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[Superdorf]

our "flagbearer".

Our "flagbearer"? Sure you don't mean their flagbearer, Luckyowl?

As I said I think we're dealing with a human and a rogue machine as it would fit the whole terminator theme quite well. But just like the movie. Sarah is the true target. The other two will just get in our way to kill her or seduce her.

Hrm, perhaps... three scum is a bit much in a nine-player game though. Two scum and a wildcard maybe?
That's idle speculation though. Where's your scum-hunting, where's your fire?

Also, I'm green machine with no night action.

Flavor claim, Lucky-- not roleclaim. You got some fancy machine-styled narrative in your role PM, right?

[Secretdorf]

I voted FallacyofUrist but my vote was still on Caz.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Examine corpses

Most of the corpses are civilians that are "natives" of this time period, containing the usual gadgets and tools that you would expect an 1980's human to carry. However, a few corpses possessed documents dating from the post-apocalyptic future - and the rhetoric in those documents bear a close resemblance to literature that was previously mass-produced by the Eco Party and the cult-like Hybrids.

There does appear to be inconsistencies with the various documents, which could be chalked up to them being written in different timelines. However, they generally tell the same tale: A human swore loyalty to Skynet (believing that they will be "Skynet's favorite" and thus given mercy) only for Skynet to betray them because they were too much of a security risk. The human managed to stay underground long enough for Skynet to "go dark", stole a time machine in the chaotic aftermath, and traveled back in time.

They thought that fleeing the future would make them safe. They thought they could establish a new life here, and escape their fate. How optimistic.

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Caz: Secretdorf (1)
FallacyofUrist: Vector, TricMagic (2)
Luckyowl: ---
notquitethere: ---
Secretdorf: NQT, FoU (2)
Superdorf: Caz (1)
TricMagic: Superdorf (1)
Vector: ---
webadict: ---

5 votes to hammer.
Day 1's Deadline: Tuesday,  February 9th 2021, 8:41 AM, GMT.

hopefully I got this right

Thanks for the unofficial votecount by the way. It's very helpful.

I voted Luckyowl but my vote is still on Caz. Is something wrong...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Skynet can we

Examine each other?

Each of you appear to be human beings. One looks like a bartender, another looks like a businessperson, a third looks like the local DJ...and the rest appear to be average customers. This should not be surprising. If you're a machine, you had to pretend to be a "native" to get to this place. If you're a human, you have to pretend to be a machine - and that meant pretending to be a "native".

Your disguises are able to fool the uninitiated "natives". However, if someone came from the future with the proper training, they may be able to inspect you and prove (or disprove) your machine origins. Even inspections may not work effectively, as the local DJ claimed. But even unreliable information is better than no information.

Go look around the Nightclub for evidence of Machine necessities needed for a Machine barkeep.

You are able to find a backroom that simulates human necessities, but has a switch that can convert into a 'machine depot' that handles machine necessities. So a robotic bartender was present in this building. Of course, machines know that evidence can be deceiving. The best fakeclaim rely on half-truths to be convincing.

What if somebody killed the Machine barkeep and assumed their identity? Or if somebody knew that the Machine barkeep existed, knew they  would die here, and then easily step into that role, knowing that no living bartender could contradict them?

But maybe that's just idle speculation, not really relevant to finding the truth of the matter.

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Caz: Secretdorf (1)
FallacyofUrist: TricMagic (1)
Luckyowl: Caz (1)
notquitethere: ---
Secretdorf: FoU (1)
Superdorf: —
TricMagic: ---
Vector: NQT (1)
webadict: ---

5 votes to hammer.
Day 1's Deadline: Tuesday,  February 9th 2021, 8:41 AM, GMT.

[Luckyowl]

yes, I think there is a three person "scumteam". Where two of the players are irrelevant to our wincon and Sarah as our "flagbearer". As I said I think we're dealing with a human and a rogue machine as it would fit the whole terminator theme quite well. But just like the movie. Sarah is the true target. The other two will just get in our way to kill her or seduce her.

Also, I'm green machine with no night action.

. . . Ok. LuckyOwl is scum, and not the fun kind. I've played enough games with town Lucky to be convinced that this ain't it.

Down ya go.

Vector: RVS this late in? Could you explain to me why you are voting me? SD wanted explanation I gave my explanation. I did say our target is Sarah Connor. But are you trying ignore the fact that we might have two other players who's job is to fuck us over? You said you're looking for the scum but yet you choose an easy lynch. Pretty scumming of you Vector.

