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[Magma Mater]

Why would I care if your inventor claim is confirmed? How is that relevant?
Cop claim is relevant because we have a flipped miller. Inventor claim is totally different.

Because you might be able to ascertain whether or not ToonyMan is scum via the inventor claim.  Or "more likely scum" vs. "More Likely Town".
Why do you think ToonyMan gave me something?  Why not someone else?  Why not their scumbuddy?
Who needs a fake claim when your scum buddy can just GIVE you something to do?

Uhhh off the top of my head, reasons for giving a gift to town-Jack instead of to a scumbuddy:

1. He doesn't know who his scumbuddy is.
2. He knows you'd town-read him for giving you something.
3. He thinks you'll use it in an anti-town way.
4. The gift is cursed.
5. He's forced to give a gift to town, and their team tried to circumvent that by having Max kill you.

[ToonyMan]

Because as crazy as I am, "Scum Cop" is a crazy assumption to make at 8p. Especially with so many unknowns. The truth is that his claim has earned him some slank cover. If he's still slanking at 5p then I'll be willing to reassess.

You know why those unknowns exist, right?

Why would I care if your inventor claim is confirmed? How is that relevant?

I can't be lying unless I'm mafia with Jack. Mafia have to be lying in this situation to account for the unknowns, therefore voting someone who could be lying sounds sensible to me.

Are you actually trying to imply that you cannot possibly be a mafia inventor??

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm not accounting for the unknowns. I've decided my choices are between the four players that are. I want to believe Roden so that leaves Toaster, Webadict, and you. Strangely enough these are most of the players I've been suspicious of this whole game!

PPE:

Seriously, the "unknowns" that people are basing the entire game on could both be explained by moderation quirks.
Just play Mafia please.

I try to present cases and people say they suck.

[EuchreJack]

How come Web isn't voting?

[Magma Mater]

Seriously, the "unknowns" that people are basing the entire game on could both be explained by moderation quirks.

1. The Roden "block" can be explained by either of them not understanding their role / result correctly.
2. The webadict 3rd person can be Max who was blocked but still counts as "targeting".

The most likely scenario here is that y'all are chasing after a couple of red herrings. I don't get why that's difficult to understand for the people in this game. Just play Mafia please.

Good points, especially in a Fallacy game.

Other than ToonyMan, what are your other suspects?

@ToonyMan: What are YOUR other suspects?

Maybe you two could agree to go after them instead of each other? 

My PoE is Toony, Roden, Max, Toaster. If we're not killing Toony, I'd be most willing to eliminate Max today. I'll be honest, it would be nice to not have to wonder about whether the kill was stopped due to the jailkeep.

[Magma Mater]

Because as crazy as I am, "Scum Cop" is a crazy assumption to make at 8p. Especially with so many unknowns. The truth is that his claim has earned him some slank cover. If he's still slanking at 5p then I'll be willing to reassess.

You know why those unknowns exist, right?

Why would I care if your inventor claim is confirmed? How is that relevant?

I can't be lying unless I'm mafia with Jack. Mafia have to be lying in this situation to account for the unknowns, therefore voting someone who could be lying sounds sensible to me.

Are you actually trying to imply that you cannot possibly be a mafia inventor??

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm not accounting for the unknowns. I've decided my choices are between the four players that are. I want to believe Roden so that leaves Toaster, Webadict, and you. Strangely enough these are most of the players I've been suspicious of this whole game!

PPE:

Seriously, the "unknowns" that people are basing the entire game on could both be explained by moderation quirks.
Just play Mafia please.

I try to present cases and people say they suck.

By "play mafia" I mean vote for people other than me, obviously!   

[ToonyMan]

@ToonyMan: What are YOUR other suspects?

I'm only voting Magma, Toaster, or Webadict.

[EuchreJack]

It occurs to me, Toaster, that since you appear not to have read the previous rounds, you don't know that we've already had two setups where scum didn't actually have an immediate kill at all. It is extremely possible that the no-kill was not a choice.

I think we should wait for Magma Mater to confirm their action. I will unvote for now.

I don't think Toaster is scum here. I think it's very likely to be Maximum Spin, ToonyMan, or maybe Magma Mater.

[EuchreJack]

Toaster, since I'm not voting Max.

[EuchreJack]

Argument: Toaster read enough of the prior rounds to know this is a role heavy game where the chances of being targetted are high.  Then rolled Mafia Roleblocker Ascetic.
Knowing that if he said nothing he would be outed as an Ascetic, and fearing this would implicate him as mafia, he made the fake claim to control who targeted him.
Thus, Web's theory of Toaster not putting themselves out there doesn't work since Toaster was going to be outed Day 2 anyways if they stayed quiet.

[Jim Groovester]

Seriously, the "unknowns" that people are basing the entire game on could both be explained by moderation quirks.

1. The Roden "block" can be explained by either of them not understanding their role / result correctly.
2. The webadict 3rd person can be Max who was blocked but still counts as "targeting".

The most likely scenario here is that y'all are chasing after a couple of red herrings. I don't get why that's difficult to understand for the people in this game. Just play Mafia please.

Toaster and webadict haven't walked back anything they've claimed about what you're suggesting.

How come Web isn't voting?

Yeah!

[Jim Groovester]

We need to pick somebody. I don't want to screw around and get a no lynch.

[EuchreJack]

We need to pick somebody. I don't want to screw around and get a no lynch.

Toaster or Webadict? Princess Choice

[Magma Mater]

If it's between myself, web and Toaster then...
Toaster
The downside is that Jim will likely die tonight, but that might not be such a terrible thing, given his reads LOL

[EuchreJack]

The downside is that Jim will likely die tonight, but that might not be such a terrible thing, given his reads LOL

Hey now, sometimes a player has great reads except one, and that one is you as scum when you're town.  It happens. Or are there other issues with Jim's reads?

[Jim Groovester]

We need to pick somebody. I don't want to screw around and get a no lynch.

Toaster or Webadict? Princess Choice

No to Toaster.

I'm okay with webadict, but spoonfeed me with why Magma Mater isn't an option for you.

I don't see why Magma Mater is worth keeping around because he hasn't claimed yet.

If it's between myself, web and Toaster then...
Toaster
The downside is that Jim will likely die tonight, but that might not be such a terrible thing, given his reads LOL

Oh wow a tie :|