: +20 to your damage but you lose 10 mana every time you attack.

Single-Mindedness A
Description: For Henry, money was not a concern, fame was not a concern, life was not a concern. The only thing Henry cared about as he picked up his hammer for the last time was proving you could not replace a man with a machine.
Effect: At the beginning of combat you may declare a target. Any actions you make aimed at that target receive +4 to their roll under numbers until you make an action that is not aimed at that target. If you do so, -1 to all roll under numbers for the rest of battle.


Description:
Effect:

Active Skill:
Steam Vent - Rank E (Recovery) (Self)
Cooldown: 2 Turns
Spend a turn in order to regain all Mana lost due to the effects of Overload since this ability was last used.

Noble Phantasms:
Steel Driving Man (D-B) Anti-Obstacle
Cost: 20-40(not counting Overload costs)
Description: John Henry was born for driving steel. And when his own body wasn’t enough, he was rebuilt to do it all the better. He himself is now a machine that digs tunnels, builds rails, and drives steel more effectively than any ordinary man or drill ever could. In this Noble Phantasm he recreates the nonstop steel driving race that ended his human life. Planting a rail spike into the target with a brutal first blow, he then follows up with several powerful strikes from his hammer. An alternate version of this Noble Phantasm exists in which John Henry continues striking indefinitely until either his body or the targets give out, ending in both parties almost assured destruction, but it is fundamentally unused in this game.
Effects: When activated, you can choose if this is counted as a D, C, or B rank noble phantasm.
D Rank: Inflict two 30 damage attacks to target enemy or object.
C Rank: Inflict three 30 damage attacks to target enemy or object and, if animate, give it -1 to its roll under number for Endurance for each successful attack. -2 to your roll under number for Agility and Endurance for 3 actions.
B Rank: Inflict four 30 damage attacks to target enemy or object and, if animate, give it -1 to its roll under number for Endurance for each successful attack. -4 to your roll under number for Agility, Endurance, and Luck for 3 actions.

[Smoke Mirrors]

John Henry
Strength Check: 7 (Success), 7 (No Crit) Remainder 5 vs 2 (Success), 8 (Crit Success) Remainder 2
Wyvern 2 Agility Check: 10 (Success), 7 (No Crit) Remainder 2 vs 4 (Success), 7 (No Crit) Remainder 6

Once more, John Henry struck at the wyvern with his hammer, but the wyvern managed to duck out of the way of the attack in time. Fortunately, the wyvern’s own attack on the man failed to, with John managing to move out of the way of it’s talons.

I can new character Thursday probably, are we just testing passives this time?

No, next round we're introducing active abilities, see last turn for how those are going to work, and you'll be up against enemies that are roughly of the same rank as you guys. You don't need to make a new character, just to work out your active ability and post an updated sheet, mostly just so I can have all the sheets together to consult back to.

[Stirk]

Spoiler: Archer (click to show/hide)

Origin (Player): United States
Name: Dr. John Henry Holliday
Class: Archer
Alignment: Lawful Good
Mana: 100
Traits: Male, Humanoid

Appearance: Okita with a mustache A young mustached man in a wild-west outfit, with a nickle-plated pistol in his holster.

Parameters:
Strength: C 3
Endurance: E 1
Agility: A 5
Mana: A 5
Luck: A 5

Class Skills:
Magic resist (D),
independent action (C)
Riding (C) 3

Personal Skills:
Gambler's luck (A)
Description: One of the most well known gamblers of the wild west, Doc was known for his skill at cards despite his rotten luck with his disease. He often made a living working for casinos as a dealer, and ended up trading bullets and knives as a result.
Effect: Roll luck every turn. On a success he increases the damage of one ally for this action. On a critical success he increases the damage of all allies for this action. On a failure the enemy will receive no damage this turn.

Marksmanship (A)
Description: One of the famed gunslingers of the old west, Holliday is known as a talented gunslinger who was said to have won over 30 dues. While this may be an exaggeration his skill with a firearm is undisputed.
Effect: +5 to your roll under number for Agility when rolling accuracy for a ranged attack

Frontier Dentistry (B)
Description: Dr.Holliday is perhaps the only known Heroic Spirit Dentist. While Heroic Spirits will need more than a tooth pulled, this skill represents his ability to remove pain from the people of the frontier allowing it to work on more generalized wounds.
Effect: Choose one ally per turn. This ally receives 30 Mana. Dr.Holliday can not spend this on himself.

