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[TricMagic]

IC: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=175801.0


Welcom to the world of Fantasy. This world's dungeons are strange, holding both monsters and treasure. You brave 6 have, for one reason or another, joined up with the Etrian Guild.

The Etrian Guild is all about finding new dungeons to explore, and from Ocei you travel across the ocean to a newly discovered land filled with treasures waiting to be unearthed.

Your job is to travel the land, find new dungeons, and map them, as the Frontier Explorers.


This game is rather simple, a bunch of maps, and your party working together to clear each dungeon. Upon clearing it, you move to the next. Bios aren't too big a deal, as this is more some fun for me and you.

Still, there does need to be a rule to this.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yzy5pptnfv14skj/Players%20Handbook%20v2.3.1.pdf?dl=1
Book of Rules.

Discord for FEF/https://discord.gg/m2NgWqy

Abridged Rulebook with all the flavor taken out.

PTW. Might not be much better but here's an abridged version of the same rules: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dec14o72r9tcw4t/Players%20Handbook%20v2.3.1%20Abridged.pdf?dl=1

Spoiler: Guild Sheet for exploring the Dungeon Hollows (click to show/hide)

Name:
Class: (Starting from First Class.)
Race: (No real mechanical effect)
Character Skill:
Affinity: (Leave Blank)

PF/
PS/
PS//
PS///
 
Preferred Stats:
Weapon Proficiency:

Total Level: 10(Note that you start at Level Ten, with levels being rolled.)
 Level: 10
 
Base Stats / Progression 0/335%

   HP:  (%)
   STR:  (%)
   MAG:  (%)
   SKL:  (%)
   LUK:  (%)
   DEF:  (%)
   RES:  (%)
   SPD:  (%)

   CON:
   AID:
   MOV:
 


 
Inventory
(Leave this blank, weapons/items will be chosen afterwards.)


Bio: (If any. Dreams, motivations. General era is Medieval Fantasy, with magic and dungeons bounties as a focus.)

Spoiler: Map (click to show/hide)

Welcome to New Hollow, population, 100. This is effectively your base camp, with quite a few people of the Etrian Guild supporting your adventure. As this is effectively a game for fun, don't expect too many references, or mugs of any other parties also at work.

As a short introduction, New Hollow has about Twelve Pegasus Knights, 10 Blacksmiths, 24 scholars/associated magic users, and 15 Navymen. The other 49 make up the civilian portions, though each of them can fight.

You can find the Etrian Guild branch to report any findings during the day here. For repairs to your gear, see one of the shops. There is also an Inn and basic Port. More on these later in the game.

Spoiler: Order of Actions (click to show/hide)

From New Hollow, you can repair gear, submit treasures and maps, and scout new dungeons.(The last of which is mostly automatic really)
You can also see the Navymen if you want. As the game progresses, more options may open up, and your range will increase. At the moment, what you see is the current extent of scouting. As well, you will receive Story Quests at times.

Travel/Explore: Basically going to and from your destination. You may end up fighting something on the way. Usually not though. You have a merchant wagon to carry all your stuff.

Dungeon Dive: The main aspect of this game. Dungeons have monsters, beasts, and apparitions(read more human-ish monsters) Usually a bunch of mini-maps, with varying size and floors. And traps. And Chests. The last one is what you are looking for, since dungeons can give good loot.

Return: Back to New Hollow or Forward Camp. Note that in many cases, Dungeon Dives can occur in a row.

Players
Rykvaard of Greanias, Human Knight. (Serious Concentrate)
Virgil, Drow Scavenger. (Glass)
Fiodior Airguard, Elvish Mage. (xelada)
John Chadwick, Human Necromancer. (Shadowclaw777)
Cecile Remaut, Human Pegasus Rider. (Wolfhunter107)
Klara Amelia Noble, Human Trobairitz. (ctsun)


Game now in the creation phase. Make sure to finalize your Weapon and Affinity Choice.
Virgil and Klara Amelia Noble both get 1 from each of their weapon categories. Hidden and Dark for Virgil, and Bow and Staff for Klara Amelia Noble.

[Glass]

...that is a 184 page player's handbook.

Is there a more condensed explanation of the rules for people who are interested in the idea but have A. never played before and B. not much time to try and wrap their head around a very large rulebook?

[ctsun]

PTW. Might not be much better but here's an abridged version of the same rules: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dec14o72r9tcw4t/Players%20Handbook%20v2.3.1%20Abridged.pdf?dl=1

[Glass]

...94 pages.
I suppose that's moderately better.
Even if it does appear that what that means is that half the book was pictures and flavor text.

[TricMagic]

Posted discord and abridged rulebook.

