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[Starver]

Just make sure you get the radioactive serum!  Ideally delivered by the bite of some useful creature.

[MrRoboto75]

Just make sure you get the radioactive serum!  Ideally delivered by the bite of some useful creature.

My eyes! The goggles, they do nothing!

[LordBaal]

Dont worry, is not real acid.

-Its the acid ready?!!!

[Vector]

I supposedly qualify to be vaccinated, but I've spent hours looking into it and I can't find anywhere that's actually willing to vaccinate university workers, even though according to state law I can get the vaccine now. Sucks.

[King Zultan]

I have a reliable source that says the vaccines are made with at least 25% Autism.

[martinuzz]

It has been discovered that the rare low blood platelets / trombose combo is indeed a rare side effect caused by AstraZeneca.
It is a rare extreme immune response to the vaccin, causing the immune system to make antibodies against the body's own blood platelets.

In total, 25 people have developed this side effect, which caused blood clots in the brain or in the entire body. 9 of them died.

The good news is, now the mechanism is known, it can be easily treated. Instead of what should normaly be done with blood clotting problems, giving bloodthinning meds like heparine, patients suffering from this immune response should be treated with immunoglobulins, to restore the balance of their immune system (heparin makes it worse / kills the patient in this case).

The side effects are expected to occur about 1 in a million. It is not clear yet why this immune response mostly affects women of relative young age.

[Starver]

I've not seen anything (credible) about that. Which doesn't mean it isn't there, just it seems not to be so obvious.

We had, something like, one clot fatality and four other reported cases out of 10 million UK vaccinations, biased towards men[1]. The causes of concerns that brought about the European 'precautions' were similarly rare but biased towards women[1]. This makes it look more like statistical blips siezed upon. You may even have more fatalities, post-vaccination, from DIY accidents - yet nobody is suggesting that there's a causation like a cordyceps- or toxoplasma gondii-like alteration of personal inhibitions towards more dangerous activities.

And France, which at one point was going with the "there's not enough evidence that it helps older people" line to suggest that it wasn't recommended for them, is not saying AZ should only go to older people. When older people are more susceptible to being struck down by blood-clots, moreover.


Colour me sceptical, still. There's more than medical opinion involved, of course.


[1] Or vice-versa, if I've misremembered.

[martinuzz]

British, Italian and German doctors discovered that all the patients with blood clot problems after vaccination shared the same type of antibodies in their blood, which attack blood platelets. They say it looks very much like HIT syndrome, which also causes the body's antibodies to attack the blood platelets.
They shared their discovery with their European colleauges last friday.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/oorzaak-van-bijwerking-astrazeneca-vaccin-ontdekt-behandeling-goed-mogelijk~b23a76622/

[ChairmanPoo]

There's nothing definite. Just a lot of guesswork concerning potential mechanisms for a phenomenom that, if present(again, nothing definite), is mighty scarce.

IIRC someone was mentioning that it might be a close cousin of heparin induced thrombocytopenia, which is likely the reason for this advisory guideline. Notably, despite the fact that HIT presents with low platelets but its actually a prothrombotic disorder, and will actually need anticoagulation - just not heparin, obviously.

But again, nobody knows for sure. I dont think there's anything formal published, but the numbers thrown around were really small, like, the theory was based on 7 people. It could be that or it could be literally anything else

[Starver]

The most authoritative information I found about it was: "Neither the German nor the Norwegian findings were published or peer reviewed. Prof. Greinacher said he would submit his findings for publication to the British medical journal The Lancet in the coming days."

It's practically a pre-prepub.

(Some more information about the spontaneous background incidence of this 'reaction' would be very welcome, before asserting causation. But will be hard to come by, unless it can be found in the bloods of those hospitalised (non-vaccinated), against the background of all the other conditions that cause hospitalisation.)

[Bumber]

The CDC is reducing distancing guidelines for K-12 schools from 6ft to 3ft, following a new study.

[martinuzz]

What's a K12 school? I know K9 is dog training, what is K12?

[George_Chickens]

What's a K12 school? I know K9 is dog training, what is K12?

SUPER dog training.

[Ziusudra]

What's a K12 school? I know K9 is dog training, what is K12?

Stands for Kindergarten to 12th grade and refers to the compulsory pre-college years of school.