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[EuchreJack]

PR is short for Power Role, or a role that has an ability.

In this setup the possible town PRs are Jailkeeper, Cop, Doctor, 1-shot Bulletproof, and Tracker. For mafia they could have a Roleblocker and that's it.

  I sure wish I was the bulletproof townie.

Saw this while re-reading, this post makes me die inside.

Yeah, the more I read the Hedgerow posts, the more I realize they were trying to hint at being the Bulletproof, but too afraid to say so.  It sucks, but we can't win them all.

[EuchreJack]

Trusting, for the moment, that Toonyman's not scumbuddies with FOU/Web (which again, would be extreme bastard play on Tric's part to put Web and Toony on the scum team versus newbie town), FOU's day 1 play puts us on the same time, ergo to me FOU is Town.

Also, note that Town can't mentor in a scumchat, so mentoring in public, as Toonyman says, is the only option for Town Teammates FOU/Jack.

I have more work to do on this game before I can redo my reads list, but just put FOU around Roden in the lineup, at the top of the Townie level.

[EuchreJack]

Since I loved Toonyman's game within a game, I created my own.  If you don't want to play, please just tell me so, rather than just ignoring this.

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[u]Game: What if you were the Town Vigilante?[/u]
Assume, for this game, that there is a 1-shot Town Vigilante, and you were given that power role.  Assume also, that Rolan7 was not modkilled, the setup contains another power role of 1-shot Bulletproof, Rolan7 claimed that role, and was [u]not[/u] counterclaimed.
Whom would you kill N2?
I actually would like to think about my answer, since I just came up with the game myself.  I will however say that if I were the 1-shot Town Vigilante, I would be claiming and using my shot N2.  I would most likely be trying to get as much input from town as possible before taking the shot.  I might even defer to the judgment of someone else on whom to kill.  So under this scenario, I wouldn't know, so I guess that is the most honest answer that I can give.

[EuchreJack]

Game: What if you were the Town Vigilante?
Assume, for this game, that there is a 1-shot Town Vigilante, and you were given that power role.  Assume also, that Rolan7 was not modkilled, the setup contains another power role of 1-shot Bulletproof, Rolan7 claimed that role, and was not counterclaimed.
Whom would you kill N2?

I actually would like to think about my answer, since I just came up with the game myself.  I will however say that if I were the 1-shot Town Vigilante, I would be claiming and using my shot N2.  I would most likely be trying to get as much input from town as possible before taking the shot.  I might even defer to the judgment of someone else on whom to kill.  So under this scenario, I wouldn't know, so I guess that is the most honest answer that I can give.

[Roden]

I don't see the point in not just voting now tbh. Theoretically, sure, town odds are better to vote no lynch. But in reality all it'll do is cross me off the list and you'll all just be in the same place tomorrow. If a Tracker speaks up they can be safely counter claimed by scum. And in all honesty, if both Jack and Toony are town as I suspect, I don't trust Jack not to make an emotional/rage vote against Toony. The entirety of this game is proof that town!Jack would absolutely do that.

[Roden]

PR is short for Power Role, or a role that has an ability.

In this setup the possible town PRs are Jailkeeper, Cop, Doctor, 1-shot Bulletproof, and Tracker. For mafia they could have a Roleblocker and that's it.

  I sure wish I was the bulletproof townie.

Saw this while re-reading, this post makes me die inside.

Yeah, the more I read the Hedgerow posts, the more I realize they were trying to hint at being the Bulletproof, but too afraid to say so.  It sucks, but we can't win them all.

Huh? Didn't you claim you already knew they were town, both before and after the lynch?

[ToonyMan]

I don't see the point in not just voting now tbh. Theoretically, sure, town odds are better to vote no lynch. But in reality all it'll do is cross me off the list and you'll all just be in the same place tomorrow. If a Tracker speaks up they can be safely counter claimed by scum. And in all honesty, if both Jack and Toony are town as I suspect, I don't trust Jack not to make an emotional/rage vote against Toony. The entirety of this game is proof that town!Jack would absolutely do that.

While it's true the mafia could CC the Tracker, that still confirms one and only one between the two is mafia.

[Roden]

Game: What if you were the Town Vigilante?
Assume, for this game, that there is a 1-shot Town Vigilante, and you were given that power role.  Assume also, that Rolan7 was not modkilled, the setup contains another power role of 1-shot Bulletproof, Rolan7 claimed that role, and was not counterclaimed.
Whom would you kill N2?

I actually would like to think about my answer, since I just came up with the game myself.  I will however say that if I were the 1-shot Town Vigilante, I would be claiming and using my shot N2.  I would most likely be trying to get as much input from town as possible before taking the shot.  I might even defer to the judgment of someone else on whom to kill.  So under this scenario, I wouldn't know, so I guess that is the most honest answer that I can give.