Discord is good for tips, and Mug help. Though It isn't entirely necessary to have the mug done before the sheet, just that they'd be nice to have.

[Haspen]

...94 pages.
I suppose that's moderately better.
Even if it does appear that what that means is that half the book was pictures and flavor text.

It was, because the Character Classes alone take about 3/4? of the handbook.

[Glass]

I am going to try to build a Scavenger character. And I'm going to walk through the various steps.

Spoiler: Let's put this thing in a spoiler though, it's long (click to show/hide)

To start with, the base stats for a Scavenger are:

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HP STR MAG SKL LUK DEF RES SPD CON AID MOV
18  4   3   4   4   2   1   6   7   6   6
I have 4 points to spend, and Scavenger keys mainly off of Skill and Luck, I know. Apparently. I'm still not quite clear how it all works.
I think I'll put two points into Skill, and then a point each into Luck and Speed.

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HP STR MAG SKL LUK DEF RES SPD CON AID MOV
18  4   3   6   5   2   1   7   7   6   6
Ok, now, 330 progression points.
Minimums takes 140 total points, and puts me as such:

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HP  STR MAG SKL LUK DEF RES SPD CON AID MOV
18   4   3   6   5   2   1   7   7   6   6
40   10  10  10  10  10  10  10There's still 190 points left to be spent, and most things can go up to 70 at max.
Ah, and we're skipping the Trainee stage (I think), so that's an extra 5 points to use. Ok. I have 195 points to put in places.

Now, I like Skill, Luck, and Speed, so let's make each of them 50%, at the very least.

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HP  STR MAG SKL LUK DEF RES SPD CON AID MOV
18   4   3   6   5   2   1   7   7   6   6
40   10  10  50  50  10  10  50That takes 120 points, so I have 75 100 left.
(Also, I'd put stuff under Con, Aid, and Move before, so my calcs were off. Nice to know I don't need to allocate to those.)

I don't care as much about health. It can be 50, too - a much smaller investment this time.
Let's also make everything at least 20.

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HP  STR MAG SKL LUK DEF RES SPD CON AID MOV
18   4   3   6   5   2   1   7   7   6   6
50   20  20  50  50  20  20  50That cost us another 50, so I'm at 50 points left.
Let's actually put those at 25.

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HP  STR MAG SKL LUK DEF RES SPD CON AID MOV
18   4   3   6   5   2   1   7   7   6   6
50  25  25  50  50  25  25  5030 points left, cool.

Let's just put another 5 into everything but Resistance and HP. Smart? Maybe not. But if I die, then oh well.

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HP  STR MAG SKL LUK DEF RES SPD CON AID MOV
18   4   3   6   5   2   1   7   7   6   6
50  30  30  55  55  30  25  55...wait, I lost track of the extra 5 from earlier. Cool, let's put that in Resistance.

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HP  STR MAG SKL LUK DEF RES SPD CON AID MOV
18   4   3   6   5   2   1   7   7   6   6
50  30  30  55  55  30  30  55
Alright, I think that's handled.

So, I have:
Weapon Skill: Hidden (D), Dark (D)
Starting Weapon: Iron Dagger or Flux

The dagger (in a vacuum on a frictionless plane would do 4+4 = 8 damage, hit on 99 or 100 (Does Luck(5)/2 round down to 2, or up to 3?), and crit on 13 or less.
Flux, meanwhile, does 6+3 = 9 damage, hits on 84 or 85, crits on 3 or less, and notably has reach, so I can use it from two squares away rather than just 1. I like range.
I'll start with the Flux spell. Daggers can't be that hard to get ahold of, anyway, right?

...I suppose I should look at the actual character sheet.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Name:
Class: Scavenger
Race: (No real mechanical effect)
Character Skill:
Affinity: (Leave Blank)

PF/
PS/
PS//
PS///
 
Preferred Stats: Skill, Luck
Weapon Proficiency: Hidden (D), Dark (D)

Total Level: 10(Note that you start at Level Ten, with levels being rolled.)
 Level: 10
 
Base Stats / Progression 0/335%

   HP: 18 (%) 50
   STR: 4 (%) 30
   MAG: 4 (%) 30
   SKL: 6 (%) 55
   LUK: 5 (%) 55
   DEF: 2 (%) 30
   RES: 1 (%) 30
   SPD: 7 (%) 55

   CON: 7
   AID: 6
   MOV: 6
 
Inventory
(Leave this blank, weapons/items will be chosen afterwards.)


Bio: (If any. Dreams, motivations. General era is Medieval Fantasy, with magic and dungeons bounties as a focus.)

So, ah, apparently starting weapons aren't here. Ok. I also don't know what this whole bit is:

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PF/
PS/
PS//
PS///Anyway, I'll come up with actual character stuff later; it's 3 in the morning here.
If I can get any advice, that'd be wonderful!

