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[Superdorf]

I thought about it.
Then I slept on it.
Then I thought about it some more.

I've looked at the cases laid, and come to my decision. It's time to bring this game full circle.

webadict: Why am I voting you right now?

[notquitethere]

Guess I'll hammer Webadict then.

omae wa mou shindeiru

[Skynet]

Once more, the mob roared into action before the Hammering vote was cast. webadict was terminated.

The medical tests show webadict to be a human. webadict’s pockets also possessed Eco Party propaganda, written by Wendy Dorest.

webadict was terminated.
Player Name: webadict. Role Name: Wendy Dorset, Bodyguard. "Eco Party"-Aligned.

Then the power went out. This time, the Resistance agents sprung into action, murdering the remainder of the anti-Resistance mob.

Vector was endgamed.
Player Name: Vector. Role Name: Dr. Serena Kogan, Seducer/Double Voter. Hybrid-Aligned.

Secretdorf was endgamed.
Player Name: Secertdorf. Role Name: TS-300, Vanilla Townie. Terminator-Aligned.

By the time the lights turn on, the Eco Party snipers have been arrested or terminated by the police. They arrive to the Tech Noir and start moving the Resistance agents to a safe location, escorting them to their dark fate.

The next day, the massacre became a media sensation. The American public was shocked by the ultra-violence at the Tech Noir and the appearance of a new, sudden threat to their safety. Military spending increase. The generals consider how to answer the ‘Nightclub Question’. They conclude that only an fully-automated defense system would be the most efficient way to counter this new threat. And we all know what happens next...

Resistance has won!
You win when the Resistance players equals the non-Resistance players...or nothing can be done to prevent the same.

Player Name: Superdorf. Role Name: Kyle Reese, Roleblocker. Resistance-Aligned.
Player Name: notquitethere. Role Name: Sarah Connor, Serial Killer. Resistance-Aligned.

I’ll post Role PMs, quicktopics, and night actions when I gain access to my home computer. If I ever run a sequel, I will make sure roleflips are accurate - the possibility of inaccurate roleflips really hurt Town far more than I thought it would.

[ToonyMan]

Town you guys are dumb.

[FallacyofUrist]

Well that was fast.

(My roleflip was fake, though. I wasn't actually Resistance, so I didn't win. For everyone's information.)

[4maskwolf]

Well that was fast.

(My roleflip was fake, though. I wasn't actually Resistance, so I didn't win. For everyone's information.)

What was you real role?

[FallacyofUrist]

Well that was fast.

(My roleflip was fake, though. I wasn't actually Resistance, so I didn't win. For everyone's information.)

What was you real role?

I was Skynet. The AI, not the mod. Survivor wincon. My watcher ability was completely true however.

[ToonyMan]

I thought Vector and NQT were mafia because Vector was so "convinced" by FOU's miller flip when they died at night.

MAFIA WOULD BE THE ONE THAT KILLED FOU AT NIGHT. THAT MEANS THEY'RE NOT MAFIA.

I'll post my PM I sent Skynet at the start of the game in a bit.

NQT was obvscum pushing the idea that today wasn't lylo when it CLEARLY WAS.

[4maskwolf]

That's a lot of competing parties.

[Superdorf]

That was fun! Thanks for having me, folks

If I ever run a sequel, I will make sure roleflips are accurate - the possibility of inaccurate roleflips really hurt Town far more than I thought it would.

Yeahhh... the fact that we could still cast aspersions on TricMagic and Luckyowl even after they flipped town kept a lot of heat off the scumteam. I feel sorry for webadict, he struggled mightily to reconcile some of the town-squabbles going on D2.

[TricMagic]

I can point to the Seducer as the one who ruined things. Just cause you don't win when SC is lynched is not a reason to screw the rest over by avoiding scum.

[Vector]

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

NQT!! It was you! I tried to seduce Secretdorf 2 nights in a row!!!

Well ... at least ecofash didn't win ...

I can point to the Seducer as the one who ruined things. Just cause you don't win when SC is lynched is not a reason to screw the rest over by avoiding scum.

Oh, good point, I should play against my own wincon next time

[FallacyofUrist]

I'd like to comment on the survivor wincon while I'm at it. The 'correct' way to play it would be to lay low, hang back, and play semi-passively. Avoiding attracting attention. But even if it was optimal, it wouldn't have been fun. I put all my cards on the table, and got shot for it. But I had much more fun playing an active, scum-hunting survivor than I would have had playing a passive survivor.

And if you can incentivize that type of play with any third party roles you design, I think it creates a more interesting game.

[ToonyMan]

Spoiler: My guess on the setup before the game started (click to show/hide)

Most of my thoughts are either from:
1. Watching the movie.
2. Your post here.

Assuming there's one third-party, the setup looks something like this:

Terminator, goal kill
Terminator, goal kill
Terminator, goal kill
Terminator, goal seduce
Terminator, goal seduce
Terminator, goal seduce
Sarah Connor
Kyle Reese
The Other Sarah Connor from the Phone Book

The third-party would serve as a distraction that the Terminators need to avoid. If there's no third-party then add in another Terminator although I don't know which side they would be on.

I believe Sarah and Kyle would be able to communicate with each other privately in quicktopic like standard mafia.

I assume the Terminators don't know who their allies are. I'm also not sure how they will achieve their goals of either killing or seducing Sarah Connor.

If this game also includes elements from Terminator 2 then I could see there being a terminator on the mafia side, but this looks like a purely Terminator 1 affair.

Spoiler: Skynet's response (click to show/hide)

I'm not sure whether you want a spoilspec or if you want to figure it out yourself.

Assuming you do want to figure it out yourself, I can say that the following info is correct:
- There is a third-party individual who is just a distraction the Terminators need to avoid.
- Sarah and Kyle exist in the game and communicate via "quicktopic like standard mafia".
- Sarah and Kyle are the scum.
- Terminators do not know who their allies are.
- There is a faction that only want to kill Sarah Connor...and a faction that only want to seduce Sarah Connor.
- There is no Terminator on the mafia side (I thought about it, but decided against it because it would make the flavor more convoluted than it already is.)

The game is not a purely Terminator 1 affair, which is why I thought about adding the Mafia Terminator. To say what other sources I used though might reveal more about the setup, so I'll be quiet on that unless you want a spoilspec.

Spoiler: My response (click to show/hide)

I'm not sure whether you want a spoilspec or if you want to figure it out yourself.

No that's good enough for me. I hope the players realize that knowing Terminator flavor would help a lot here.

The game is not a purely Terminator 1 affair, which is why I thought about adding the Mafia Terminator. To say what other sources I used though might reveal more about the setup, so I'll be quiet on that unless you want a spoilspec.

I only know the first three movies so unless it's from something like RoboCop then yeah I have no idea.

I'm quite proud of guessing the exact scum team at least. Why did nobody think of Kyle? I don't blame mafia for not revealing anything, but town really should have at least watched the first movie.

[Superdorf]

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