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[Criperum]

A mystical and mythical character that appears in folks art like songs and stories etc. but has no reference in legends but still being completely real. sometimes it pops up in random places and makes your dwarves shit their pants. Nothing can stop it. Unless you get rid of all mentions. The more mentions the more powerful it becomes.

[betaking]

The Following is a "REAL ONE" that I was like at least 1.5 hours into writing as a clarification post/stealth-bump for my "Intrim Workshops" suggestion-thread, when I read over this again and realized why nobody was replying.

To Clarify examples of what I'm getting at:
Workshops should/could have a "tech tree" dependent on the amount of equipment and tools you put into them.
I think some of the mods might do this, or something like it, already, through various RAW manipulations.
The basic goal is to allow, or test for, the sorts of complications that could occur if/when workshops are reconfigured as zones, as well as by allowing for a greater sense of roleplay to occur by having your fortresses production less focused purely on exporting =<<+Pond Turtle Shell Figurine+>>= 's (ringed with groundhog bone).

This "tech tree" would obviously change gameplay and have detrimental effects on backwards compatibility, at least at first but what is backwards compatibility anyway in a game like DF.

Thinking about the changes necessary
-->Craftsdwarf Workshop:

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For a "Tier 0a" Craftsdwarf workshop: you'd require only a building material as a "seat".

• -!!NEW!!-gather Sticks, Small Stones
• -Sharpen Stones- (reqs two small-stones)
  
• sharpen bones, shells, bone knives, shell knives, etc.
• [/l]

[/l][/list]"Tier 0b"-similar, just have to designate what "tools" are going to be in the workshop's inventory. tools in workshop inventory are left there when the worker leaves, and should either disappear or be highlighted when you look through your stocks list.

• BASIC
     
  • -gather sticks, small stones
  • -sharpen stones
  • -make wooden haves
  • -Split Wood to Sticks (1 "log" = 4 sticks)
  • -make Stone Axe
  • -Make Stone Adz(maybe as a "stone pick capable of digging only soil layers or else breaking constantly")
  • -Make Wooden club/Mallet/Hammer(should require either two sticks, or 1 log, or 3 sticks+1 log = 3 mallets)
  • -Make Stone Shortsword (like we already have)
  • -make stone Knife (think a primitive flint/flaked-stone knife).
  • -make stone dagger (dagger is basically an obsidian knife).
  • -Make stone wood drill (requires wooden stick and sharped stone)
  • -make stone saw(requires wooden stick, requires stone)
  • -make reed-wicker basket or grass-bag(reqs: leaves/grasses/reeds)

CARPENTRY-Opens up as soon as you have an adz, or an axe, and either building material or a table.

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Tier 0a;

• make rack/frame

, basically a rack that can either be used as a weapon-rack or as a part of meat, fabric, leather, fish, etc. processing as a drying/smoking rack.
   

• Make Table
• Make Wooden 'pot' (Barrels and buckets are too complicated and require multiple industries to make the hoops, either of leather, wood, or metal.. Remember Coopers were a profession all their own for a reason, a barrel and frankly most wooden buckets required finely crafting a bunch of different wooden panels to fit together).
• make wicker basket
• make wooden sawhorse
• make wood turner (reqs string or something.. idk.. egyptian lathes used a bow, but by the medieval era that was replaced by foot pedals)
• Make Wooden Shaft(refined stick, requires a stick and something like sandpaper and an adz to refine)

Middle tiers: requires addition of a "rough wood-turner"(which basically requires a a spit + bow), sawhorses(2).. maybe recipes/reactions requiring the use of Linseed or rocknut oil? maybe a barrel of that stuff even would be a different use for it outside of soap..

• Barrels (requires Hoops)
• Buckets(requires hoops)
• make wooden hoops requires pot for steam-forming a single long stick into a loop and then maybe some kind of glue:one can also make leather hoops
• Wheelbarrows

MASONRY!

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masonry is basically quite similar, with the main differences being in the details of particular chisels, mallets, and saws.
Grinding wheels, turning wheels, and Flywheels are either alternate configurations for the millstone or things that you could make

kind of ran away in terms of overthinking this stuff.

[Nordlicht]

A mystical and mythical character that appears in folks art like songs and stories etc. but has no reference in legends but still being completely real. sometimes it pops up in random places and makes your dwarves shit their pants. Nothing can stop it. Unless you get rid of all mentions. The more mentions the more powerful it becomes.

Awesome idea. Really. It could work in some worlds where ideas create reality. So people would invent their spirits and gods and they would really start to exist. People create worlds by writing. Anyone remember the Myst and Riven games?

[muldrake]

Wrestlers guild are now more likely to be used for entertainment. Wreslters will organize "fake" matches against each other, and invite other dwarves or beings from other civilizations to participate to the DWWT; the Dwarven World Wrestling Tournament

I think they already do this.  My legends modes are full of wrestling matches where some guy is always losing to some other guy.  By reason, the other guy should win at least sometimes.