PART 2: Ok, I'm awake again, and I know what the personal flaws and skills are, as well as the character skill.
I think I'll take Pass for the character skill. Mobility is nice, and while celerity would be more useful if I have a straight shot to my destination, pass will probably be more effective when combat is actually underway.
As for the personal flaw and skills...
I feel like it makes sense for skill one to be +10 Hit and Evade after moving at least half my speed, and for skill two to be +10 Crit if I attacked last turn.
And the flaw. Hmn.
I'm thinking my guy would be trying to avoid getting locked into combat with any one enemy in particular. So, I'm thinking that if my target attacked me on their turn, I have -2 DMG, and it's time to go strike someone else.

Spoiler: I think all the crunchy stuff should be done now, except for affinity (click to show/hide)

Name:
Class: Scavenger
Race: (No real mechanical effect)
Character Skill: Pass
Affinity: [TBD]

PF/ If the target has attacked the character on their turn, the character loses 2 DMG until their next turn.
PS/ If the character moved more than half their MOV,
PS// If the character has attacked on their previous turn, the character gains +10 Critical until their next turn.
PS///
 
Preferred Stats: Skill, Luck
Weapon Proficiency: Hidden (D), Dark (D)

Total Level: 10(Note that you start at Level Ten, with levels being rolled.)
 Level: 10
 
Base Stats / Progression 0/335%

   HP: 18 (%) 50
   STR: 4 (%) 30
   MAG: 4 (%) 30
   SKL: 6 (%) 55
   LUK: 5 (%) 55
   DEF: 2 (%) 30
   RES: 1 (%) 30
   SPD: 7 (%) 55

   CON: 7
   AID: 6
   MOV: 6
 
Inventory
(Leave this blank, weapons/items will be chosen afterwards.)


Bio: (If any. Dreams, motivations. General era is Medieval Fantasy, with magic and dungeons bounties as a focus.)

[TricMagic]

PF/ If the target has attacked 'this character' on their last turn, the character loses 2 DMG until their next turn.
PF/ If an enemy attacked you during the last Enemy Phase, -2 Damage against that target until the end of the next Enemy Phase.
The second is.. You attacked last turn, so you get +10 Crit for the next two turns.
PS// If the character initiated on the last turn, the character gains +10 Critical until the end of this turn.
This one means you need to have initiated an attack last turn, and you get +10 Crit for this turn.
Though even with that, it would still be too active. But it's the third skill so that gets the pass at least, since those are usually stronger.

Effectively, the PF is written incorrectly to be viable.

> PF/ If the target has attacked the character on their turn, the character loses 2 DMG until their next turn.

|If the target| applies to an enemy you yourself are targeting.
|has attacked the character on their turn|. This states that the enemy you are targeting attacked you on their Enemy Phase.

|the character loses 2 DMG until their next turn.| And this states that by targeting that enemy, you will lose 2 DMG dealt in calculations for the Player Phase and Enemy Phase. But the issue is that a target implies that you yourself are targeting them, meaning it is unlikely to trigger at all.

There are ways to fix this, from changing Target to Enemy, or as written above.


PF/ If the target>[enemy] has attacked this character on their last turn, the character loses 2 DMG until their next turn>[the end of this turn].

By changing Target to Enemy, it means that the condition can trigger on the enemy phase and player phase. The latter half is simply a QoL word change.


PS// If the character has attacked on their previous turn, the character gains +10 Critical until their next turn.

|If the character has attacked on their previous turn| can apply to both initiation and counterattacks.

|the character gains +10 Critical until their next turn.| This case means that the PS will trigger at the start of the turn during Player Phase, and last until the end of the turn after this turn.


PS// If the character has attacked>[initiated an attack] on their previous turn, the character gains +10 Critical until their next turn>[the end of this turn].

Simple enough fix, which means you need to initiate to gain the effect next turn.


Probably best to remember that the GM Rules over things. As written, it would always be active when you take an attack or initiate an attack.


If there are any other GMs who think I am incorrect, go ahead and say so, I'll take it into consideration. I might be fine with a has attacked trigger, and this was just my first impression of the skill. But then, I usually look at all four as a whole before deciding, rather than 1 at a time.

[Glass]

Please remember that I have no idea what I'm doing .-.