Noble Phantasms:
A-OK (Anti-Army) (D)
Cost: 20
Description: "Blaze away! You're a daisy if you have!" Holliday's most famous exploit is his involvement with the gunfight at the O.K Corral. Having saved Wyat Earp's life at en earlier time and consequently become best friends, Holliday followed the lawman into confrontation with a variety of outlaws. Its effects represent the events that kicked off the gunfight-saving Earp and the attempt to disarm that started the conflict. A phantom image of a frontier town overtakes the battlefield as Holliday says the line, followed by a series of shotgun blasts from Holliday disarming the enemies and healing allies.
Effects: -3 to one enemy's Agility roll under number for 3 actions, +50 to one ally's Mana.

Active Skills:
Western Climate (D)
Delay: 6
Description: Moving out west was a common solution for tuberculosis. Warm and dry climates like those on the frontier where said to increase the lifespan of tuberculosis victims, which is what sent Holliday to the frontier in the first place. It seemed to have worked given his original diagnosis gave him a scant few months to live. This skill represents the life-expanding effects of the frontier itself.
Effects: +3 Endurance to one Ally for 3 turns.

[Smoke Mirrors]

Spoiler: Archer (click to show/hide)

Origin (Player): United States
Name: Dr. John Henry Holliday
Class: Archer
Alignment: Lawful Good
Mana: 100
Traits: Male, Humanoid

Appearance: Okita with a mustache A young mustached man in a wild-west outfit, with a nickle-plated pistol in his holster.

Parameters:
Strength: C 3
Endurance: E 1
Agility: A 5
Mana: A 5
Luck: A 5

Class Skills:
Magic resist (D),
independent action (C)
Riding (C) 3

Personal Skills:
Gambler's luck (A)
Description: One of the most well known gamblers of the wild west, Doc was known for his skill at cards despite his rotten luck with his disease. He often made a living working for casinos as a dealer, and ended up trading bullets and knives as a result.
Effect: Roll luck every turn. On a success he increases the damage of one ally for this action. On a critical success he increases the damage of all allies for this action. On a failure the enemy will receive no damage this turn.

Marksmanship (A)
Description: One of the famed gunslingers of the old west, Holliday is known as a talented gunslinger who was said to have won over 30 dues. While this may be an exaggeration his skill with a firearm is undisputed.
Effect: +5 to your roll under number for Agility when rolling accuracy for a ranged attack

Frontier Dentistry (B)
Description: Dr.Holliday is perhaps the only known Heroic Spirit Dentist. While Heroic Spirits will need more than a tooth pulled, this skill represents his ability to remove pain from the people of the frontier allowing it to work on more generalized wounds.
Effect: Choose one ally per turn. This ally receives 30 Mana. Dr.Holliday can not spend this on himself.

Noble Phantasms:
A-OK (Anti-Army) (D)
Cost: 20
Description: "Blaze away! You're a daisy if you have!" Holliday's most famous exploit is his involvement with the gunfight at the O.K Corral. Having saved Wyat Earp's life at en earlier time and consequently become best friends, Holliday followed the lawman into confrontation with a variety of outlaws. Its effects represent the events that kicked off the gunfight-saving Earp and the attempt to disarm that started the conflict. A phantom image of a frontier town overtakes the battlefield as Holliday says the line, followed by a series of shotgun blasts from Holliday disarming the enemies and healing allies.
Effects: -3 to one enemy's Agility roll under number for 3 actions, +50 to one ally's Mana.

Active Skills:
Western Climate (D)
Delay: 6
Description: Moving out west was a common solution for tuberculosis. Warm and dry climates like those on the frontier where said to increase the lifespan of tuberculosis victims, which is what sent Holliday to the frontier in the first place. It seemed to have worked given his original diagnosis gave him a scant few months to live. This skill represents the life-expanding effects of the frontier itself.
Effects: +3 Endurance to one Ally for 3 turns.

Looks good.

[Smoke Mirrors]

John Henry
Strength Check: 7 (Success),10 (No Crit) Remainder 5 vs 3 (Success), 10 (No Crit) Remainder 9
Wyvern 2 Agility Check: 8 (Success), 7 (No Crit) Remainder 4 vs 8 (Success), 2 (No Crit) Remainder 2

Once more, John Henry struck at the wyvern with his hammer, but the wyvern managed to duck out of the way of the attack in time. The wyvern tried to attack back at John, but once more failed to land a hit. Realizing that this was going nowhere, the wyvern decided that it was in its best interest to just fly away in search of easier prey, and so it did, leaving the pass open for John Henry to head through.


Yeah, when I started writing this turn I said “if nothing changes again, the wyvern is going to fly away” and so… round 2 is done. Still waiting on all the updated sheets and doing some work of my own to prepare for the next round, but when I get those we can start.