[Superdorf]

Oh wait, is Lucky at L-1?
Blegh, let's not risk the hammer just yet-- unvote. I'll go with the traditional finger until Skynet confirms the votecount.

[Skynet]

Is something wrong...

Yeah, I made a mod error with the Official Votecount. Let me recalculate the votecount again, and repost it.

[Luckyowl]

As I said I think we're dealing with a human and a rogue machine as it would fit the whole terminator theme quite well. But just like the movie. Sarah is the true target. The other two will just get in our way to kill her or seduce her.

Hrm, perhaps... three scum is a bit much in a nine-player game though. Two scum and a wildcard maybe?
That's idle speculation though. Where's your scum-hunting, where's your fire?

Also, I'm green machine with no night action.

Flavor claim, Lucky-- not roleclaim. You got some fancy machine-styled narrative in your role PM, right?

true, probably two scum team and a wildcard.


uh, no. that's my roleclaim. I am town aligned terminator. Green machine.

[Superdorf]

Right. We are asking for your flavorclaim-- a brief paraphrase of whatever flavor-text you got in your role PM.

Are you unwilling to offer us that? Unable?

[Vector]

Vector: RVS this late in? Could you explain to me why you are voting me? SD wanted explanation I gave my explanation. I did say our target is Sarah Connor. But are you trying ignore the fact that we might have two other players who's job is to fuck us over? You said you're looking for the scum but yet you choose an easy lynch. Pretty scumming of you Vector.

Nice OMGUS, kid.

I'm voting because you either have information about Sarah that no one else has and aren't giving it for some reason (very not pro-town) or you have information about Sarah that no one has because you aren't pro-town.

I don't buy your fakeclaim.

I don't buy your lurking. You were here earlier in the game but not posting. And I don't buy that "you didn't read your PM" bullshit.

[Vector]

Crap. Well, you can all figure out how the quote tags were supposed to work on that. Here's a repost:

Vector: RVS this late in? Could you explain to me why you are voting me? SD wanted explanation I gave my explanation. I did say our target is Sarah Connor. But are you trying ignore the fact that we might have two other players who's job is to fuck us over? You said you're looking for the scum but yet you choose an easy lynch. Pretty scumming of you Vector.

Nice OMGUS, kid.

I'm voting because you either have information about Sarah that no one else has and aren't giving it for some reason (very not pro-town) or you have information about Sarah that no one has because you aren't pro-town.

I don't buy your fakeclaim.

I don't buy your lurking. You were here earlier in the game but not posting. And I don't buy that "you didn't read your PM" bullshit.

[Superdorf]

Heh, just for the record Lucky...

SD wanted explanation I gave my explanation.

Taken out of context, this could refer to either of two players now

[Luckyowl]

Vector: RVS this late in? Could you explain to me why you are voting me? SD wanted explanation I gave my explanation. I did say our target is Sarah Connor. But are you trying ignore the fact that we might have two other players who's job is to fuck us over? You said you're looking for the scum but yet you choose an easy lynch. Pretty scumming of you Vector.

Nice OMGUS, kid.

I'm voting because you either have information about Sarah that no one else has and aren't giving it for some reason (very not pro-town) or you have information about Sarah that no one has because you aren't pro-town.

I don't buy your fakeclaim.

I don't buy your lurking. You were here earlier in the game but not posting. And I don't buy that "you didn't read your PM" bullshit.

nah, I'm hundo percent town. Just a vinilla one.

Right. We are asking for your flavorclaim-- a brief paraphrase of whatever flavor-text you got in your role PM.

Are you unwilling to offer us that? Unable?

I just read through my PM. I guess I am an anti-terminator terminator tasked to hunt down rouge machines.

[Superdorf]

An... anti-terminator terminator? 

What's your wincon?

[Vector]

Is . . . Sarah Connor a rogue machine? Um >_>

[TricMagic]

Is something wrong...

Yeah, I made a mod error with the Official Votecount. Let me recalculate the votecount again, and repost it.

Mamobo is around, ask webadict. Who better than a machine to count the votes made by machines.

[FallacyofUrist]

Nope nope nope. Not dealing with that. Luckyowl. And the only reason I'm not voting right now is because I don't want to have a premature hammer get snuck in.