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Re: Pure Nomic
« Reply #180 on: September 04, 2019, 03:40:51 pm »

It seems like you are saying "Zappos" on purpose Nature. Is that a local name? In most English places it would be "Zapdos.
It is Zapdos my iPad is just autocorrecting to Zappos. Thank you for catching that. It is supposed to be Zapdos
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Re: Pure Nomic
« Reply #181 on: September 04, 2019, 04:04:10 pm »

(Oh goodie, TTE making this easier for me.)

We say goodbye to Global Director Eschar, who served from August 26th to September 2nd, and cast 2 votes, leading support on RTD Gladiator battles and No Proposal Wednesdays. There is now 1 Vacancy.
Also, we welcome Global Director King Zultan who is a regular in the Colosseum and in Kanto. They were the first Citizen. And the first one to promote to Global Director. They have explained they will be most active at night.

PASSES already announced:
5-0 | Summoning Phantom Rules
4-0 | Clarity Law
5-0 | Library Card
3-0 | Global Settings
4-0 | Consequences Polished



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[b]ALPHA RULES:[/b][list type=decimal][li]
All Global Directors must agree to changes to the game.
[/li][li]
Global Director limit of 6.
[/li][li]
After 48 hours all rules with at least one non-proposer yes vote are automatically accepted if unopposed.
[/li][li]
The OP must update the original post.
[/li][li]
[url=http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=174557.0]Character Creation[/url]
[quote]Name:
Appearance:
Goal:
Aligned Entity:
(Add more if desired)[/quote]
[/li][li]
Any new rule that requires the OP to do something, must have OP consent. And can be removed by them later.
[/li][li]
There are two classes of rules: Alpha rules, which govern the Nomic; and Beta rules, which govern any in-game games. Alpha rules are to be listed under an Alpha header. Beta rules are to be listed under a Beta header. Alpha rules are to be referred to as Alpha-1, Alpha-2, and so on. Beta rules are to be referred to in a similar way. Alpha rules overrule Beta rules.
[/li][li]
Disputes can be resolved with RTD Gladiator battles, hosted by a referee. The competitors would agree on one, or one would be chosen randomly if they couldn't. Anyone that volunteered to do it.
[/li][li]
If a Global Director does not post to the thread for three days than they can be killed by any Global Director, and if killed are no longer signed up. They may resign/respawn at any time. If there is an open slot still.
[/li][li]
In the case of the OP being unavailable for three days then all active Global Directors can vote on a replacement OP and make a new thread. When this happens the new OP must link to the previous thread in their OP and to the next thread in their last post in the old thread. OP is assumed to have left the game.
[/li][li]
All characters must be aligned with an entity of their choice. This entity may be an individual (see clause B), a specimen of flora or fauna, an organization, or a deity (see clause C).
Clause B: The individual may be the character itself.
Clause C: The deity must be from a pre-existing (see clause C.A) religion or fictional work.
Clause C.A: Pre-existing, for the sake of this rule, means before the character was made.
[/li][li]
Global Directors may earn points in a manner determined by the rule set. The purpose of said points shall be determined by the rule set. You can trade points. Upon your death you lose all your points.
[/li][li]
Wednesdays you cannot propose any new rules or rule revisions.
[/li][li]
The host of matches in the RTD thread may, at their own discretion, allow guests in the RTD thread, at intervals determined by the rule set, to vote to give their favorite Global Directors boosts. The form these boosts will take will be randomly selected from a list. This list will be provided by the Global Directors in a way determined by the rule set.
[/li][li]
The Global Directors rule over willing non-Global Directors. The means for this is to be determined by the rule set.
[/li][li]
Global Directors can create multiple characters, but only one character can be active at a time. When the active character dies, GD can choose which of their backup characters takes the Acive character’s place upon death. Backup characters do not start with what the Active character had upon death
[/li][li]
Guests may register to the game as Citizens by posting to the thread "I, [Username], register to the thread as a citizen and understand that my position is below the Global Directors.".
[/li][li]
All proposals must be given a concise title by their proposer for referential purposes.
[/li][li]
You may only make 3 proposals a day. A proposal may contain multiple new rules and or rule revisions, but Global Directors vote for or against an entire proposal. You may edit a proposal if it doesn't have any non-proposer votes. You may spend X-2 points to make an additional proposal, where X equals your total number of proposals today before your next one.
