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Author Topic: Untamed Virus Containment Thread:COVID-19: Lurking Omni-Flu Edition  (Read 495833 times)

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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #195 on: February 14, 2020, 05:17:47 pm »

CDC is loosening testing criteria in a handful of major US cities.
Instead of only testing symptomatic with China travel history/contact with known cases it’s now just ‘flu-like symptoms’

I wonder if we’re about to see case numbers go up here in the states?
Then again the CDC’s been sending out defective test kits across the country.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #196 on: February 15, 2020, 06:43:05 am »

Ministry of Science and Technology( of China) just announced that "... should strengthen the control and management of bio-lab, especially virological material..." Suspicious. The leaked bio-weapon theory has a remote possibility of being true despite that I thought it's conspiracy just a few days ago.
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« Reply #197 on: February 15, 2020, 07:48:20 am »

I thought it's conspiracy just a few days ago.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #198 on: February 15, 2020, 10:35:21 am »

What's the picture? Can't see imgur content in China.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #199 on: February 15, 2020, 10:43:53 am »

It's the scene (well, one frame from it) of Star Wars episode 7 where Han Solo says "it's true. All of it".
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« Reply #200 on: February 15, 2020, 11:00:59 am »

Lol thanks! I thought it's the "Aliens!" image.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #201 on: February 15, 2020, 11:02:34 am »

Imgur blocked in China? Go figure.
Does that mean that CCP is monitoring your posts and this thread?
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #202 on: February 15, 2020, 11:16:17 am »

Ministry of Science and Technology( of China) just announced that "... should strengthen the control and management of bio-lab, especially virological material..." Suspicious. The leaked bio-weapon theory has a remote possibility of being true despite that I thought it's conspiracy just a few days ago.
"Except for coalboat, who should by all means lick all infectious biological samples".

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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #203 on: February 15, 2020, 11:31:59 am »

Imgur blocked in China? Go figure.
Does that mean that CCP is monitoring your posts and this thread?
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #204 on: February 15, 2020, 11:36:03 am »

lick all infectious biological samples".

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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #205 on: February 15, 2020, 12:07:12 pm »

It turns out there may be a link between coronavirus deaths and smoking. This could explain a few puzzling things.

First, no children have died. Second, it disproportionately kills Chinese men rather than women. About 50% of Chinese men are regular smokers vs only about 2.5% of Chinese women. This also suggests that linear extrapolations from what's happening in China to how the virus would affect non-Chinese nations should be considered with a grain of salt. Chinese men consume a disproportionate amount of the world's cigarettes. In China, men who've gotten the disease are about 4 times as likely to die as a woman. The baseline risk would be about 1% fatality, but also keep in mind that people with compromised lung health are also more likely to pick up the infection in the first place.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-dangerous-smokers/

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https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202002.0051/v1

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In current severe global emergency situation of 2019-nCov outbreak, it is imperative to identify vulnerable and susceptible groups for effective protection and care. Recently, studies found that 2019-nCov and SARS-nCov share the same receptor, ACE2. In this study, we analyzed four large-scale datasets of normal lung tissue to investigate the disparities related to race, age, gender and smoking status in ACE2 gene expression. No significant disparities in ACE2 gene expression were found between racial groups (Asian vs Caucasian), age groups (>60 vs <60) or gender groups (male vs female). However, we observed significantly higher ACE2 gene expression in smoker samples compared to non-smoker samples. This indicates the smokers may be more susceptible to 2019-nCov and thus smoking history should be considered in identifying susceptible population and standardizing treatment regimen.

Smoking causes significantly higher gene expression of a receptor that's targeted by coronaviruses, including the latest one and including SARS. So the question of "Why China?" for these types of viruses could be partly because these types of viruses target a receptor that you get more of if you're a heavy smoker. I'm willing to bet the few men in their 30s who have died of this also happened to be heavy smokers.
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #206 on: February 15, 2020, 12:44:35 pm »

Air pollution in China is also absolutely dreadful.
Merely living and breathing there would probably be smoking a couple cigarettes per day
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« Reply #207 on: February 15, 2020, 12:48:19 pm »

Is it time for Big Tobacco to throw its hat into the ring and try to save all of its customers from the Smokerpocalypse?
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #208 on: February 15, 2020, 05:08:50 pm »

The marijuana legalisation movement was secretly a Chinese plot to make the US vulnerable to their bioweapons all along
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Re: Untamed Virus Containment Thread: SARS-Cov-2: SARS Harder
« Reply #209 on: February 15, 2020, 07:46:19 pm »

Smoking causes significantly higher gene expression of a receptor that's targeted by coronaviruses, including the latest one and including SARS. So the question of "Why China?" for these types of viruses could be partly because these types of viruses target a receptor that you get more of if you're a heavy smoker. I'm willing to bet the few men in their 30s who have died of this also happened to be heavy smokers.

Hmm. Does this mean it's also more likely to be caught by smokers?

This also makes some sense with the medical staff in Wuhan's high infection rate. Medical work is a stressful job and smoking takes the edge off...
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