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Author Topic: Untamed Virus Containment Thread:COVID-19: Lurking Omni-Flu Edition  (Read 478440 times)

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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5085 on: February 01, 2021, 05:15:23 am »

With all the governments being stupid should we start handing out copies of that Civil Defense pamphlet that tells you how to dispose of a dead body?

Only if your government is too stupid to dispose of the bodies themselves
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5086 on: February 01, 2021, 05:23:06 am »

With all the governments being stupid should we start handing out copies of that Civil Defense pamphlet that tells you how to dispose of a dead body?

Only if your government is too stupid to dispose of the bodies themselves

But what if there are more bodies than trucks to take them away?
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5087 on: February 01, 2021, 05:28:20 am »

Then you order more trucks, preferably from my hometown. DAF trucks are pretty great at transporting dead bodies with minimal carbon emission!
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5088 on: February 01, 2021, 05:48:02 am »

Crapfuck.  Our government spreads word that not only do they intend to reopen the schools next week, they are also partially reopening the non-essential retail stores. Partially, it's collect only for goods ordered online. According to our PM, if it's up to him and in any way possible, he will lift the curfew too.

This is too soon. More than half our ICUs are still filled. Only a few hundred thousand people have been vaccinated. Infection rates are going down, but not enough to reopen stores if you ask me. Schools, I dunno. For virus spread it might be unwise, but for the children, we kinda have to. They've missed out on nearly a full year of education now and are suffering abuse.

But this is not a medically motivated decision. This is fear of the public opinion in the light of upcoming elections.
Well, I guess we'll get a third wave somewhere near summer.

EDIT: I have the solution! We should go out to the streets and riot and plunder, to demand the lockdown is extended! If the police interferes we tell them to leave us alone, because we are healthcare workers and our covid patients need us!
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5089 on: February 01, 2021, 06:06:23 am »

Teachers are already protesting, they demand they get moved up the queue for vaccination so they can feel safer when standing in front of a freshly opened tin of cabin fevered kids. They also demand PPE masks.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5090 on: February 01, 2021, 06:54:25 am »

I consider this a microcosm of how the world will respond to the up-coming "super crisis" of climate change; Even more, more stringent, and stalwart denial, with even more death--- but because we have air conditioning, it's fine. "nothing to worry about."
As a man of science, I'm sure you appreciate the implications in this graph.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5091 on: February 01, 2021, 06:57:11 am »

Yeah, while everyone might think Covid is a terrible plague, WE are the true plague
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5092 on: February 01, 2021, 10:56:06 am »

I consider this a microcosm of how the world will respond to the up-coming "super crisis" of climate change; Even more, more stringent, and stalwart denial, with even more death--- but because we have air conditioning, it's fine. "nothing to worry about."
As a man of science, I'm sure you appreciate the implications in this graph.
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Enjoy it while it lasts.

Cue the second phase of the Green Revolution, the Soylent Green Revolution.  For 'science'! ("Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.")

But also for 'education'! -aka the production line of greedy institutionalised fucks - ("Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.")
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5093 on: February 01, 2021, 12:21:30 pm »

With all the governments being stupid should we start handing out copies of that Civil Defense pamphlet that tells you how to dispose of a dead body?

Only if your government is too stupid to dispose of the bodies themselves
Kind of insensitive given that dead bodies over the capability of funerary services to cope has already happened many times in the last 12 months. Just saying.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5094 on: February 01, 2021, 12:24:48 pm »

I consider this a microcosm of how the world will respond to the up-coming "super crisis" of climate change; Even more, more stringent, and stalwart denial, with even more death--- but because we have air conditioning, it's fine. "nothing to worry about."
As a man of science, I'm sure you appreciate the implications in this graph.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Enjoy it while it lasts.

I see your scary chart, and raise you a scary paper-- (see factor #4 in their risk breakdown)

https://besjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1365-2656.2008.01426.x



Do note that #4 is not the only thing about that paper that is scary; It's very nature, when applied to human population growth and resource scarcities and mass human-caused extinctions of other species, should be highly evident.

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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5095 on: February 01, 2021, 12:34:04 pm »

But but, migration is good for our genetic health... It counteracts the effects of centuries of inbreeding (not quite true, apparently children of mixed race suffer just as much or more from hereditary illnesses)
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5096 on: February 01, 2021, 12:35:40 pm »

That is "rescue effect".

In this case, they are talking about "hyper mobility", which humans have, through technological means.  It enables a population center that would otherwise survive, because they are within tolerances for their local niche, to become unviable, because umpteen bazillion people all try to move there at once, and destroy its viability.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5097 on: February 01, 2021, 12:37:06 pm »

Ah right, that makes sense

EDIT: in more corona related news, the british variant is now responsible for half of all infections in the Netherlands. I don't think they're overestimating it if they say it is about 50% more infectious than the original strain.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5098 on: February 01, 2021, 03:33:42 pm »

Ah right, that makes sense

EDIT: in more corona related news, the british variant is now responsible for half of all infections in the Netherlands. I don't think they're overestimating it if they say it is about 50% more infectious than the original strain.
I'm sorry our islands have exported this to you

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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: COVID-19:One year of this terror Edition
« Reply #5099 on: February 01, 2021, 03:35:52 pm »

Bwah random mutation at a random location in a random location is random, can't really blame that on the location
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