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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #90 on: December 10, 2021, 06:44:14 pm »

I'll try and get page 8 done. I've had a fair bit of fun on this forum.

Anyone got a precise time for the shutdown?
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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #91 on: December 10, 2021, 06:48:44 pm »

Nope, none of us do. We're assuming Midnight. Also, I'm giving you a medal.

Honestly, if it isn't too expensive, I'll look into minting NFTs to give out to everyone who played a critical role in this archival process. It's worth it.

EDIT: I hope I don't look like an idiot for saying that.

EDIT2: One year later. Yup I certainly did. Thank god I didn't actually follow through on that.
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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #92 on: December 10, 2021, 07:12:45 pm »

Here's what I've done so far.

I've looked through:
- All forum posts until today.
- The latest posts in this thread, until today.
- All of my personal PMs.
And from all posts/PMs I've taken all URLs that look like QuickTopic URLs (either from text, or from the hyperlink).
This is currently 713 QuickTopic URLs.

I then converted the URLs to end with ?o=1&range=all, which selects all messages and sorts them from oldest to most recent (vs the default, which is recent to old).

I've downloaded 713 HTML pages onto my local PC, indexed by the MD5 hash of their expanded URL. The original URL is saved as a comment in the beginning of the HTML page, so we can easily find what the original URL was:

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<!-- Original URL: http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/wdySNKdWSQU?o=1&range=all -->
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
      "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
 <head>
  <title>BYOR 7 - Mafia Chat - QuickTopic free message board hosting</title>

The end result, as I've mentioned, is missing all images, and so looks pretty shitty.  :P

I've also been submitting these to the internet archive, however it indeed often fails, so I've set it to retry continuously.



FWIW, I've manually submitted the KYOSN chats, which are probably my only noteworthy hosted games.

https://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/U732tWkSVuYF?o=1&range=all
https://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/DcLgGAbZcSD4j?o=1&range=all
https://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/DEumT8D3Z8G?o=1&range=all
https://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/aM9zw7hjP6br?o=1&range=all
https://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/J2BPvqKp3ND4h?o=1&range=all
https://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/LewxCGe2kVh?o=1&range=all

I also manually submitted the links Webadict sent earlier, just in case.



BTW, if someone forgot to save the links, we can get most of them back. I've saved all the actual QuickTopic links themselves posted everywhere on the forum, and also separately those from this thread. The archive.org URL can be constructed from that. In the best case, the thread URL itself was saved by hand. In an intermediate case, I can map the QuickTopic URL to the Bay12 thread URL. In the worst case, we'll just need to find the post in this thread.
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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #93 on: December 10, 2021, 07:14:45 pm »

PAGE 10:
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=122540.0 - Viva la Revolucion
 - some kind of pregame-only scumchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211001533/https://quicktopic.com/50/H/9YKi9Uhw8Lu
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=120520.0 - Mafia, Masons, and Hackers
 - deadchat (apparently no scumchat) - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211001703/https://quicktopic.com/50/H/UQhd2w9xhxEF?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=45&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=120310.0 - BM XXXVIII: Jackelope Bandits
 - scumchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211002046/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/iEYSi3FXCGk?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=71&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - deadchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211002153/https://www.quicktopic.com/49/H/ZB7LE3w2tYmJ?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=70&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=119678.0 - Paranormal Mafia 22
 - scumchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211002359/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/ZMxJBGHNqFZ3?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=88&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - deadchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211002432/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/prDQugFGmPpi?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=118&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=119041.0 - BYOR 11
 - scumchat (no deadchat found - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211002555/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/TEmX4ThSzm8M4?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=109&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=117173.0 - BM XXXVII: Welcome to Zombo Mafia
 - deadchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211002847/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/wTHWW5EW74hP5?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=128&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - scumchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211002924/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/KWsgqJWNasvq?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=175&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=117245.0 - M E I N K A M P F : A Tale of Vainglourious Basterds
 - Frogchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211003218/https://quicktopic.com/47/H/HwnCPiciMEfG?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=99&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - Americachat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211003401/https://quicktopic.com/47/H/GLZYyTjf8TZVN?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=111&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - Britchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211003520/https://quicktopic.com/47/H/iF4PKbbNYa2f?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=144&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - Commiechat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211003829/https://quicktopic.com/47/H/cL6SumFyAwu?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=49&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - Deadchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211003949/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/iD6auixSaT636?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=43&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=117205.0 - BYOR 10
 - scumchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211004136/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/RmmuL84eiX8LP?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=36&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - deadchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211004329/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/usvh8zUaiDLMh?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=31&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=115758.0 - Bring Your Own Cards
 - scumchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211004618/https://quicktopic.com/48/H/95yrWdAit7Wt?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=121&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=115529.0 - Rumble in the Necropolis
 - wolfchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211004655/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/9casdsYVaYf?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=120&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - witchchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211004734/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/uL3Qd5Qx2eknt?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=94&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - templarchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211004945/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/rQtR4ZJRxmxuc?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=82&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - zombie uristchat? - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211005251/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/3JHdwd4rRiAh
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=115600.0 - BMXXXVI
 - scumchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211005543/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/FGSrjgaFAMN?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=108&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - deadchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211005639/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/FZq5H4iKyFFXe?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=24&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=113809.0 - BYOLOLC
 - deadchat (game apparently died, no scumchat seen) - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211005712/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/DfxYiTS3xu523
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=114444.0 - BYOR 9
 - deadchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211005748/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/7HLkqCrrzu6?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=126&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - scumchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211005847/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/3nzW8iMDr4htV?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=219&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=113813.0 - BM XXXV
 - scumchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211005912/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/fKR9ViEZHjmSU?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=96&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - deadchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211005946/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/5EjczsKymt8E2?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=55&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=113368.0 - Paranormal 21
 - scumchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211010006/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/3uVEW3WprqEt8?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=62&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - deadchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211010039/https://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/2CULP6XwDwtM?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=159&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=113334.0 - Roguelike Mafia 5
 - deadchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211010111/https://quicktopic.com/48/H/6AgfmYzPqY2cF
 - skchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211010139/https://quicktopic.com/48/H/45ddTxdhj78h
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=110494.0 - Beginner's Mafia XXXIV
 - scumchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211010215/https://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/qR7cjusYnCEiV?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=127&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page
 - deadchat - https://web.archive.org/web/20211211010310/https://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/bncaKCLLEVv?o=0&range=all&m1=1&mN=34&print=1&submit=Show+printable+page

