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[Taricus]

The problem is that by tying that down to a material rather than, say a field of some sort, the usefulness of that is effectively limited. Especially the amount we would need to counteract the weight of heavier equipment in regards to cost by a frightful amount. Especially since we can fly without needing the stuff thanks to aerodynamics and our gavrilium engines. More importantly, I doubt we can change how much of a distortion effect gravite can have once in use

And gravite infantry armour would be clumsy to say the least, without a system for allowing our troops to fight in the armour, there's going to be practical limitations on how much we can armour them. For that, quality is going to be more important. Same with any other vehicle too; we're only going to have so much gravite and between needing regular resources and other special resources, we aren't going to have a lot of it.

[Madman198237]

I'm pretty absolutely certain that NUKE intends for the Gravite to be capable of emitting its own gravity field/antigravity field, given that the idea was the basis for the Gravite Shortsword.

[Taricus]

And that does limit it's usefulness to the point of it being overshadowed by various different options. Especially since once the field is set we can't change it like we could with an E0 equivalent (Though even that would require a far more advanced computer than what we could hope to produce.)

[Madman198237]

How, precisely, does ALSO having the ability to project a (potentially variable) field cause ANY problems at all, or make it AT ALL inferior to the material who's only claim to any sort of usefulness is the ability to mimic a human muscle?

[Taricus]

Because we can't modify that field after setting it, which is the big issue with it's use. Without the ability to shut the fields off there isn't a lot we can do with it since any vehicle built to hover and/or fly with it cannot be landed.

And again, I'll admit what Myomer can do is limited. But a applicable musculature that's able to mimic human muscles at a greater power to mass ratio would be immensely useful, from boosting the strength of our infantry, to enabling mechs that aren't overly mechanically complex and being to replace hydraulics and pneumatics with something which is both more powerful and mechanically reliable. Hell, the myomer itself, even inert, would still be pretty durable to function as body armour even unpowered.

[Madman198237]

According to who is the field necessarily fixed?

[Taricus]

According to the design description and there being practically no reasonable way to assume it can be variable as a result.

[Man of Paper]

I'll lock votes at 11:00 PM Eastern US, which is in an hour and a half. If you want to make any last minute changes do so now!

[NUKE9.13]

So, we were talking about the government of Salvios on Discord. This is clearly very important to figure out.

This is what I'm working on: upon being granted independence by the Selicate Empire, the merchant lords who basically ran the city already formalised their control by forming the Majlis- a 20-seat council responsible for overseeing government affairs, made up of appointed members of the merchant elite. From this number they chose someone to serve as Tuan, the nominal head of state, although most power was held by the Majlis.
Upon joining the League, the Majlis was convinced to allow universal suffrage, creating a new body- the Perhimpunan- to represent the will of the people. However, to run for one of its sixty seats, a candidate must first be approved by the Majlis. This means that, whilst there are usually several candidates for each seat, none of them are directly opposed to the merchant lords who still essentially run the country.
Bills must be ratified by both the Majlis and the Perhimpunan, and signed by the Tuan. In most cases, if the merchant lords want a bill to pass, the bill will pass.
Freedom of the press is not really a thing, in order to keep the masses in line.

[Man of Paper]

Year 1912 AC (After Colonization) Hot Season, Design Phase

Proposal: Gravite

Gravite: Gravite is a metallic substance with unusual properties. However, until recently, it was no more than a curio; Gravite objects weigh different amounts depending on their orientation, which has for centuries baffled scientists. However, recent breakthroughs in theoretical physics indicated that Gravite might be more than just a curio- it might be one of the most important substances on the planet. An eccentric physicist by the name of Ernesto Pondus recently penned an article describing a theory of gravity that overturns the conventional model- something about family members? Professor Pondus also indicated that, properly treated, Gravite could be used to warp the effects of gravity significantly. By subjecting molten Gravite to a strong, mono-directional source of radiation, the molecules can be aligned, turning the random effects on gravity into a consistent, controllable phenomenon. By maintaining the radiation until the Gravite cools and solidifies, the effect can be 'locked', creating 'Alligned Gravite'.
We've done this, creating bars of solid Gravite that float upwards, in defiance of conventional physics. With the appropriate equipment and forging techniques, we can create Gravite objects that project almost arbitrary gravitational fields. Even more powerful effects can be achieved by keeping the Gravite (which has a relatively low melting point) in a molten state, allowing for the strength and direction of the gravitational effect to be modulated by changing the strength and direction of the radiation being directed through it.

