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Total Members Voted: 14

[Chiefwaffles]

We can get interesting, I just don't want to go immediately insane with softness.

[Baffler]

Am I in time to get in on this?

I think the Exor looks like a better grenade than the M1, but Gavrilium seems like a more useful special resource and if we do go with that then there's not really any reason not to use it to make our grenade better. How's this?

Serangan Pattern Grenade:
A grenade, with a hollow wooden handle to make it easier to throw over long distances which can be removed if necessary. The pin is located at the top of the grenade, and its cylindrical shape allows several Serangans to be bundled with relative ease. It uses a Gavrilium charge activated by a primary explosive, allowing it to achieve an explosive yield and effective fragmentation radius similar to grenades used by other powers for assault while being smaller and lighter, allowing soldiers to throw them farther and more accurately, as well as carry more of them.

Special Resource:
Gavrilium (2): Chiefwaffles, Baffler
Gravite (1): NUKE9.13
Myomer (1): Taricus
Splice (1): FallacyofUrist

Designs
Infantry Primary Weapons
SA-SR-M3 "Heartpiercer" (1): FallacyofUrist
T1 Battle Rifle (1): Taricus
Senapang Pattern Rifle (3): NUKE9.13, Chiefwaffles, Baffler

Offensive Equipment
'Exor' Grenade (1): Taricus
M1 Dispersion Grenade (1): Chiefwaffles]
Gravite Short Sword (1): NUKE9.13
SA-CB-M3 "Deathbow" (1): FallacyofUrist
Sarangan Pattern Grenade (1): Baffler

Uniform
“Watcher” Universal Standard Issue Uniform (0):
Berani Standard Uniform (3): NUKE9.13, FallacyofUrist, Baffler

Other:
“Sentry” General-Purpose Air-Cooled Machine Gun (0):

[NUKE9.13]

The Serangan looks pretty similar to the M1 Dispersion, except it doesn't have the dispersion option. What advantage is it supposed to have?

[Baffler]

The Serangan looks pretty similar to the M1 Dispersion, except it doesn't have the dispersion option. What advantage is it supposed to have?

It's supposed to be the Exor but better, essentially. I read Gavrilium as an extremely energy-dense solid that can be used as fuel or explode impressively under the right conditions. Using it as an explosive lets us get more boom by weight and makes huge grenades feasible, but my thinking is that it doesn't make sense to make grenades larger past a certain point, because the bigger they get the harder it is to throw them accurately at a distance that doesn't put the person doing the throwing at risk of being too close to the thing when it goes off. Some grenades are designed with cover in mind and don't really care about this, but given the era it seems like grenades will be mainly used for urban warfare and assaulting trenches and other emplacements. In urban fighting it's very close quarters so you don't need huge yields anyway, so I figured it would be more valuable to the average soldier if they were able to carry more of them. Trenches and things like machinegun nests are both difficult to approach and designed with localizing the damage caused by large explosions as much as possible in mind, so I figured that saving weight and being able to throw the thing accurately from farther away would be more valuable.

I'd support something like the M1 if it were a mortar shell or something like that, but as a hand-held and hand-thrown weapon I feel like it's too situational, and I'm also concerned about the expense and complexity that selective submunition dispersal would add to the design.

[NUKE9.13]

Hmm. I'm not sure where you're getting the M1 being huge from?

[Man of Paper]

Abbera's reached a consensus so once you guys decide on offensive equipment I can get to rolling and we can push forward unto glory!

[Baffler]

I'll switch to the M1 to make the vote then, since yeah I'm not sure where I was getting that it was huge. Also updated its link in the votebox to the newer version of it.

Special Resource:
Gavrilium (2): Chiefwaffles, Baffler
Gravite (1): NUKE9.13
Myomer (1): Taricus
Splice (1): FallacyofUrist

Designs
Infantry Primary Weapons
SA-SR-M3 "Heartpiercer" (1): FallacyofUrist
T1 Battle Rifle (1): Taricus
Senapang Pattern Rifle (3): NUKE9.13, Chiefwaffles, Baffler

Offensive Equipment
'Exor' Grenade (1): Taricus
M1 Dispersion Grenade (2): Chiefwaffles, Baffler
Gravite Short Sword (1): NUKE9.13
SA-CB-M3 "Deathbow" (1): FallacyofUrist
Sarangan Pattern Grenade (0):

Uniform
“Watcher” Universal Standard Issue Uniform (0):
Berani Standard Uniform (3): NUKE9.13, FallacyofUrist, Baffler

Other:
“Sentry” General-Purpose Air-Cooled Machine Gun (0):

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[NUKE9.13]

I'm fine with doing the M1 instead of the sword, so I'll swap my vote over to speed things up.

