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Author Topic: Magnum Opus: Welcome Home.  (Read 131256 times)

Ozarck

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Re: Magnum Opus: Welcome Home.
« Reply #1635 on: June 11, 2022, 10:10:55 pm »

"This is why our Cauldron is defective. I'm going to escort the Artisan to his workspace. If the ants want to cooperate ((I just heard a car crash. That sucks. Didn't sound super serious, but there was definitely some vehicular damage involved.))" I am willing to direct the Artisan to work within certain limits, so long as both parties needs can be reasonably taken into account. ((several emergency vehicles are going along. Can't exactly tell if any are headed to the crash just now. sounds like they are going further away. Besides, that would be a surprisingly quick response ... hmm, one siren just cut off. maybe they did come to the accident after all.))

Ask the Artisan if it can arrange the navigation station in such a way that it would be pleasant or useful for the ants, and ask how much margin for error there is in terms of where the station needs to be located.

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« Reply #1636 on: June 12, 2022, 01:29:56 am »

Ho! Ho! Ho!  That’s very interesting, but I think we should consult the plaque by the portal, first.”, Hugh states as he begins to think.


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« Reply #1637 on: June 12, 2022, 04:38:11 am »

"That's a pretty petty sounding reason to start killing each other, also this kind of crap doesn't really seem like something we should be bothering with, so anyone got any ideas as to what I can tell this guy so the artisan can do his job?"
Tell the ants what Genesis said HERE.
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Re: Magnum Opus: Welcome Home.
« Reply #1638 on: June 12, 2022, 01:19:26 pm »

"Ask him if there is something they'd like built but are unable to themselves. Perhaps the Artisan can pay for access with labor. A warming chamber for their egglings, or a brushing station to help clean their carapaces or something. A water filtration station maybe.. Hmm maybe the Artisan can arrange the planetary navigation station in such a way that it is a pleasant place for the ants. Solve two problems: give the ants something they want, and ensure they have reason to maintain it after it's complete, rather than looting it for parts or whatever."

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Re: Magnum Opus: Welcome Home.
« Reply #1639 on: June 13, 2022, 02:56:35 am »

"Ask him if there is something they'd like built but are unable to themselves. Perhaps the Artisan can pay for access with labor. A warming chamber for their egglings, or a brushing station to help clean their carapaces or something. A water filtration station maybe.. Hmm maybe the Artisan can arrange the planetary navigation station in such a way that it is a pleasant place for the ants. Solve two problems: give the ants something they want, and ensure they have reason to maintain it after it's complete, rather than looting it for parts or whatever."

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"Sounds pretty good I'll tell him what you said."
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Re: Magnum Opus: Welcome Home
« Reply #1640 on: June 15, 2022, 11:40:04 pm »

"According to my knowledge, if this maintenance isn't done, the world may eventually be in grave danger, by straying from its course. I don't know the time frame, or if it could be corrected, but it sounds like a severe consequence if the ants refuse to cooperate. Also, might the ants be pleased of the redirection was done with their preferred octagonal system?"

Aaron asks the Artisan if there is some flexibility in the visual design of the redirection node.


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Re: Magnum Opus: Welcome Home.
« Reply #1641 on: June 16, 2022, 09:04:03 am »

"According to my knowledge, if this maintenance isn't done, the world may eventually be in grave danger, by straying from its course. I don't know the time frame, or if it could be corrected, but it sounds like a severe consequence if the ants refuse to cooperate. Also, might the ants be pleased of the redirection was done with their preferred octagonal system?"

Aaron asks the Artisan if there is some flexibility in the visual design of the redirection node.


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Visually, yes. Mechanically no. It does, in the end, not matter what the node looks like.

"That's a pretty petty sounding reason to start killing each other, also this kind of crap doesn't really seem like something we should be bothering with, so anyone got any ideas as to what I can tell this guy so the artisan can do his job?"
Tell the ants what Genesis said HERE.
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"This is why our Cauldron is defective. I'm going to escort the Artisan to his workspace. If the ants want to cooperate ((I just heard a car crash. That sucks. Didn't sound super serious, but there was definitely some vehicular damage involved.))" I am willing to direct the Artisan to work within certain limits, so long as both parties needs can be reasonably taken into account. ((several emergency vehicles are going along. Can't exactly tell if any are headed to the crash just now. sounds like they are going further away. Besides, that would be a surprisingly quick response ... hmm, one siren just cut off. maybe they did come to the accident after all.))

Ask the Artisan if it can arrange the navigation station in such a way that it would be pleasant or useful for the ants, and ask how much margin for error there is in terms of where the station needs to be located.

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The artisan can make something like that; though "navigation station" is kind of a vague term.  He seems to understand what you're hinting at: Hiding the node within something created for the ants. At least that is what he's taking from your questions. He seems on board with such deception.

