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[webadict]

I'm sure NQT and superdorf are town, that means either Webadict or Vector is Sarah Connor. But, we can't lynch the right person because seducer team are in majority so I propose either we lynch one of web or Vector to clear them or we lynch no one. If we lynch the wrong person out of web and vector, seducer team seduce the other person, we win. Or we do it less sure way, that is. We lynch no one today. Seduce who you think is Sarah Connor. However, if they aren't, then lynch nobody tomorrow either. Then, tomorrow night seduce the remaining person. Sure win. Of course, SC will kill one of us each night.

I see.

So are you on the Seducer team now?

[webadict]

I see I appear to have no idea what's happening this game.

Anyone want to explain what the fuck's happening?

[Vector]

Webadict is what's going on.

[Superdorf]

explain

Uff. We mostly know that there's stuff we don't know.

- Fallacy was nightkilled, but flipped scum. Bit of a startle, that, but (as you mention) it'd fit nicely with his claim D1.
- Tric was (apparently) roleblocked N1, but flipped vanilla townie D2. The question there, being (if I understand): how did he know he was roleblocked if he didn't perform an action that Night? Could be a false flip.

Did Fallacy know anything special about "something weird going on with the lynched", or was that just the conclusion he drew from Tric's flip?

I am so obviously not Sarah Connor that it's actually kinda silly that I have to defend myself. I literally would've killed Vector if I was.

...by that logic, wouldn't the real Sarah Connor also have killed Vector? The claimed seducer?
Or are you saying Vector's Sarah Connor?

TricMagic was my big scum-read yesterday, and a lot of the seducer arguings went over my head then... I'll have to re-read and figure out where I stand on the matter.

Secretdorf: How many people do you think are Resistance-aligned right now?

[webadict]

I only have one thing to say anymore.

I am not the Sarah Connor.

[Vector]

yeah yeah, you're a sarah connor, we know.

[Secretdorf]

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explain

Uff. We mostly know that there's stuff we don't know.

- Fallacy was nightkilled, but flipped scum. Bit of a startle, that, but (as you mention) it'd fit nicely with his claim D1.
- Tric was (apparently) roleblocked N1, but flipped vanilla townie D2. The question there, being (if I understand): how did he know he was roleblocked if he didn't perform an action that Night? Could be a false flip.

Did Fallacy know anything special about "something weird going on with the lynched", or was that just the conclusion he drew from Tric's flip?

I am so obviously not Sarah Connor that it's actually kinda silly that I have to defend myself. I literally would've killed Vector if I was.

...by that logic, wouldn't the real Sarah Connor also have killed Vector? The claimed seducer?
Or are you saying Vector's Sarah Connor?

TricMagic was my big scum-read yesterday, and a lot of the seducer arguings went over my head then... I'll have to re-read and figure out where I stand on the matter.

Secretdorf: How many people do you think are Resistance-aligned right now?

I think web is Sarah Connor. And no other resistance aligned people as the other three of you(vector, superdorf, NQT) are seducing team. However, if web isn't I'm sure its vector. So in case after web not flipping SC and I being NKed, I'd say its vector. Webadict, next time it'll be red. But, first Webadict, claim any information you have and who you were referring to when you said you know who is Sarah Connor.

[Secretdorf]

I only have one thing to say anymore.

I am not the Sarah Connor.

Who is, if you aren't? It makes me think you are resistance aligned, when you say that you aren't Sarah Connor but you know who is, but don't tell us who?

[notquitethere]

I'm not sure I'm that convinced by the WIFOM from Web about how he would have killed Vector. A scum!web would have know Vector could have been watched by Fallacy. Moreover, I don't see how it's town-sided for Web to say he knows who Sarah is but he's not saying. It's pretty obvious that Wuba is either Sarah or another 3rd party.

Vector you have mechanical information. I'd like to know it.

I'm inclined to believe Fallacy that there really was a false flip with Tric. And if Sarah killed Fallacy, he could be a false flip too (he claimed he would flip as human after all, this isn't really a surprise).

Holding off on voting to see if anyone comes up with some hard information.

[webadict]

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explain

Uff. We mostly know that there's stuff we don't know.

- Fallacy was nightkilled, but flipped scum. Bit of a startle, that, but (as you mention) it'd fit nicely with his claim D1.
- Tric was (apparently) roleblocked N1, but flipped vanilla townie D2. The question there, being (if I understand): how did he know he was roleblocked if he didn't perform an action that Night? Could be a false flip.

Did Fallacy know anything special about "something weird going on with the lynched", or was that just the conclusion he drew from Tric's flip?

I am so obviously not Sarah Connor that it's actually kinda silly that I have to defend myself. I literally would've killed Vector if I was.

...by that logic, wouldn't the real Sarah Connor also have killed Vector? The claimed seducer?
Or are you saying Vector's Sarah Connor?

TricMagic was my big scum-read yesterday, and a lot of the seducer arguings went over my head then... I'll have to re-read and figure out where I stand on the matter.

Secretdorf: How many people do you think are Resistance-aligned right now?

I think web is Sarah Connor. And no other resistance aligned people as the other three of you(vector, superdorf, NQT) are seducing team. However, if web isn't I'm sure its vector. So in case after web not flipping SC and I being NKed, I'd say its vector. Webadict, next time it'll be red. But, first Webadict, claim any information you have and who you were referring to when you said you know who is Sarah Connor.

The problem with that logic is threefold:

1) If I was Sarah Connor, Vector wouldn't be voting to lynch me.
2) Any information I give out won't save me from a lynch. Only lying does, and really, that would be silly.
3) There's only two Seducers left. Luckyowl was the third.

@NQT: Nah, I told FoU who I thought was sent the same information. If they watched someone, it would have been them. I would have removed Vector for sure because they're gonna permavote me. Blah blah blah.

Honestly, no idea what's even happening.

[Secretdorf]

Yeah, the weird thing is that Vector is voting to lynch webadict. Which means either Vector thinks web is not SC or he is SC and doesn't want to be lynched. I am pretty sure that vector said that they flip purple, how does that mean LO was a seducer?

[notquitethere]

Well clearly Vector doesn't think Web is SC otherwise they wouldn't have voted him.

The tricky thing is, it's probably LYLO tomorrow, so if Vector is still alive and doesn't succeed in seducing Sarah tonight, we'll pretty much be lost as they're not going to help (assuming they're telling the truth).

As such, a Vector lynch might be best: if V is Sarah running wild with a fakeclaim, then that's great; if V is just a seducer then at least we're not guaranteed to lose at LYLO.

This puzzling out wincons is a headache.

[Secretdorf]

Alright, we lynch Vector today. The other seducer can still seduce, right?

[notquitethere]

Yeah best case scenario we seduce Sarah in the night if we don't hit her today.

[Secretdorf]

Yeah best case scenario we seduce Sarah in the night if we don't hit her today.

Yes, but who do we lynch who is less likely to be Sarah so they're cleared and you seduce the other.