Special Resource:
Gavrilium (3): Chiefwaffles, Baffler, NUKE9.13
Gravite (0):
Myomer (1): Taricus
Splice (1): FallacyofUrist

Designs
Infantry Primary Weapons
SA-SR-M3 "Heartpiercer" (1): FallacyofUrist
T1 Battle Rifle (1): Taricus
Senapang Pattern Rifle (3): NUKE9.13, Chiefwaffles, Baffler

Offensive Equipment
'Exor' Grenade (1): Taricus
M1 Dispersion Grenade (3): Chiefwaffles, Baffler, NUKE9.13
Gravite Short Sword (0):
SA-CB-M3 "Deathbow" (1): FallacyofUrist
Sarangan Pattern Grenade (0):

Uniform
“Watcher” Universal Standard Issue Uniform (0):
Berani Standard Uniform (3): NUKE9.13, FallacyofUrist, Baffler

Other:
“Sentry” General-Purpose Air-Cooled Machine Gun (0):

[Man of Paper]

While I was going to opt to keep the resource vote open until either the last prep turn or a new unanimous vote, the leading equipment design would require it and force gavrilium as a needed resource for you guys anyway. As it is though it looks like votes are in and I can roll.

[Shadowclaw777]

Special Resource:
Gavrilium (3): Chiefwaffles, Baffler, NUKE9.13
Gravite (0):
Myomer (2): Taricus, SC
Splice (1): FallacyofUrist

Designs
Infantry Primary Weapons
SA-SR-M3 "Heartpiercer" (1): FallacyofUrist
T1 Battle Rifle (2): Taricus, SC
Senapang Pattern Rifle (3): NUKE9.13, Chiefwaffles, Baffler

Offensive Equipment
'Exor' Grenade (2): Taricus, SC
M1 Dispersion Grenade (3): Chiefwaffles, Baffler, NUKE9.13
Gravite Short Sword (0):
SA-CB-M3 "Deathbow" (1): FallacyofUrist
Sarangan Pattern Grenade (0):

Uniform
“Watcher” Universal Standard Issue Uniform (1): SC
Berani Standard Uniform (3): NUKE9.13, FallacyofUrist, Baffler

Other:
“Sentry” General-Purpose Air-Cooled Machine Gun (0):

A moment if you will, I believe that a shift is in the plausibility range

[Man of Paper]

Yep, take your time.

[FallacyofUrist]

Special Resource:
Gavrilium (3): Chiefwaffles, Baffler, NUKE9.13
Gravite (0):
Myomer (3): Taricus, SC, FallacyofUrist
Splice (0):

Designs
Infantry Primary Weapons
SA-SR-M3 "Heartpiercer" (0):
T1 Battle Rifle (3): Taricus, SC, FallacyofUrist
Senapang Pattern Rifle (3): NUKE9.13, Chiefwaffles, Baffler

Offensive Equipment
'Exor' Grenade (3): Taricus, SC, FallacyofUrist
M1 Dispersion Grenade (3): Chiefwaffles, Baffler, NUKE9.13
Gravite Short Sword (0):
SA-CB-M3 "Deathbow" (0):
Sarangan Pattern Grenade (0):

Uniform
“Watcher” Universal Standard Issue Uniform (1): SC
Berani Standard Uniform (3): NUKE9.13, FallacyofUrist, Baffler

Other:
“Sentry” General-Purpose Air-Cooled Machine Gun (0):

I'm not evil. Or crazy. Honest. Well maybe a little crazy, but still.

[Jilladilla]

Well. Here we are, tied.

Special Resource:
Gavrilium (4): Chiefwaffles, Baffler, NUKE9.13, Jilladilla
Gravite (0):
Myomer (3): Taricus, SC, FallacyofUrist
Splice (0):

Designs
Infantry Primary Weapons
SA-SR-M3 "Heartpiercer" (0):
T1 Battle Rifle (4): Taricus, SC, FallacyofUrist, Jilladilla
Senapang Pattern Rifle (3): NUKE9.13, Chiefwaffles, Baffler

Offensive Equipment
'Exor' Grenade (3): Taricus, SC, FallacyofUrist
M1 Dispersion Grenade (4): Chiefwaffles, Baffler, NUKE9.13, Jilladilla
Gravite Short Sword (0):
SA-CB-M3 "Deathbow" (0):
Sarangan Pattern Grenade (0):

Uniform
“Watcher” Universal Standard Issue Uniform (1): SC
Berani Standard Uniform (3): NUKE9.13, FallacyofUrist, Baffler

Other:
“Sentry” General-Purpose Air-Cooled Machine Gun (0):

[Man of Paper]

Since things are a pretty split all around I'll let you guys debate up until I get home from work. Once I get home, which should be around 2:30 or 3 am Eastern, I'll take the highest voted designs regardless of how tight the votes are.

[Taricus]

Okay.  Any chances I can convince those who are voting for Gavrilium to instead support myomer instead?

Also Nuke, are you willing to change the helmet in the Berani uniform to that of a stahlhelm? I'd prefer it due to the better coverage it provides to the soldier compared to the brodie equivalent you've put in currently, as well as pair of combat boots/trench boots?