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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #525 on: August 23, 2017, 11:51:48 am »

That went very well. Is it a free action to put Reinforced Chitinous Armour on the workers? And if it is should we?
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« Reply #526 on: August 23, 2017, 11:57:09 am »

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Move Spitters to Front 1 :(1) 10ebbor10
Reduce warrior 10% => Shift to Hunter  (2) 10ebbor10, strongpoint
Attack plains on the second front (1) Strongpoint

Need to think more about the preferred front for spitters.
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« Reply #527 on: August 23, 2017, 12:02:46 pm »

That went very well. Is it a free action to put Reinforced Chitinous Armour on the workers? And if it is should we?

Nope, revision.  Pretty major change, since those armour types are distinct and have different maturation processes.
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« Reply #528 on: August 23, 2017, 12:14:01 pm »

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Move Spitters to Front 1 :(1) 10ebbor10
Do Not Move Spitters: (0)
Move Spitters to Front 3: (1) NUKE9.13


Reduce warrior 10% => Shift to Hunter  (2) 10ebbor10, strongpoint


Attack plains on the second front (2) Strongpoint, NUKE9.13
Attack forest on the second front (0)

Well, I want to move the spitters to front 3, to increase our chances of making progress there before it occurs to them that they can improve fortifications. As things stand progress is all but guaranteed, but if they spend an action to redirect reinforcements that way, Spitters might make the difference.
I don't think we need them on front 1, because even if that becomes a very serious problem, we have the fortifications at Menotos to give us sufficient time to deal with it.

Incidentally, I would like to revisit the matter of our princess whilst we have the chance. I'm not 100% sold on Novico, and the potential rewards are too great to go with anything less than the best.
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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #529 on: August 23, 2017, 12:38:54 pm »

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Move Spitters to Front 1 :(1) 10ebbor10
Do Not Move Spitters: (0)
Move Spitters to Front 3: (1) NUKE9.13

Reduce warrior 10% => Shift to Hunter  (2) 10ebbor10, strongpoint

Attack plains on the second front (2) Strongpoint, NUKE9.13
Attack forest on the second front (1) 10ebbor10

I'd like to attack the forest.

The enemy colonized the Northern forest in Latada just before we overran their forest on front 3, so they're clearly worried. If we can take the forest on front 2, they're down to a single forest of 3 Wood, half of what they had in the beginning of the game.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2017, 12:48:05 pm by 10ebbor10 »
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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #530 on: August 23, 2017, 12:42:45 pm »

If we can take a city, we would be able to increase our unit threshold by huge margins.
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« Reply #531 on: August 23, 2017, 12:47:38 pm »

If we can take a city, we would be able to increase our unit threshold by huge margins.
Taking the forest gets us equally close to taking a city as taking the plains would. :/

ebbor, the forest on front 2 is 2 wood.

The disadvantage to attacking the forest is that it likely reduces the effectiveness of ranged and charge attacks.
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« Reply #532 on: August 23, 2017, 12:49:56 pm »

Reducing the effectiveness of ranged is good, because we won't have any ranged on Front 2. Reducing the effectiveness of charge is disappointing, but that should be offset by boosting the Workers and warriors in melee. Also, the enemies lethal ballistae and cavalry shouldn't be good in the forest either.
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« Reply #533 on: August 23, 2017, 12:51:37 pm »

I don't expect workers to be good in the forest, either. They are too heavy to maneuver between the trees
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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #534 on: August 23, 2017, 12:51:58 pm »

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Move Spitters to Front 1 :(1) 10ebbor10
Do Not Move Spitters: (0)
Move Spitters to Front 3: (2) NUKE9.13, Flazeo25

Reduce warrior 10% => Shift to Hunter  (3) 10ebbor10, strongpoint, Flazeo25

Attack plains on the second front (2) Strongpoint, NUKE9.13
Attack forest on the second front (2) 10ebbor10, Flazeo25
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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #535 on: August 23, 2017, 01:02:21 pm »

I don't expect workers to be good in the forest, either. They are too heavy to maneuver between the trees

Workers are the size of dogs, and have stable limbs. They'll be fine.
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« Reply #536 on: August 23, 2017, 01:21:35 pm »