No obvious chats in Trust Mafia (special setup), Prince's Guard. Skipped some cancelled games. It'd be great if somebody could quickly double-check that I didn't miss any links.

Total time, a little under an hour.
« Last Edit: December 10, 2021, 08:04:41 pm by Maximum Spin »
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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #94 on: December 10, 2021, 07:17:03 pm »

Honestly, if it isn't too expensive, I'll look into minting NFTs to give out to everyone who played a critical role in this archival process. It's worth it.
I think it's a bit more fitting to donate to the internet archive instead. I'll do that once QuickTopic is closed for good. :P
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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #95 on: December 10, 2021, 07:18:15 pm »

I'll manually scrape links from page 9 at least and post them here.
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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #96 on: December 10, 2021, 07:23:05 pm »

You can install a plugin for your browser, scroll down at: https://web.archive.org/  (e.g. Chrome extension or Firefox add-on). Then you can do it without copying the URL.
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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #97 on: December 10, 2021, 07:26:12 pm »

Sorry but I have been on low sleep for a week. I don't have the brain cycles to do literally anything new right now.
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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #98 on: December 10, 2021, 07:26:59 pm »

Sorry but I have been on low sleep for a week. I don't have the brain cycles to do literally anything new right now.
Get some sleep Vector, I'll tag in for you.
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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #100 on: December 10, 2021, 07:43:48 pm »

I'll keep on with page 8, this really isn't too bad. Posting the first eight here for redundancy, I have very clumsy fingers sometimes.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Think I'm doing this right.
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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #101 on: December 10, 2021, 07:58:34 pm »

FYI, the extension makes this a LOT easier. You just need to add the query ?o=1&range=all to the end of you URL, reload the page (and double check), then click the extension itself and "save". Hasn't failed me yet, but takes a while to actually submit.



I'm duplicating everything I could find on Page 8 starting from the end (though about half were already done, I assume due to my script or automatically from the extension, since nobody else was using my particular URL):

www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?board=20.140

However, archive.org is starting to limit me even more, I guess after thousands of requests... :P

I didn't find chats for:

KOTM 4 http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=137539.0
Paranormal 24 http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=147607.1500
CYOMafias http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=148604.0

NJWedit: Ok, seems we got this from both angles.
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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #102 on: December 10, 2021, 08:06:07 pm »

Wait, I'm confused. Do I keep going with page 8, or have you got that covered?

 I'm down to Thick as Thieves, (and you're on your way to meet me, if I understood that correctly.)


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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #103 on: December 10, 2021, 08:13:36 pm »

I already did the others on Page 8, though if you'll keep doing Page 8 it might not have an archive for the "print version" page, only for the "ordered and all" page (it's annoying that those are different).

It's 2 AM here, so I'll go off for tonight. I will set the automatic archiver overnight to run on all threads it found, just in case there's some we missed by hand.

Good luck all. Hopefully we'll make it before they take it crashing down! Worst case, we'll have to re-host the chats somewhere.
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Re: Oh jeez, Quicktopic is shutting down
« Reply #104 on: December 10, 2021, 08:18:03 pm »

Right. In that case I'll go through the rest, I don't have much on tomorrow, and the non-print version doesn't always have everything, afaik.
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