[/li][li]
If you posted in the thread between the last two Wednesdays, you gain 10 Points.
[/li][li]
Excluding this one, instances in rules(past and future) of the word "player" and "players" are to be replaced with the title "Global Director" and "Global Directors". All Global Directors are assigned the number of the player slot they fill. They may change number if that slot is open. They have the option to take a concise nickname. (GD-1 "Clockwork", for example.)
[/li][li]
There exist in-game organizations called "Divisions". Each Division is ruled over by a Global Director who may structure it as they see fit, within the rule set. Each Citizen must choose a Division to be a part of. Divisions are numbered in accordance with the GD who initially starts it.
[/li][li]
When proposing you must underlined the first use of the proposal title.
[/li][li]
If you kill a Global Director you must describe your character slaying theirs and must have an Avatar or Duplicate on the same planet as one of theirs.
[/li][li]
There is a ball. If you have it you can pass it to another Global Director. The OP starts with the ball and get's it back after 72 hours without someone passing it.
[/li][li]
Each member of the game, Global Director, Citizen, or otherwise, may, at their discretion, designate heirs for their points and other possessions in special documents called "Wills". Wills may be as detailed as desired and may be conditional.
[/li][li]
Every rule added, should be done exactly as proposed. Exceptions include: removal or addition of BBC formatting, removal or addition of indentation and spacing, removal of proposal clarifying text, and if the rule is effected by another rule.
[/li][li]
If the proposer of a pending rule no longer supports it, it should be removed from the vote.
[/li][li]
Conditional rules get a chance at passing whether or not the original rule passes or fails. After the original rule is passed, the descendant can be treated like a revision rule, but if the original rule fails, the descendant can still have a chance as a new rule.
[/li][li]
A rule is not in effect until it is added to the OP.
[/li][li]
If you wish to make a proposal that does not effect game mechanics, and that does not increase the total number of rules, put "Bookkeeping: " before the rest of the proposal title and this does not count against your daily proposal limit. Proposals that do not qualify must not have the word "Bookkeeping" in the title. You may only have up to 10 pending Bookkeeping proposals at any one time.
[/li][li]
Each Global Director has complete control over their own planet, and may choose the setting. They may have a link placed in the OP to one thread for the world.
[/li][li]
A Global Director's avatar can change from world to world to conform to the setting. The avatar can be killed by the world's Global Director upon losing a Gladiator Duel they agree to participate in against another Global Director. Global Directors must roleplay their character traveling by some method of their choosing when going from one world to another, and there is a minimum travel time of 15 minutes. Global Directors are always able to post freely in this thread, no matter what world their avatar is on.
[/li][li]
A Global Director may create duplicates of themselves to be on multiple worlds simultaneously, but if any Duplicate dies, they all do. If the Global Director that died respawns, the Global Directors of the worlds in which they had duplicates have the option to permit them to continue as if nothing ever happened. If duplicates travel to the same world they merge into the one that most recently active on the planet, and they do not need to roleplay arriving.
[/li][li]
An accuser, who doesn't need to be a Global Director, must make an accusation by posting a Global Director's nickname in bold red font, and any supporting evidence of that Global Director having broken any rules. After posting the accusation the trial will last 48 hours, and there is no limit to the number of active trials. Any Global Director can support the accusation by suggesting a penalty; this can be death, a point fee of some amount and who it would go to if anyone, or both, or nothing at all. If 3 or more non-accuser Global Directors support the accusation when the trial has ended the defendant must suffer the penalty. The third highest penalty is to be enforced, going by death as the maximum and the number of points lost as the secondary scale. The Global Director to suggest the punishment is to carry it out within 1 week of the trial ending. Global Directors can change their suggested punishment or withdraw their support as desired throughout the trial.
[/li][/list]

[b]BETA RULES:[/b]
[list type=lower-roman][li]
(Rules not yet officially classified.)
[/li][li]
(Rules not yet officially classified.)
[/li][/list]

[b]GLOBAL DIRECTORS:[/b][list type=decimal][li]
Liberonscien
[/li][li]
Marbles (roseheart)
[/li][li]
The_Two_Eternities
[/li][li]
Naturegirl1999
[/li][li]
King Zultan
[/li][li]
(Vacant)
[/li][/list]