I am not ready to abandon this concept completely, so here are a modified version of a creative queen

Princess "Lamana v.2.0":
Gross physical anatomy: Lamana is based on something as mundane as regular worker drone. Core differences are:
-Enlarged abdomen.
-Brand new Reinforced Chitinous Armour.
-New limbs with four finger manipulator being replaced by one with four fingers and a new thumb. Special multi-chambered organ that hosts various bacteria for experimentation, assistance in digestion or manipulating microflora of her children

She doesn't lay huge batches of eggs but she lays few of them very often. Due to her size limitation she has some problems in developing large drones but she is more capable in growing many smaller eggs (worker sized are as easy\hard as for her mother. Larger are harder, smaller are easier)

Nutrition: Obligate Carnivorous Digestive System. She need it to power her strong mind and constantly lay many eggs. Additionally, she has an ability to move bacteria from her special organ to the stomach and choose perfect microflora according to a meal.

Environmental Tolerance&Defenses: Roughly similar(but better) to ones of a worker drone. She always have soldier bodyguards around

Personality:
Lamana have a keen mind of an inventor and don't hesitate to engage herself in creative activities using all worker's tools she has. She is infused with a sense of love toward her mother and have no ambitions beside inventing stuff for the good of the hive. Her main disadvantage is that she cares about lost drone children little too much, considering them to be a part of the family.
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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #537 on: August 23, 2017, 01:27:56 pm »

Well, I want to move the spitters to front 3, to increase our chances of making progress there before it occurs to them that they can improve fortifications. As things stand progress is all but guaranteed, but if they spend an action to redirect reinforcements that way, Spitters might make the difference.
I don't think we need them on front 1, because even if that becomes a very serious problem, we have the fortifications at Menotos to give us sufficient time to deal with it.

Incidentally, I would like to revisit the matter of our princess whilst we have the chance. I'm not 100% sold on Novico, and the potential rewards are too great to go with anything less than the best.

Different princess design, you say?

Hum...

The Shaper of Many
First daughter to the first Queen, the Shaper of Many is crafted with glorious purpose. While the Queen has brought forth the brood that shall inherit this world, it is the Shaper of Many who will sculpt them into worthy vessels of Her will. Her purpose is to pull apart the weak to build up the strong, to burn the flaws of the old in order to kindle a newer perfection, and to let the obsolete fall away to bring forth the dawn of a glorious new age.

Gross physical anatomy: The Shaper of Many is, in many ways, more refined than the queen. Her abdomen, though large compared to every other caste among the hive, is far less distended than that of her mother, and does not completely confine her to one location- though its size and weight still mean that she does require assistance to move any significant distance. Her limbs have been moved upwards, relative to her mother, giving her one less set of 'legs' and an additional set of forelimbs. Her forelimbs and head are where she diverges most readily from her mother, and where her purpose is made evident. Her forelimbs are refined, sporting razor sharp talons and perfect dexterity, working as a whole with the precision that would make a master surgeon weep. Her head is large and elongated, extended to house not only the multiple powerful eyes  which provide excellent visible-light vision and magnification as well as the best IR vision available (to observe her subject), but also to contain her extended brain (to understand her subject).

Nutrition:  The Shaper of Many is an obligate carnivore, and her hunger is rapacious. She is also a cannibal, dissecting and devouring the weak in order to learn their flaws.
Environmental Tolerance: The Shaper of Many, due to her slightly less vulnerable abdomen and less reproductive nature, can tolerate a wider variety of conditions. However, for her work she requires the atmospheric conditions to be as rigidly stabilized as possible, and thus also prefers underground dwellings.
Defences: The Shaper of Many is much less defenseless than the current Queen. Though nearly immobile, her vision is incredibly keen and she is fully capable of bending her surgical limbs to tear apart her foes. Of course, her honor guard is still her main defense, and it's comprised both of standard warriors, and whatever bizarre 'one-off' creatures she's presently experimenting with.
Personality: Like Mother, like daughter, the Shaper of Many is as cold as they come. Her ceaseless drive is a hunger to understand the world, to unlock the secrets written in her own flesh, and gain the knowledge to mold the biology of her people as easily as clay on a wheel. To her, the biology of the hive is a labyrinth, a puzzle. And while the paths of the flesh are plainly visible, its ways deceptively apparent, its destinations are unknown. Its secrets are still secret. It is the lure of the labyrinth that drives her constantly unlock those secrets. The Queen has manipulated and toyed with biology before her, but The Shaper of Many, as a consummate explorer of the flesh, will devote her life and energy to going further to tread the unknown corridors in order to find ultimately, the final solution.