Gravite: An odd silver metal with a hint of green found within our volcanic mountains, Gravite is a newly discovered material that, once smelted into bars, will float a few millimeters off of any surface below it. Applying a current will cause the metal to rise higher proportionally to the power provided. The Gravite bars will shift around in the air if tilted, moving in the direction they're dipping towards at the same level their current has them set at.

GM Note: Gravite might be a bit different than your other resources to work with. Trust me that things are balanced right now and there is nothing odd going on (I mean there is but it has to do with sanity), and if things work a little differently than you'd expect with Gravite you'll know why soon enough. Then again depending on your decisions everything could remain normal. I've said too much already. That's the fun of these things I guess! I also condensed the two uses into one middleground I think, since I want to try to limit the amount of interactions with a Specialty Resource you get at any given time.


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Proposal: GGG-12 Gavrilium Gatling Gun

GGG-12: Sometimes a throwback isn't a bad thing. The Gavrilium Gatling Gun is an example of this.
Unlike a machine gun, the action of firing does not itself cause the weapon to cycle. Instead, a very small Gavrilium Engine (with short, stubby rods) is used to rotate the three firing chambers, loading and firing each through the single barrel in turn. It does so at truly breathtaking speeds, firing incredibly powerful 7.7G rounds (7.7mm bullets with Gavpowder propellant) from belts, resulting in long-range devastation unmatched by contemporary weapons.
Naturally, the extraorinarily high rate of fire and powerful cartridges results in a lot of heat being generated, which would ordinarily require considerable cooling- making for a very heavy weapon. But this is the beauty of the GGG; heatsinks attached to the engine take care of the cooling problem, adding only a little weight, resulting in a weapon that, whilst not lightweight, can still be transported fairly easily, especially since it can easily be disassembled into three parts (the engine, the firing section, and the barrel).
Four soldiers (one carrying each part, and the fourth ammunition) will crew the weapon. It is also suitable for installation on vehicles of all sorts. The rate of fire can be adjusted as circumstances dictate, by turning a dial.

Difficulty: Normal
Result: 5 (2+3+0) 9 (3+6+0) = Above Average

The GGG-12 is a uniquely Salviosi design in that it is both effective and ingenious. It consists of a Gavrilium Engine, a firing section, and a barrel that are carried by three of the four man crew, with the fourth hauling ammo. Once the GavEngine is cranked and begins to rotate at a speed dictated by a dial, it spins the three firing chambers. At this point the gunner need only aim and squeeze the trigger while another crewman feeds ammunition, our unique 7.7G, similar to the 7.7mm but using our Gavpowder as a propellant. This load in combination with the GavEngine provide an effective range of 2200 meters capable of firing up to 600 rounds per minute. While the barrel does heat up rapidly due to the nature of the weapon as well as the gavpowder, heat sinks attached to the engine help keep the barrel cool as well as help keep the Gavrilium Engine from freezing over (though this is inevitable if rods are allowed to completely deplete anyway), equalizing both effects our Gavrilium innovations have on the weapon. The weapon does jam on occasion, but overall performs very well.

The GGG-12 costs 5 Ore and 4 Gavrilium, making it (VERY EXPENSIVE).


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You have done well in preparation for our future maneuvers. Thanks to the construction of the GGG-12 we are willing to grant One Design Credit to be used in the Revision Phase in addition to your Two Revisions. For morale reasons we have decided to highlight one of our capable soldiers and reward him for commendable service. We have left the decision on the candidate to you. (In game terms, with the discussion of national culture as of late, I want you to select a name and background to use for your "hero". This character will have no effect on battle but will be used to provide an occasional first-person account of events.) This is not vital to our war effort and you will not be rewarded for your decision, but it will be appreciated all the same.