[Failbird105]

Spoiler: Berserker (click to show/hide)

Origin (Player): History/American Folk Tales (Failbird105)
Name: John Henry
Class: Berserker
Alignment: True Neutral
Mana: 80(100 including Madness Enhancement)
Traits: Male, Hominidae Servant, Humanoid, Mechanical

Appearance: A tall, well built, dark skinned man with a chiseled jawline and short hair. He wears a simple blue shirt and set of overalls and bears a large sledgehammer. A pair of steam whistles protrude from his shoulder blades. He looks ordinary at first aside from the whistles, but as he gets more active and his body heats up, the skin on his torso and arms begins to burn away, revealing red-hot steel underneath, and a thrumming, glowing engine in his chest.

Parameters:
Strength: B
Endurance: A
Agility: C
Mana: B
Luck: B

Class Skills:
Madness Enhancement (stubborn) C
Effect: +4 to your roll under number for Strength, Endurance, and Agility. -2 to your roll under number for Mana and Luck. +20 to your mana.

Battle Continuation D
Effect: The first time in each combat your mana reaches 0, gain 10 mana.

Personal Skills:
Overload D
Description: In Henry's case, he overclocks his Steam Engine, boosting its output and increasing the attack power of his Noble Phantasm. The wild machinery inflicts damage to itself, and since the machinery is part of his body, Henry is damaged as well.
Effect: +20 to your damage but you lose 10 mana every time you attack.

Single-Mindedness A
Description: For Henry, money was not a concern, fame was not a concern, life was not a concern. The only thing Henry cared about as he picked up his hammer for the last time was proving you could not replace a man with a machine.
Effect: At the beginning of combat you may declare a target. Any actions you make aimed at that target receive +4 to their roll under numbers until you make an action that is not aimed at that target. If you do so, -1 to all roll under numbers for the rest of battle.

Cautionary Tale (D)
Description: A skill possessed by Heroic Spirits whose stories were not spread to inspire awe and heroics, but to warn others of the consequences of their actions and inspire caution. John Henry's tale warns one of the dangers of overwork, reminding them to pace themselves lest their body fail them.
Effect:The first time John Henry's Mana reaches zero, all other allies receive a +3 to accuracy and Endurance rolls.

Active Skill:
Steam Vent (E)
Cooldown: 2 Turns
Spend a turn in order to regain all Mana lost due to the effects of Overload since this ability was last used.

Noble Phantasms:
Steel Driving Man (D-B) Anti-Obstacle
Cost: 20-40(not counting Overload costs)
Description: John Henry was born for driving steel. And when his own body wasn’t enough, he was rebuilt to do it all the better. He himself is now a machine that digs tunnels, builds rails, and drives steel more effectively than any ordinary man or drill ever could. In this Noble Phantasm he recreates the nonstop steel driving race that ended his human life. Planting a rail spike into the target with a brutal first blow, he then follows up with several powerful strikes from his hammer. An alternate version of this Noble Phantasm exists in which John Henry continues striking indefinitely until either his body or the targets give out, ending in both parties almost assured destruction, but it is fundamentally unused in this game.
Effects: When activated, you can choose if this is counted as a D, C, or B rank noble phantasm.
D Rank: Inflict two 30 damage attacks to target enemy or object.
C Rank: Inflict three 30 damage attacks to target enemy or object and, if animate, give it -1 to its roll under number for Endurance for each successful attack. -2 to your roll under number for Agility and Endurance for 3 actions.
B Rank: Inflict four 30 damage attacks to target enemy or object and, if animate, give it -1 to its roll under number for Endurance for each successful attack. -4 to your roll under number for Agility, Endurance, and Luck for 3 actions.

[Smoke Mirrors]

Right, I've been holding off on round 1.3 since I've been waiting on Paladin to post their updated sheet, as well as since I was procrastinating finishing stuff up on my end, and now I'm going to be going on vacation in a few days so I suppose this is on temporary hiatus until August 4th as I won't be able to bring my laptop up with me. This post is to remind Paladin to make their active skill and edited sheet, a reminder to the rest of you that we doubled the mana of normal servants, so A is 200, B is 160, C is 120, etc. for the purposes of making servant fights less rocket tagy. Also, a new poll on if I should change the mana boost from Madness Enhancement to go with the new changes to mana or leave it the same. Also, I decided that sneak attacks should have a bonus to Agility for accuracy, which may or may not be helpful when we get to 1.3. Feel free to ask me any question and I'll start the next round on the 4th or, if I end up being really jet lagged, the 5th.