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[Iduno]

Now I suddenly understand how some people feel about Fluoride.

Yeah, English spells a lot of words badly. It can be both correct and terrible.

I'll be honest, I'm not wild about having to be inoculated if it comes to that. Especially with a) how fast things are moving and b) some people's profit motivations. Sounds like a recipe for a poorly tested vaccine with unknown side effects rapidly deployed to large populations.

What, since when have medicines and medical treatments/devices that don't work correctly and/or threaten lives been rushed to market in the name of profit? Also, no fair pointing to the US, it has to be a real country.

[Trekkin]

Now I suddenly understand how some people feel about Fluoride.

I'll be honest, I'm not wild about having to be inoculated if it comes to that. Especially with a) how fast things are moving and b) some people's profit motivations. Sounds like a recipe for a poorly tested vaccine with unknown side effects rapidly deployed to large populations.

Vaccines are only part of the possible therapeutics and therapeutic-like things, and probably the least useful right now. Entry inhibitors can do a lot to drop titer in people already infected, and effective ex vivo destruction of the virions opens up more chemical possibilities. Frankly it's a lot easier to kill the virus if there isn't a person around it we need to keep alive.

There's just not really a good way to quantify the effectiveness of each relative to the others.

[scriver]

Now I suddenly understand how some people feel about Fluoride.

I'll be honest, I'm not wild about having to be inoculated if it comes to that. Especially with a) how fast things are moving and b) some people's profit motivations. Sounds like a recipe for a poorly tested vaccine with unknown side effects rapidly deployed to large populations.

Way back when the swine flu or bird flu or whatever was going around they haste-vaccinated a lot of people and a lot of people ended up with... that sleep disorder where you fall asleep whenever.

So I'm not too much looking forward to the prospect of more hastily concocted and pushed-through-the-testing-phase vaccines. I'll probably want my parents to get it though, they're both near risk zone.

[Naturegirl1999]

Now I suddenly understand how some people feel about Fluoride.

I'll be honest, I'm not wild about having to be inoculated if it comes to that. Especially with a) how fast things are moving and b) some people's profit motivations. Sounds like a recipe for a poorly tested vaccine with unknown side effects rapidly deployed to large populations.

Way back when the swine flu or bird flu or whatever was going around they haste-vaccinated a lot of people and a lot of people ended up with... that sleep disorder where you fall asleep whenever.

So I'm not too much looking forward to the prospect of more hastily concocted and pushed-through-the-testing-phase vaccines. I'll probably want my parents to get it though, they're both near risk zone.

are you referring to Narcalepsy?

[Reelya]

I think ... it's called ....

* ZzzZzz *

[Starver]

Talking of falling asleep, I just listened to today's Daily Briefing from Downing Street, as I do every day. Too much soapbox, too little information to justify a full half hour.

Those people who need to have Core Messages hammered into their heads by rhetoric repetition won't be tuning in anyway, unlike dutiful me. A couple of days ago I thought I was back sat cross-legged in the Story Corner in primary school being read to from Janet And John Don't Go Outside, even, by the most condescending of my teachers in one of the Infants classes.

And, by now, the day's expert-with-the-graphs (which don't display on my radio...) should have been given a Powerpoint Clicker of his/her own. Even by unexpedited mail order, it won't have taken more than a few days for one to arrive.

[mko]

Way back when the swine flu or bird flu or whatever was going around they haste-vaccinated a lot of people and a lot of people ended up with... that sleep disorder where you fall asleep whenever.

https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/we-may-finally-know-why-flu-vaccine-triggered-narcolepsy/ https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/07/why-pandemic-flu-shot-caused-narcolepsy

Still, "even with the increased risk of narcolepsy, the benefits of the vaccine outweighed the cost".

[nenjin]

I think that's highly debatable. Sometimes you can't fix everything nature throws at you, you just have to bear it, get through it and adapt as a species.

If someone tries to give me something to fix one problem but creates another permanent problem, my answer is going to be "fuck no."

[ChairmanPoo]

I think that's highly debatable. Sometimes you can't fix everything nature throws at you, you just have to bear it, get through it and adapt as a species.

If someone tries to give me something to fix one problem but creates another permanent problem, my answer is going to be "fuck no."

Everything has side effects.

Every medication that you had over your life.

It's all a matter of how you stack the odds really

[Bumber]

Now I suddenly understand how some people feel about Fluoride.

Yeah, English spells a lot of words badly. It can be both correct and terrible.

It's Latin, apparently.

[scriver]

Spoiler: I encountered a real life anime on tv today (click to show/hide)

[Naturegirl1999]

Spoiler: I encountered a real life anime on tv today (click to show/hide)

what is meant by real life anime? I see a person looking forward, I don’t see how that translates to being an anime

[nenjin]

I think that's highly debatable. Sometimes you can't fix everything nature throws at you, you just have to bear it, get through it and adapt as a species.

If someone tries to give me something to fix one problem but creates another permanent problem, my answer is going to be "fuck no."

Everything has side effects.

Every medication that you had over your life.

It's all a matter of how you stack the odds really

Everything has side effects. But most don't have permanent side effects or side effects like Narcolepsy. As for how I stack the odds, I stack them such that I don't take shit I don't absolutely need. I won't be taking anything in response to Corona until it has been guinea-pigged by a large, large number of people.

[ChairmanPoo]

I think that's highly debatable. Sometimes you can't fix everything nature throws at you, you just have to bear it, get through it and adapt as a species.

If someone tries to give me something to fix one problem but creates another permanent problem, my answer is going to be "fuck no."

Everything has side effects.

Every medication that you had over your life.

It's all a matter of how you stack the odds really

Everything has side effects. But most don't have permanent side effects or side effects like Narcolepsy.

I guess you've never checked the unusual side effects section of the medication you consume, then... 

[nenjin]

I think that's highly debatable. Sometimes you can't fix everything nature throws at you, you just have to bear it, get through it and adapt as a species.

If someone tries to give me something to fix one problem but creates another permanent problem, my answer is going to be "fuck no."

Everything has side effects.

Every medication that you had over your life.

It's all a matter of how you stack the odds really

Everything has side effects. But most don't have permanent side effects or side effects like Narcolepsy.

I guess you've never checked the unusual side effects section of the medication you consume, then... 

You don't have to check side effects of your medicines when you don't take any.