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[Maxinum McDreich]

I am drum rolling!

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[notquitethere]

There's a couple of illegal moves, as such players may wish to revise. We're on the last turn so it pays to get this right. In order:


edit all is well.

[Naturegirl1999]

The minks Conquer 74 before my turn

[notquitethere]

The minks Conquer 74 before my turn

Ah! Of course. My apologies, you're correct and I'm an idiot. All is well. Processing now...

[notquitethere]

Game End

With one last push, the great powers split the island three-ways, with the Leviathan electorate languishing in their lake, and the trolls isolated in a handful of mountain strongholds. While the glorious cities of the Principality of Pork were equal in splendour to the arid wastes of the Mad Nomads, it was the great forests of Ferngully that were foremost among the heretics.

Spoiler: Year 4 - End of Game (click to show/hide)

Player	Land Territories	Heresy Points	Total Score
Naturegirl1999 - Ferngully	24	16	40
Kashyyk - Principality of Pork	26	13	39
SHAD0Wdump - Mad Nomads	27	12	39
Wozzy - Controll Freaks	8	8	16
NQT - The Leviathan Electorate	6	5	11
Shadowclaw777 - Organization of Clucks	0	0	0

Full Stats

Spoiler: NQT - The Leviathan Electorate (click to show/hide)

Civilisation: The Leviathan Electorate
Colour: Maroon
Heresy: Aquatic
Species: Doge's Men
Population: 2
Territories: 7
Cities: 1
Population Range: 2-9
Turn Order: 5
The Electorate are in self-imposed exile from the city state of Sinua after their preferred Doge, the Leviathan, was defeated. They hope to use their superior canalcraft to create a new watery stronghold.

Spoiler: Naturegirl1999 - Ferngully (click to show/hide)

Civilisation Name: Ferngully
Color: Lavender
Heresy: Bountiful
Species : Ent
Population: 9
Cities: 6
Territories: 25 (inc. 1 ocean)
Population Range: 7-32
Turn Order: 8

Spoiler: Wozzy - Controll Freaks (click to show/hide)

Civilisation Name:  Controll Freaks
Colour: Delicious chocolate
Heresy: Shaker
Species : Troll
Population: 2
Territories: 8
Cities: 1
Population Range: 2-10
Turn Order: 14

Spoiler: Kashyyk - Principality of Pork (click to show/hide)

Civilisation Name: Principality of Pork
Colour: Pink
Heresy: Builder
Species : Swine
Population: 14
Cities: 13
Territories: 26
Population Range: 11-37
Turn Order: 21

Spoiler: SHAD0Wdump - Mad Nomads (click to show/hide)

Civilisation Name: Mad Nomads
Colour: Purple
Heresy: Arid
Species : Mabbling Monks
Population: 6
Cities: 5
Territories: 27
Population Range: 6-33
Turn Order: 24 - 2

[Naturegirl1999]

This was fun

[notquitethere]

That ended up more balanced than I thought it might! Very close placement in the top 3. The Porks could have drew in first place if they'd have built a city instead of idling their last action. Likewise, if the Nomads had kept the mountain and it wasn't invaded, they would have drew. I wonder how it would have looked if Wozzy had kept playing.

[Maxinum McDreich]

WOW that was close. I think if Wozzy kept playing, Ferngully would have struggled more to get out of their area, Porkie's would have also struggled a little more but the Mad Nomads may have been left alone enough to have made it a two horse race between them and the Control Freaks.

NQT, setting the players with some stated as player first then their civ and sometimes reverse is REALLY irking me, damnit xD.

[notquitethere]

WOW that was close. I think if Wozzy kept playing, Ferngully would have struggled more to get out of their area, Porkie's would have also struggled a little more but the Mad Nomads may have been left alone enough to have made it a two horse race between them and the Control Freaks.

What Wozzy really would have wanted would have been to encircle some farmland with mountains so he could actually grow, but he did really well with his species-heresy combo to get a load of free and cheap expansions. That said, his growth in the year before he disappeared had slowed- he started out with 26, and through being conquered and taking new land, he managed to stick about 27.

NQT, setting the players with some stated as player first then their civ and sometimes reverse is REALLY irking me, damnit xD.

Fixed.

[Kashyyk]

Unfortunately I didn't have the population for another City. If I'd been able to harvest those four fields in year 2 I would have flooded my way to victory.

[notquitethere]

Ah of course, that makes complete sense.

[Naturegirl1999]

I think an RTD where people play as individuals in this world would be cool. Trying to get power by dealing with politics in the civs. It would be lots of work to process though. I thought it would be cool. Does anyone else think it would be cool?

[notquitethere]

Some kind of spin-off game in this world would be neat, yeah. You have three major powers holding each other in balance, Cluck refugees from their shattered nation, trolls lurking in the mountains, a besieged water nation in decline. If someone else ran it, I'd play in it.

I reckon the surviving poults would flee to become an underclass in the new Pork cities, as they share the same Builder belief. The Leviathan Electorate would remain bitter enemies of the Mad Nomads, with both the betrayal and their mutually incompatible beliefs keeping the wedge between them. The Ents would continue to spread the forests in the north.

[Kashyyk]

From a balance point of view, I'm wondering if the Raise ability needs looking at. It costs the same as Bountiful's Fecund, but gives an extra point of defence and can only be reversed with another Heresy's special ability, compared to the base deforest ability.

[Naturegirl1999]

From a balance point of view, I'm wondering if the Raise ability needs looking at. It costs the same as Bountiful's Fecund, but gives an extra point of defence and can only be reversed with another Heresy's special ability, compared to the base deforest ability.

Hm. What if Raise were to cost 3 actions?(Convert terrain to favored for 2 actions + adding a defense aka Fortification)
And adding a Mine ability to create caves in the mountains. The Mine ability would be 2 actions avaliable to all civs and a mountain with a Mine will turn into Rock Plain(functions as regular plain) the following turn?
If a problem is detected, tell me. Just thoughts on balancing