Spoiler: Designs (click to show/hide)

Infantry

Senapang Pattern Rifle: A 110 cm, 4 kg dark wood masterpiece. 7.7mm rounds are fed via 5-round stripper clip into the 10-round internal magazine, which can also be loaded with rounds individually. It has an adjustable rear sight with 100 meter increments. It also has a bayonet lug and comes with a bayonet. Padded for operator comfort, extremely dependable and reliable. The Senapang outclasses many rifles of our time. Costs 2 Ore and 2 Wood. (CHEAP)

M2 Dispersion Grenade: A fantastic incendiary weapon. Effectively a canister on a stick that explodes in a burst of heat and molten metal. The sudden burst of wilting heat causes intense burns out to three meters while the flying molten Gavrilium can inflict serious wounds out to ten. Costs 1 Ore and 1 Gavrilium. (CHEAP)

GGG-12 Gavrilium Gatling Gun: A tri-barrel gatling gun that uses a small GavEngine to rotate the barrels. Fires up to 600 rpm with a range up to 2200m thanks to the 7.7G rounds which use a GavPowder load. A heat sink helps provide equilibrium between the heat caused by the Gavpowder load and the freezing caused by the depletion of Gavrilium rods in the engine. Uses a dial to adjust rate of fire. Effective and reliable. Costs 5 Ore and 4 Gavrilium, making it (Very Expensive).

GA1 Cannon: A 150mm piece of artillery that uses a mixture of cordite and powdered Gavrilium to fire rounds fairly accurately to six kilometers but potentially out to nine if accuracy isn't really a factor. The barrel warps from extended use so teams are asked to restrict themselves to six rounds at a time before needing to cool for an extended period. Costs 5 Ore and 3 Gavrilium. (Very Expensive)

BSU: The Berani standard uniform is made of light cotton dyed khaki. A wide brim steel helmet offers some protection, and leather patches on the elbows and knees provide a level of comfort and protection when kneeling or leaning on something. The uniform has a large number of pockets, belts, and satchels made of cotton webbing in order to carry large amounts of equipment such as ammo and grenades. Entrenching tools are provided to all soldiers.

Vehicles

Gavrilium Engine: An engine run by extracting electromagnetic energy from Gavrilium rods and converting it to mechanical energy. Much more powerful and cost efficient than standard combustion engines. The engine's only flaw is overcooling in very cold environments as the rods freeze as their stored energy depletes, seizing the engine and shutting it down. The Depleted Gavrilium rods must be handled with proper protective equipment. Glows blue. Adds 1 Ore to the price of the base vehicle design and converts Oil cost into 1/2 the cost in Gavrilium

Specialty Resource

Gavrilium: A wondermaterial with many unknown qualities. So far we know that low applied heat produces a slow burn with results similar to coal, a sudden explosive force agitates it until it becomes a molten blob, electromagnetic energy can be drawn from it, and depleted gavrilium has a dangerously low temperature.
Gravite: A metallic substance capable of affecting gravitational fields. When a current is applied it rises above the ground at a level proportional to the strength of the current, and will move if tilted.

Spoiler: Territories (click to show/hide)

Salvios: 3 Ent., 2 Ore, 2 Oil, 2 Wood, 2 Gavrilium // 100% Control
Lowlands: 0 Ent., 0/3 Resources // 100% Control

Spoiler: Resources (click to show/hide)

Ore: 2
Oil: 2
Wood: 2
Gavrilium: 2
Gravite: 0

[Taricus]

...Holy SHIT we need a cheaper MG. Or at least removing the gavpower from it. As it stands that thing is a horrendous expense for what it does.

[Man of Paper]

Remember things are going to look expensive to start. Starting in the strategy phase this turn you will be selecting a resource to fill a node in a sector you control. That's a new resource every turn until all 27 nodes on your side are filled, with 4 being given before the war starts. The point is to make sure you can diversify your options while still needing some sort of focus.

[Chiefwaffles]

 No, we're good. Remember that we're still going to get a ton of resources before the game actually starts. (Ninja'd by MoP, but whatever)

MoP, is molten Gravite still subject to variable gravity fields based on radiation? Or do we only have Gravite bars?

[NUKE9.13]

...I think maybe Abbera already created Gravite (by another name), and rather than have two nearly identical resources, MoP modified ours to be the same as theirs.

Because, uh, that "Gravite" is nothing like what we asked for. 

[Taricus]

Well, I guess we know they had the same idea regarding it now don't we?