ALPHA RULES:
  • All Global Directors must agree to changes to the game.
  • Global Director limit of 6.
  • After 48 hours all rules with at least one non-proposer yes vote are automatically accepted if unopposed.
  • The OP must update the original post.
  • Character Creation
    Quote
    Name:
    Appearance:
    Goal:
    Aligned Entity:
    (Add more if desired)
  • Any new rule that requires the OP to do something, must have OP consent. And can be removed by them later.
  • There are two classes of rules: Alpha rules, which govern the Nomic; and Beta rules, which govern any in-game games. Alpha rules are to be listed under an Alpha header. Beta rules are to be listed under a Beta header. Alpha rules are to be referred to as Alpha-1, Alpha-2, and so on. Beta rules are to be referred to in a similar way. Alpha rules overrule Beta rules.
  • Disputes can be resolved with RTD Gladiator battles, hosted by a referee. The competitors would agree on one, or one would be chosen randomly if they couldn't. Anyone that volunteered to do it.
  • If a Global Director does not post to the thread for three days than they can be killed by any Global Director, and if killed are no longer signed up. They may resign/respawn at any time. If there is an open slot still.
  • In the case of the OP being unavailable for three days then all active Global Directors can vote on a replacement OP and make a new thread. When this happens the new OP must link to the previous thread in their OP and to the next thread in their last post in the old thread. OP is assumed to have left the game.
  • All characters must be aligned with an entity of their choice. This entity may be an individual (see clause B), a specimen of flora or fauna, an organization, or a deity (see clause C).
    Clause B: The individual may be the character itself.
    Clause C: The deity must be from a pre-existing (see clause C.A) religion or fictional work.
    Clause C.A: Pre-existing, for the sake of this rule, means before the character was made.
  • Global Directors may earn points in a manner determined by the rule set. The purpose of said points shall be determined by the rule set. You can trade points. Upon your death you lose all your points.
  • Wednesdays you cannot propose any new rules or rule revisions.
  • The host of matches in the RTD thread may, at their own discretion, allow guests in the RTD thread, at intervals determined by the rule set, to vote to give their favorite Global Directors boosts. The form these boosts will take will be randomly selected from a list. This list will be provided by the Global Directors in a way determined by the rule set.
  • The Global Directors rule over willing non-Global Directors. The means for this is to be determined by the rule set.
  • Global Directors can create multiple characters, but only one character can be active at a time. When the active character dies, GD can choose which of their backup characters takes the Acive character’s place upon death. Backup characters do not start with what the Active character had upon death
  • Guests may register to the game as Citizens by posting to the thread "I, [Username], register to the thread as a citizen and understand that my position is below the Global Directors.".
  • All proposals must be given a concise title by their proposer for referential purposes.
  • You may only make 3 proposals a day. A proposal may contain multiple new rules and or rule revisions, but Global Directors vote for or against an entire proposal. You may edit a proposal if it doesn't have any non-proposer votes. You may spend X-2 points to make an additional proposal, where X equals your total number of proposals today before your next one.
  • If you posted in the thread between the last two Wednesdays, you gain 10 Points.
  • Excluding this one, instances in rules(past and future) of the word "player" and "players" are to be replaced with the title "Global Director" and "Global Directors". All Global Directors are assigned the number of the player slot they fill. They may change number if that slot is open. They have the option to take a concise nickname. (GD-1 "Clockwork", for example.)
  • There exist in-game organizations called "Divisions". Each Division is ruled over by a Global Director who may structure it as they see fit, within the rule set. Each Citizen must choose a Division to be a part of. Divisions are numbered in accordance with the GD who initially starts it.
  • When proposing you must underlined the first use of the proposal title.
  • If you kill a Global Director you must describe your character slaying theirs and must have an Avatar or Duplicate on the same planet as one of theirs.
  • There is a ball. If you have it you can pass it to another Global Director. The OP starts with the ball and get's it back after 72 hours without someone passing it.
  • Each member of the game, Global Director, Citizen, or otherwise, may, at their discretion, designate heirs for their points and other possessions in special documents called "Wills". Wills may be as detailed as desired and may be conditional.
  • Every rule added, should be done exactly as proposed. Exceptions include: removal or addition of BBC formatting, removal or addition of indentation and spacing, removal of proposal clarifying text, and if the rule is effected by another rule.
  • If the proposer of a pending rule no longer supports it, it should be removed from the vote.
  • Conditional rules get a chance at passing whether or not the original rule passes or fails. After the original rule is passed, the descendant can be treated like a revision rule, but if the original rule fails, the descendant can still have a chance as a new rule.
  • A rule is not in effect until it is added to the OP.
  • If you wish to make a proposal that does not effect game mechanics, and that does not increase the total number of rules, put "Bookkeeping: " before the rest of the proposal title and this does not count against your daily proposal limit. Proposals that do not qualify must not have the word "Bookkeeping" in the title. You may only have up to 10 pending Bookkeeping proposals at any one time.
  • Each Global Director has complete control over their own planet, and may choose the setting. They may have a link placed in the OP to one thread for the world.
  • A Global Director's avatar can change from world to world to conform to the setting. The avatar can be killed by the world's Global Director upon losing a Gladiator Duel they agree to participate in against another Global Director. Global Directors must roleplay their character traveling by some method of their choosing when going from one world to another, and there is a minimum travel time of 15 minutes. Global Directors are always able to post freely in this thread, no matter what world their avatar is on.
  • A Global Director may create duplicates of themselves to be on multiple worlds simultaneously, but if any Duplicate dies, they all do. If the Global Director that died respawns, the Global Directors of the worlds in which they had duplicates have the option to permit them to continue as if nothing ever happened. If duplicates travel to the same world they merge into the one that most recently active on the planet, and they do not need to roleplay arriving.
  • An accuser, who doesn't need to be a Global Director, must make an accusation by posting a Global Director's nickname in bold red font, and any supporting evidence of that Global Director having broken any rules. After posting the accusation the trial will last 48 hours, and there is no limit to the number of active trials. Any Global Director can support the accusation by suggesting a penalty; this can be death, a point fee of some amount and who it would go to if anyone, or both, or nothing at all. If 3 or more non-accuser Global Directors support the accusation when the trial has ended the defendant must suffer the penalty. The third highest penalty is to be enforced, going by death as the maximum and the number of points lost as the secondary scale. The Global Director to suggest the punishment is to carry it out within 1 week of the trial ending. Global Directors can change their suggested punishment or withdraw their support as desired throughout the trial.