[Egan_BW]

Add the ability to brew and drink tea. Properly made tea, prepared by a dwarf with a high tea-making skill, provides a massive mood buff, bigger than anything else in the game. If tea is available and a legendary teamaker is a member of your fort, dwarves will spend all of their time just drinking tea and doing no work.

[Eric Blank]

Dwarves are sometimes pyromaniacs and will start random fires wherever flammable material can be found, sometimes putting it out but often letting it spread. This gives them a good thought, and a strong need to start fires that if not fulfilled will result in them attempting to set other dwarves on fire.

[muldrake]

Dwarves are sometimes pyromaniacs and will start random fires wherever flammable material can be found, sometimes putting it out but often letting it spread. This gives them a good thought, and a strong need to start fires that if not fulfilled will result in them attempting to set other dwarves on fire.

They prefer to set their beards on fire, making them especially despised.

[Bumber]

Wrestlers guild are now more likely to be used for entertainment. Wreslters will organize "fake" matches against each other, and invite other dwarves or beings from other civilizations to participate to the DWWT; the Dwarven World Wrestling Tournament

Sometimes they hit the other wrestler from behind with a chair. If a stone throne is used, this results in an instant kill. Otherwise, the target is paralyzed for life.

[Fikilili]

Implementation of theaters and "artistic" dwarves who make strange prestations. Every single of their plays are randomly generated and can range from a beautifully six-act representation of some king's life, a romantic comedy, an elven tragedy, or a strange metaphor for other metaphors for things that have nothing to do what's being represented.
For instance;
"This is a play by Udil Auteurdwarf the dwarf, one of the most recent entries of your fortress's theater. This is play telling the story of King Bomrek TheDead The Third. The prose is strange. The king is represented by an elven woman. She is dressed in a costume representing a sparrow man.
In the first act, she discusses the secret of life and death with a crab man, something that didn't happened in the life of Bomrek theDead.
In the second act, she discovers that the king of the Screaming Rocks has declared a war on them, she mourns the death of her brother, Udil. Something that did happened to Bomrek TheDead, to the exception of the fact that he never had a brother. The brother is played by Udil Auteurdwarf.
In the third act, Ashil, the god of death, comes to awaken the king's brother, he discusses the subject of skies and wagons with Ashil. The discussion is misleading. It is supposed to represent the death of art.
In the fourth and final act, the King kills herself, watched by the forgotten beast Azul, obviously an anachronism since neither of them actually met. It is supposed to represent the death of dwarven ethics.
The nobility loves the play, the rest of the fortress is confused. The fortress has learned the secrets of life and death!"

[King Zultan]

Some dwarves will be so taken with actors in the plays that they'll try to kill the president king to impress them.

[IndigoFenix]

Dwarves are sometimes pyromaniacs and will start random fires wherever flammable material can be found, sometimes putting it out but often letting it spread. This gives them a good thought, and a strong need to start fires that if not fulfilled will result in them attempting to set other dwarves on fire.

They prefer to set their beards on fire, making them especially despised.

Some will set themselves on fire when going into battle, resulting in a morale debuff to their enemies.

[Egan_BW]

ninjas can't get you if you're on fire

[Urist McUristUrist]

Poem generator implementation
Toady makes deals with Nick Walton and IBM to make a GPT-3 poem generator for DF. This means playing DF requieres either a constant internet connection and enough money in a linked bank account to pay 1$ for the operating costs and fees of generating a single poem every time it happens or a supercomputer. You cannot turn it off.

Obviously, the poems are bad and don't integrate with world history well, sometimes picking characters that don't exist in the world but which the AI learned. To band-aid this, the suggestion from a few posts above is implemented

A mystical and mythical character that appears in folks art like songs and stories etc. but has no reference in legends but still being completely real. sometimes it pops up in random places and makes your dwarves shit their pants. Nothing can stop it. Unless you get rid of all mentions. The more mentions the more powerful it becomes.

This means that for the low price of an olimpic pool of gold you can get 3 worlds with the same vampire who appears in poems and randomly spreads his vampirism to people.

[Azerty]

Wrestlers guild are now more likely to be used for entertainment. Wreslters will organize "fake" matches against each other, and invite other dwarves or beings from other civilizations to participate to the DWWT; the Dwarven World Wrestling Tournament

Sometimes they hit the other wrestler from behind with a chair. If a stone throne is used, this results in an instant kill. Otherwise, the target is paralyzed for life.

Some wrestlers will take products to have more muscular mass, and in some cases they might murder their families nbefore killing themselves.

[BigUglyWorm]

Chewing tobacco, which provides a mood boost but is addictive like alcohol.  Dwarves who chew will also spit; you can make spitoons at a craftdwarf's workshop, but they'll need to be cleaned periodically, and barring that, they'll spit on floors and walls, creating puddles that will give other dwarves negative thoughts.

Chewing tobacco can also be flavored with mint, which some dwarves prefer.