Meanwhile Debby asks about anything they can trade for access. Well, things that don't include murder and do include buildings.  Lud seems rather annoyed and exasperated by this but says he will consider it. He tells you to ask his war minister if there are any battlements or the like which need construction.

The smug, small ant seems ready to guide you to the right place.

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Re: Magnum Opus: Welcome Home.
« Reply #1642 on: June 17, 2022, 01:56:13 am »

"Okay guys we gotta go talk to the war minister and see what he needs so we can get this thing built."
Follow the smug ant to where the war minister is/
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« Reply #1643 on: June 18, 2022, 10:09:39 pm »

Hugh shrugs his shoulders and follows Debbie.


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« Reply #1644 on: June 19, 2022, 02:53:09 pm »

While i am not opposed to deception in this case, I meant more "make the planetary navigation grid installation actually provide a direct benefit to the ants so they actively want to keep it operational," rather than hiding it from them or making it against their interests. If the ants want it to be there, then everyone wins. But hiding it and building some ant-themed structure around it is fine too. Meanwhile, follow the smug ant to the war ant.

"These ants, and the Artisan, are all clearly insane, magically defective, and nearly as much a threat to the balance of magic as they are a benefit. They remind me of you lot."

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Re: Magnum Opus: Welcome Home
« Reply #1645 on: June 23, 2022, 11:34:07 pm »

Aaron contemplatively follows the others.




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Re: Magnum Opus: Welcome Home.
« Reply #1646 on: June 27, 2022, 08:11:21 am »

Hugh shrugs his shoulders and follows Debbie.


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((What would happen if I were to pull the string to teleport to Aa Tou Tou Lesia?  Would that take me back to our cave?))
While i am not opposed to deception in this case, I meant more "make the planetary navigation grid installation actually provide a direct benefit to the ants so they actively want to keep it operational," rather than hiding it from them or making it against their interests. If the ants want it to be there, then everyone wins. But hiding it and building some ant-themed structure around it is fine too. Meanwhile, follow the smug ant to the war ant.

"These ants, and the Artisan, are all clearly insane, magically defective, and nearly as much a threat to the balance of magic as they are a benefit. They remind me of you lot."

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Aaron contemplatively follows the others.




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"Okay guys we gotta go talk to the war minister and see what he needs so we can get this thing built."
Follow the smug ant to where the war minister is/
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The war minister-name of Zol- is a lot like the patriarch, though slightly smaller and with less workers fawning over him. He, like the patriarch, launches off on a long monolog about while his house is the best, why every other house is garbage, why they will get everyone killed, and so forth. When asked about what he needs constructed, so that the group might move on to construct the actual building they need to make, he instead tells the group to kill someone else. When the group politely declines, he asks them to kill the Lud, the Patriarch, so that he might usurp Lud's position. They decline this as well. With weary patience Zol sends the group off to one of his underlings with similar demands as Lud originally gave: find out something that needs to be built.  This pattern continues down 4 more successive branches of Ant Bureaucracy, with each ant asking first for the death of an ant from another house, then the death of his direct superior, then foists the group off on another underling.   The pattern finally ends when they are speaking to a larva caretaker who asks them to convince Lud to send the caretakers more food, because the "Squirmers go hungry".

Its round about here, as the team begins to see the positive side of murdering ants, that the artisan chimes in. He explains that these creatures were made by the same Magi that made him. She is fickle and a lover of the arts in all kinds, but not impractical. She wouldn't create a race which could not complete its tasks. This apparent malaise and murderous infighting must serve a purpose. There must be a trigger or a method which would mobilize the ants and grant him the freedom he needs. He suggests that perhaps the key lies in tricking them to use their technical zealotry for the team's purpose.

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« Reply #1647 on: June 28, 2022, 04:48:54 am »

"For fucks sake what's with these ants every one of them wants some other ant dead, at least if we can't come up with some way to trick them killing one is still an option that'd work."
Talk with the team and see what we can come up with.
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Make sure not to step on any errant blood stains before we find our LIFE EXTINGUSHER.
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Re: Magnum Opus: Welcome Home.
« Reply #1648 on: June 28, 2022, 09:48:48 pm »

"Good question. Apparently their Mage set them up to be like this. Maybe it's a form of power limitation through recycling - if one gets too powerful and begins to unbalance the system, it is toppled by a weaker one that grows into the position.

If we're going to trick them, then the only suggestion I have is to disguise the Artisan's structure so the ants don't recognize or care that it is there. Maybe we have to distract them for a while so the Artisan can get to work. Perhaps some of us could go to that Partriarch's opponent and warn them of impending conflict. stir the pot and get these ants distracted by the fight for a while.

I am not really a very cunning person, so trickery isn't my forte. I'm more likely to suggest brute force."

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Re: Magnum Opus: Welcome Home.
« Reply #1649 on: June 28, 2022, 11:53:03 pm »

Ho! Ho! Ho!  And I’d like to check the plaque by the portal!
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