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Move Spitters to Front 1 :(1) 10ebbor10
Do Not Move Spitters: (0)
Move Spitters to Front 3: (1) NUKE9.13


Reduce warrior 10% => Shift to Hunter  (2) 10ebbor10, strongpoint


Attack plains on the second front (2) Strongpoint, NUKE9.13
Attack forest on the second front (0)
Quote from: Princess Promenade
"Anatress": (1) Shadowclaw
"Novico": (5) Flazeo25, Crazyabe, Puppyguard, strongpoint, Urist Mc Dwarf
"Forest Princess" N.S.C.: (2) RAM, Wolfchild
"Silvia": (0)
"Lamana": (0)
"Minerva". (1) kopout
ebbor's unnamed queen: (1) NUKE9.13
The Shaper of Many:

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Re: Hive Race: The Hive
« Reply #538 on: August 23, 2017, 01:32:09 pm »

Quote from: Mnogumina

The creation of Mnogumina was as much an accident as it was a work of genius. Born from a single massive egg, the queen was afflicted by the rare Larval mitosis mutation. Though the mutation is often fatal even in normal drones, it appears to have been a complete success in this case. Instead of one large Queen, a dozen smaller ones emerged.

The "queen" is thus an accumulation of between 5-20 Soldier sized drones, united by a single Telepathic gestalt. Their armor is the classic flexible and see-through chitin of  juvenile swarm members, which helps greatly whenever any individual of the queen enters her breeding cycle. The laying process makes the body swell greatly to make room for the eggs, rendering the Queen bloated and immobile. As this process is physically exhausting for these undersized queens, it tends to be fatal within a fairly short time. Though this was initially thought to mean her imminent death, the Queen soon found that she could create additional selves to further her existence.

Nutrition : A Carnivoric digestive system is the only system that has found to supply energy effectively enough to produce eggs at tolerable rates, though the queen tries alternatives when she desires.

Environmental Tolerances and defenses : Juvenile armor leaves this Queen somewhat vulnerable, offset slightly by her plentitude and adaptable forms.

Personslity : A creature whose mind is split among a dozen bodies, who dies and is reborn bit by bit could hardly ever be considered sane. Among this queen it has resulted in a constant drive to improve and change the self, and a mind incapable of seeing the individuals within the swarm, recognizing only the greater whole.

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"Anatress": (1) Shadowclaw
"Novico": (5) Flazeo25, Crazyabe, Puppyguard, strongpoint, Urist Mc Dwarf
"Forest Princess" N.S.C.: (2) RAM, Wolfchild
"Silvia": (0)
"Lamana": (0)
"Minerva". (1) kopout
ebbor's unnamed queen: (1) NUKE9.13
The Shaper of Many
Mnogumina
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« Reply #539 on: August 23, 2017, 01:35:43 pm »

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Move Spitters to Front 1 :(2) 10ebbor10, Blood_Librarian
Do Not Move Spitters: (0)
Move Spitters to Front 3: (1) NUKE9.13


Reduce warrior 10% => Shift to Hunter  (3) 10ebbor10, strongpoint, Blood_Librarian


Attack plains on the second front (2) Strongpoint, NUKE9.13
Attack forest on the second front (0)

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"Anatress": (1) Shadowclaw
"Novico": (5) Flazeo25, Crazyabe, Puppyguard, strongpoint, Urist Mc Dwarf
"Forest Princess" N.S.C.: (2) RAM, Wolfchild
"Silvia": (0)
"Lamana": (0)
"Minerva". (1) kopout
Mnogumina: (1) NUKE9.13
The Shaper of Many: (1) Blood_Librarian
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