BETA RULES:
  • (Rules not yet officially classified.)
  • (Rules not yet officially classified.)

GLOBAL DIRECTORS:
  • Liberonscien
  • Marbles (roseheart)
  • The_Two_Eternities
  • Naturegirl1999
  • King Zultan
  • (Vacant)


Ending Later Today

None.


Ending Tomorrow

Fast Travel
I support this. It is a reward for participation.

Spirit Entity
I oppose to this. I didn't watch JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and there is no further explanation given. What does this mean, and what does this mean in regards to Pure Nomic. Armed with this knowledge I am likely to support it.


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Quote from: Votes
Fast Travel(2): Marbles, Liberonscien
Spirit Entity(1-1): Liberonscien | Marbles

Quote from: Points/Ball
Liberonscien: 20, Ball
Marbles: 20
TTE: 20
Naturegirl1999: 20
King Zultan: 20

Quote from: Wills
Marbles: My heir is to be a clone of myself that will receive a copy of my memories.

It is No Proposal Wednesday.
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Re: Pure Nomic
« Reply #182 on: September 04, 2019, 04:52:11 pm »

Novoting on Consequences Polished because I'm still irrationally disapproving of the word "must", and I don't quite get the rationale for taking the third highest punishment.
Tsss, I agree. We'll need to look at that. I think we can count it as bookkeeping, because it wouldn't change how the rule works in any real world scenario. But words like "must" should be applied better.

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BETA RULES
Giving notice to Liberonscien and those that supported Beta/Alpha rules, I am going to expect us to drop or use these at some point.

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35.
We are at 35 rules, and I'd like to set a goal of being no higher than that by next Wednesday. Meaning the amount of new rules and rule mergers cancel each other out. I will be trading 2 points to everyone if we succeed.

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On the discussion of Planets vs Dimensions, here is the collection of notes that could hint at where people stand.

I think the only one who has a clear desire is perhaps King Zultan, who might like them to be different "cities" on the same planet.
There is also the option to leave things ambiguous.

Personally, what ever we do, I feel we should give each Global Director total imaginative control over their world. These RTD threads might survive without Pure Nomic, might even outlast it. So they should not be limited in creative ways that would stifle that possibility. Also the more independent they are, the more a player can play these games outside of the scope of Pure Nomic, and welcoming more kinds of players can lead to those that eventually DO join us.

