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[IcyTea31]

How about the following as mechanically possible?

Caz/Lucky/Blu

Vector/Web; SK Blu (unlikely due to kill flavour)

4mask/Lucky/Blu

Web/Lucky (peek Vector N1, convert Lucky N2; Blu third-party; town!Lucky would have lied about accepting the devil deal, and doesn't explain Blu chainsawing Lucky, so unlikely)

Toony/Lucky/Blu (unless I missed the wizard claim being somehow confirmed)

[Caz]

How about the following as mechanically possible?

Caz/Lucky/Blu

Vector/Web; SK Blu (unlikely due to kill flavour)

4mask/Lucky/Blu

Web/Lucky (peek Vector N1, convert Lucky N2; Blu third-party; town!Lucky would have lied about accepting the devil deal, and doesn't explain Blu chainsawing Lucky, so unlikely)

Toony/Lucky/Blu (unless I missed the wizard claim being somehow confirmed)

But from your point of view, Vector has to be scum due to lying about their actions?

[IcyTea31]

But from your point of view, Vector has to be scum due to lying about their actions?

There's no lie, as long as Jim is a valid warlock target even without a grave, which is something I'm currently waiting for an answer from Meph on. Looking at the possibilities, however, Vector is only scum in two unlikely scenarios: there being two devils or Blu being an SK with strange kill flavour.

[Caz]

Ok, so if Meph confirms that then we are still unsure about the possibilities for magus. So are we lynching Blu today and hoping for more information to crop up in the night's actions?

[IcyTea31]

So are we lynching Blu today and hoping for more information to crop up in the night's actions?

I don't have a problem with that, though there's still plenty of Day left to see how things go from here once the other players who were waiting for me to post see me.

[ToonyMan]

I mean, Meph probably isn't going to tell us stuff about third-parties, I tried that earlier and it didn't work.

So what was your game plan? Convert Lucky and hope for the best?

Lucky and Blue are confirmed newb scum and it's Dark Magus flavor so there can only be one more scum. Vector and IcyTea's claims contradict. Webadict's claim clears Vector. IcyTea is mechanically confirmed Magus.

Icytea

[IcyTea31]

Vector and IcyTea's claims contradict. Webadict's claim clears Vector.

Vector's claim: communed with Blu N1, communed with Jim N2.
Webadict's claim: followed Vector to Blu's grave N1, was blocked N2.
My claim: Blu's grave was disturbed N1, no graves were disturbed N2; Jim has no grave to disturb.

Whether Jim can be communed with without disturbing his nonexistent grave is in fact the linchpin here. If the answer is yes, there is no contradiction. If the answer is no, Vector is lying in a way that webadict can't clear.

[ToonyMan]

Why didn't you have Blue fake-confirm the block on Webadict? You would know about it beforehand so you could be ready to fake-claim it, but Blue's actions look completely unrehearsed. We probably would have figured it out still but we wouldn't have been able to link Blue to Lucky as much. I'm finding it extremely doubtful that Blue is SK.

The price of newbs is a large sacrifice indeed...

[ToonyMan]

@IcyTea:
Doesn't that mean that Webadict is confirming that Vector isn't the Dark Magus if Vector went to Blue on N1?

[4maskwolf]

For a moment you see his true form before you. A hellish Devil, surely sent from the underworld to perform dark deeds during these uncertain times.

With a roiling cloud of black smoke he vanishes from sight, leaving only the thick smell of brimstone hanging in the air.

I went back and checked the flavor and it looks like Devils indeed leave no bodies, or are at least flavored to.

So at least that part seems to check out.

[IcyTea31]

@IcyTea:
Doesn't that mean that Webadict is confirming that Vector isn't the Dark Magus if Vector went to Blue on N1?

Yes, except in the world where webadict is the Dark Magus and converted Vector.

[ToonyMan]

How would Vector visit Blue's grave on N1 if they're Dark Magus? Web and Vector can't both be lying.

[4maskwolf]

I'm inclined to believe Icy isn't the Dark Magus because if he is he went with the hard way on the claim (directly counterclaiming Vector when he could just say they visited Jim's grave) which isn't what you do as a wolf with two outed buddies.

[Caz]

@IcyTea:
Doesn't that mean that Webadict is confirming that Vector isn't the Dark Magus if Vector went to Blue on N1?

Yes, except in the world where webadict is the Dark Magus and converted Vector.

If web and Vector are the scumteam then WTF are Lucky and Blu??

[ToonyMan]

@IcyTea:
Doesn't that mean that Webadict is confirming that Vector isn't the Dark Magus if Vector went to Blue on N1?

Yes, except in the world where webadict is the Dark Magus and converted Vector.

Okay...so how are Lucky and Blue both mafia? Are you saying Lucky's res failed so hard that Blue flipped to mafia?