I don't understand the point of this game. If we had a Vig, then the optimal play would be to lynch someone and determine who to shoot at night depending on the flip. Town can't lose in this scenario.

[ToonyMan]

Since I loved Toonyman's game within a game, I created my own.  If you don't want to play, please just tell me so, rather than just ignoring this.

I don't see the point either. There's no vig in this setup so it's a pointless exercise.

[EuchreJack]

Mafia is going to No Kill tonight.

Scum team is Pref and Magma.

Even though Toonyman and I don't get along, both he and Roden are town.  Death of ether tonight confirms the other is town.

FOU and myself are linked in alignment.  If either of us dies tonight, the other is confirmed town.

Ergo, scum team must be Pref and Magma.  They won't kill, so the tracker for next day is borderline useless. 

Tracker can claim, either Pref or Magma counterclaims, we lynch whomever within Pref or Magma does not counterclaim.

I don't see the point in not just voting now tbh. Theoretically, sure, town odds are better to vote no lynch. But in reality all it'll do is cross me off the list and you'll all just be in the same place tomorrow. If a Tracker speaks up they can be safely counter claimed by scum. And in all honesty, if both Jack and Toony are town as I suspect, I don't trust Jack not to make an emotional/rage vote against Toony. The entirety of this game is proof that town!Jack would absolutely do that.

Go review the timing of my voting Toonyman again.  Second I saw any real risk of Toonyman dying, I unvoted them.  Toony's town, while we're hating each other now, we won't throw the game because of it.  Just as long as Toony doesn't try another crazy gambit that I don't understand, that COULD lose us the game.

[Roden]

I don't see the point in not just voting now tbh. Theoretically, sure, town odds are better to vote no lynch. But in reality all it'll do is cross me off the list and you'll all just be in the same place tomorrow. If a Tracker speaks up they can be safely counter claimed by scum. And in all honesty, if both Jack and Toony are town as I suspect, I don't trust Jack not to make an emotional/rage vote against Toony. The entirety of this game is proof that town!Jack would absolutely do that.

While it's true the mafia could CC the Tracker, that still confirms one and only one between the two is mafia.

That's what makes it a crap shoot for me. God forbid this happens between Jack and Pref, as town is just screwed at that point because of how unreadable they are.

I just don't think there's any way FoU isn't scum at this point. Like, yeah, Magma appears to be guaranteed scum going by PoE. But FoU's posts are comparable to porn acting in terms of believability. And when I accused him of scum slipping, he didn't even react to it. Wouldn't town at the very least ask for me to point out which post I'm referring to? Wouldn't town try to defend themself? All he did was ignore and try to bury the claim. That reads like a scum move to me.

[EuchreJack]

I don't see the point in not just voting now tbh. Theoretically, sure, town odds are better to vote no lynch. But in reality all it'll do is cross me off the list and you'll all just be in the same place tomorrow. If a Tracker speaks up they can be safely counter claimed by scum. And in all honesty, if both Jack and Toony are town as I suspect, I don't trust Jack not to make an emotional/rage vote against Toony. The entirety of this game is proof that town!Jack would absolutely do that.

While it's true the mafia could CC the Tracker, that still confirms one and only one between the two is mafia.

That's what makes it a crap shoot for me. God forbid this happens between Jack and Pref, as town is just screwed at that point because of how unreadable they are.

I just don't think there's any way FoU isn't scum at this point. Like, yeah, Magma appears to be guaranteed scum going by PoE. But FoU's posts are comparable to porn acting in terms of believability. And when I accused him of scum slipping, he didn't even react to it. Wouldn't town at the very least ask for me to point out which post I'm referring to? Wouldn't town try to defend themself? All he did was ignore and try to bury the claim. That reads like a scum move to me.

Fine, then I'll help you out.

MAGMA MATER

Also, I'm NOT the tracker or the Jailkeeper.  Happy now?

[EuchreJack]

@TricMagic: Could I get an official votecount? I would like to make sure there isn't another vote going on.  I'm not sure if Roden unvoted FOU.  I would like to be clear at this point.

[EuchreJack]

Roden: Since FOU and myself are teammates, I'd like to see the scumslip with the explanation.  And you're still voting FOU.
If you think Magma Mater is scum, switch to them.  You really don't have to believe me, I could and would totally sell out Magma Mater as scum at this point.

[Magma Mater]

#97 - Web claims OMGUS when Toony says them not mentioning Pref could mean Web/Pref.

Their response is really defensive here. I think it could be them trying to incriminate a town!Pref with them if they're mafia. In other words Web/Pref is less likely. They use the term OMGUS incorrectly, but everybody does so kind of moot.

Alternate theory: it's a real slip, and webadict got so angry at himself for making such a basic mistake that he decided to quit mafia forever.