In terms of not inhibiting a Global Directors creativity about their world, I have made a list from most free to least as I see it.

1. Ambiguous: Do not explain how the worlds are connected.
2. Dimensions: Different Dimensions on the Same Planet.
3. Planets: Different Planets in the same Space.
4. Regions: Different Regions on the same World Map.
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Re: Pure Nomic
« Reply #183 on: September 04, 2019, 08:21:49 pm »

I'd like to transmute Alpha-5 and Alpha-11 to Beta-1 and Beta-2, respectively.

Also, the spirit avatar thing could be anything from as mundane as a in-universe horoscope, to something more fantastic like a spirit guardian/warrior.

I would personally go for a clock-punk knight with microscopic/telescopic lens eyes.
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Re: Pure Nomic
« Reply #184 on: September 04, 2019, 08:33:01 pm »

Ok, so its like a magical monster ghost/guardian angel thing?

Is it the same as say, a spirit animal, influencing what kind of person you are, or its more like a Ghost Pokémon you summon into battle?

I would personally go for a clock-punk knight with microscopic/telescopic lens eyes.
That's pretty cool. Hey, you going to give me a GD Nickname I can call you by? It was your idea.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2019, 08:44:50 pm by roseheart »
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Re: Pure Nomic
« Reply #185 on: September 04, 2019, 08:47:38 pm »

GD nickname
Maybe
“Digresser”? Since conversations I have tend to change topics frequently
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Re: Pure Nomic
« Reply #186 on: September 04, 2019, 08:55:26 pm »

I like it.
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« Reply #187 on: September 04, 2019, 10:07:34 pm »

Ok, so its like a magical monster ghost/guardian angel thing?

Is it the same as say, a spirit animal, influencing what kind of person you are, or its more like a Ghost Pokémon you summon into battle?

I would personally go for a clock-punk knight with microscopic/telescopic lens eyes.
That's pretty cool. Hey, you going to give me a GD Nickname I can call you by? It was your idea.
It could be either one. I'm leaning towards the latter.

If it was the former then it would be a scientist robot leading me to develop an interest in science.

For the latter it could be a knight of science that my character would send into battle.

My GD name? Hmm. I'm thinking something like Clockwork but with a modifier.
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Re: Pure Nomic
« Reply #188 on: September 04, 2019, 10:12:19 pm »

Ok, so its like a magical monster ghost/guardian angel thing?

Is it the same as say, a spirit animal, influencing what kind of person you are, or its more like a Ghost Pokémon you summon into battle?

I would personally go for a clock-punk knight with microscopic/telescopic lens eyes.
That's pretty cool. Hey, you going to give me a GD Nickname I can call you by? It was your idea.
It could be either one. I'm leaning towards the latter.

If it was the former then it would be a scientist robot leading me to develop an interest in science.

For the latter it could be a knight of science that my character would send into battle.

My GD name? Hmm. I'm thinking something like Clockwork but with a modifier.
Diligent Clockwork?
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Re: Pure Nomic
« Reply #189 on: September 04, 2019, 10:34:06 pm »

I was thinking of something like "the Mad Clockwork", "steel Clockwork", or something. I'll think about it. I want something that brings to mind science(or reason or technology)/chaos(or change)/freedom.
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Re: Pure Nomic
« Reply #190 on: September 04, 2019, 10:45:25 pm »

I just ask everyone keep it "concise" as the rule says. Make it actually easy to say often. Don't overthink it.
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« Reply #191 on: September 04, 2019, 10:55:00 pm »

I just ask everyone keep it "concise" as the rule says. Make it actually easy to say often. Don't overthink it.
Good idea. I'll just go with Clockwork. People can add modifiers if they like.
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Re: Pure Nomic
« Reply #192 on: September 04, 2019, 11:10:51 pm »

So far everyone that has set or shared ideas for one, has one with a different starting letter.
C
M
B
D

Even if the ones said are not people's final choice yet, if we all have different letters we could just use that in voting.
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Re: Pure Nomic
« Reply #193 on: September 04, 2019, 11:14:58 pm »

LBOS analyzes the ball for a moment then passes it to Marbles.
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Re: Pure Nomic
« Reply #194 on: September 04, 2019, 11:16:22 pm »

So far everyone that has set or shared ideas for one, has one with a different starting letter.
C
M
B
D

Even if the ones said are not people's final choice yet, if we all have different letters we could just use that in voting.
Interesting, Marbles.
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