Anyway, revised sheet with reworded flaw and skill:

Spoiler: Presumably valid crunch stuff? (click to show/hide)

Name: Virgil
Class: Scavenger
Race: (No real mechanical effect)
Character Skill: Pass
Affinity: [TBD]

PF/ If an enemy attacked you during the last Enemy Phase, -2 Damage against that target until the end of the next Enemy Phase.
PS/ If the character moved more than half their MOV, the character gains +10 Hit and Evade until their next turn
PS// If the character initiated on the last turn, the character gains +10 Critical until the end of this turn.
PS///
 
Preferred Stats: Skill, Luck
Weapon Proficiency: Hidden (D), Dark (D)

Total Level: 10(Note that you start at Level Ten, with levels being rolled.)
 Level: 10
 
Base Stats / Progression 0/335%

   HP: 18 (%) 50
   STR: 4 (%) 30
   MAG: 4 (%) 30
   SKL: 6 (%) 55
   LUK: 5 (%) 55
   DEF: 2 (%) 30
   RES: 1 (%) 30
   SPD: 7 (%) 55

   CON: 7
   AID: 6
   MOV: 6
 
Inventory
(Leave this blank, weapons/items will be chosen afterwards.)


Bio: (If any. Dreams, motivations. General era is Medieval Fantasy, with magic and dungeons bounties as a focus.)

Now I suppose the question is going to be of who this person is.
Can I get my affinity, first, though? I feel like knowing what element my character is aligned with could help me solidify what I want their identity to be.

Also, an explanation of what affinities actually entail would be nice. :p

[TricMagic]

Affineties are rolled for before the game start.

I roll 2d10, and if the second number is the same as the first, reroll that one till it's different.

You then pick from one of those two, or ask for a reroll, in which case the 1d10, with the reroll result being your affinity.

The player must take up an Affinity at the start of the game, but they are not allowed to personally select their own directly. The GM will roll 2 numbers that are directly correlated to an affinity:
 
1 Fire
2 Wind
3 Anima
4 Light
5 Dark
6 Thunder
7 Ice
8 Water
9 Heaven
10 Earth
 
The player must pick one of the two. If neither is to their liking, they can choose to roll a different number. Once rerolled the player can’t change the result, and must stick with the affinity rolled. 
 

Your affinity and that of your support partner affects your support bonuses, as in the book. See Affinity & Supports for info on that.


I'll note that Bios aren't super important for this game, so get a mug and that will mostly be that. Assuming more players appear.

[Glass]

I need someone to make a mug for me .-. I have no idea how to do it and it would probably look like shit if I tried.

Also, I'm thinking my person will be named Virgil.
It's a cool name.

[Tyrant Leviathan]

The only interested class I like is Baron as it reminds me of Al from FMA. Just not used to FEF and well stuff like that.

[TricMagic]

Come join the discord for plenty of help then~ And I'll likely go over the basics as they come up too.

[Furtuka]

ptw

[SeriousConcentrate]

Might as well throw a knight in to guide the new players.

"The dungeons are dangerous, but there is no glory to be won without danger." (Mug credits: Eldritch Abomination for Elfin's eyes, Lenh for the hair/headband combo and part of the collar, NickT for the majority of the clothing. I only did splicing, recoloring, and a tiny bit of editing on the fur on the right side of the neck.)

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Name: Rykvaard of Greanias (Rykve or just Ryk for short)
Class: Knight
Race: Human
Character Skill: Luna
Affinity: (Leave Blank)

PF/ Not A True Knight: When facing an enemy that possesses the Armored skill, Rykve suffers -15 EVA.
PS/ Fight For The Fallen: If an ally is downed during the Enemy Phase, Rykve gains +15 HIT until the following Player Phase ends.
PS// Destroy The Dishonorable: When fighting an enemy that possesses the Lockpick skill, Rykve gains +10 Crit.
PS/// Stand Fast, Even At The Gates Of Hell: If Rykve starts a turn at 10 HP or less, he regains 5 HP.
 
Preferred Stats: DEF, HP
Weapon Proficiency: Crushing (C), Swords (D)

Total Level: 10(Note that you start at Level Ten, with levels being rolled.)
 Level: 10
 
Base Stats / Progression 335/335%

   HP: 22 (70%)
   STR: 5+1 (60%)
   MAG: 0 (0%)
   SKL: 3+2 (60%)
   LUK: 1 (15%)
   DEF: 8 (60%)
   RES: 1+1 (60%)
   SPD: 2 (10%)

   CON: 9
   AID: 8
   MOV: 5
 


 
Inventory
(Leave this blank, weapons/items will be chosen afterwards.)


Bio: A young squire from the noble house Greanias, Rykve was tasked to prove his worth and to earn his knighthood. To this end, he has joined the Etrian Guild to make a name for himself and bring whatever treasures he may find in the dungeons back to his lord.

Also got bored, did two things. First is a small battle token made from an Ike by Iscaneus, just to show off Rykve's surcoat and house colors (blue and red, so original ) and the other is a map sprite I cobbled together from vanilla assets.