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Orion Trail
« on: July 27, 2017, 10:57:04 am »

The future was not quite what we expected. Instead of flying cars we got rising sea levels. Instead of superintelligent AI we got superinclement weather.
 At the close of 2030, preparations were being made to flee the earth in the face of an increasing number of hurricanes and "boil-outs", large patches of superheated water due to either solar winds or geothermal activity- scientists were too busy to research more deeply as dry land became more and more of a commodity.
By 2040, every able surviving hand was attempting to build either spacecraft or boats, depending on their level of optimism. Wealthy billionaires found their money and power rendered useless by simple factory workers who were more invested in building for themselves than for a wage. Ore, processing, design and fabrication operated off a simple barter system, with one thing of value to trade: Escape.
By the close of 2044, the mines supplying ore began to go underwater. In 2046, rogue weather tore apart the shed where parts were being fabricated. With families and homes being subsumed by the hour, a mass of humanity began piling into the rockets, the deserving and undeserving, those who bartered and those who just took. Eventually all spacecraft were full and the doors were shut, those left outside desperately attempting to gather up seaworthy scrap, or clinging to the outsides as the huge rockets engaged and sent the shuttles roaring into space, or at least most of them.
Following perhaps the only pre-determined and organised plan to do with the evacuation of earth, the shuttles were vaguely maneuvered together in orbit and bolted together (or at least most of them), before the final rocket stages were activated in order to leave earth orbit and begin the long pilgrimage. Perhaps to their doom, perhaps to a new home?


This in a "vs NPC" arms race, set on a creaky and unreliable generation ship on its way out of the solar system.
Your job as the research and design department will be attempting to make the ship actually spaceworthy, on the fly, with limited resources, whilst preserving the lives of its belligerent and unhelpful populace.

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Re: The Orion Trail (Yet another Arms Race)
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2017, 10:57:51 am »

Turn 1:
(The Ship needs a name), 2047

Zero gravity is a novelty for the children as much as it is a pain for the adults. Engineers enjoy the freedom whilst horticulturalists curse the difficulty it presents to their task.
Their task, unfortunately, is monumental. Civilians cram all available living space, and clamour for food there isn't room to grow and water they never learned to filter.

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The Design Phase has begun. You have 5 Dice.
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Re: The Orion Trail (Yet another Arms Race)
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2017, 12:09:59 pm »

1. What was/is the Arizona?
2. I put this question in the AR Hub as well, but could you, for the sake of any newbies/people not involved in Draignean's Arms Race (Definitely recommend that one, people who have never played it! Though first you ought to check out the earlier, simpler Arms Races, such as Wands Race and Intercontinental Arms Race, so you understand them).
3. Where are we relative to the ISS?
4. How many people are on the ISS?
5. Do we know anything else about Shanghai-14?
6. How many nationalities are on our spacecraft?

7. How about Odyssey? Odysseus?
Both are fairly fitting, though it must be admitted that we do not have any intention of returning to Earth...probably...
Anyone up for planet-size air conditioners?
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Re: The Orion Trail (Yet another Arms Race)
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2017, 12:18:22 pm »

Order
Have one quarter of the population isolated, terminated, and broken down into usable biological matter.

They can't very well expect us to survive in a ship that is quite literally crammed to the corners with people. We need to reduce our resource drain.
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Re: The Orion Trail (Yet another Arms Race)
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2017, 12:28:17 pm »

Eh, that seems like a great way to tank morale.

Anyway. This seems rather unwinnable.

Obviously the first problem is oxygen generation. We need to fix this this turn, or everyone suffocates.
We literally cannot fix this this turn. It takes a minimum of two turns to finish a design using Draignean's system.
Who the fuck was responsible for building these spacecraft that they forgot to provide oxygen generation.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2017, 12:47:57 pm »

Who the fuck was responsible for building these spacecraft that they forgot to provide oxygen generation.
Refugees. Refugees were.
Also whilst oxygen IS at the top of the list, your specialists won't really be affected by it for a few turns. Morale more-so, however.

1. What was/is the Arizona?
3. Where are we relative to the ISS?
4. How many people are on the ISS?
5. Do we know anything else about Shanghai-14?
6. How many nationalities are on our spacecraft?
1. A spacecraft. Probably populated by Arizonans. Contact was spotty and then progressively worse so they probably left the range of your radar and didn't collide with Jupiter.
3. ISS is in earth orbit. It has been left completely behind, but radio will be possible as long as you are
4. Population unknown. Some rockets decided to try and bolt onto it, some were welcomed, some repelled. Their food and water situation is far better short term because of MRE, but far worse in short term because not everyone was smart enough to bring a seed vault into space.
5. You can ask questions. They speak rather good *your language*
6. A majority of whatever population you wish, Forenians or whoever. A smattering of others.

Have one quarter of the population isolated, terminated, and broken down into usable biological matter
That will require a decent chunk of time and manpower, so it's a design.
Orders are possible, but are exclusively things civilians can basically be trusted to do on their own.
The selection, exsanguination and rendering of their family members into fertiliser would be done extremely inefficiently by the civilian population.
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Re: The Orion Trail (Yet another Arms Race)
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2017, 01:21:33 pm »

I would not use Draignean's system. It takes too long to get anything useful out of it. In fact, as NUKE said, we would literally run out of oxygen before deploying said oxygen system in Draignean's system. Judging from what Project PROMETHEUS has been seeing, we will struggle enough (If you keep the challenges coming) to keep up without needing to wait three turns before a solution can be implemented.

You could keep the dice and give us several different "areas" to work with (Technology, doctrine [who does what and when], government [Who is in charge and what decisions do they make], etc.) to make us spend them carefully, but everything should complete in one turn. Which means you ought to look at alternatives to the three-dice system, and ought to check how many dice we should get per turn.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2017, 01:34:35 pm »

I've tweaked it quite a bit now (for instance, a ship-wide cull and.. repurposing would be two time-parts, and cost Morale)
I'm trying to decide whether I should change it from three dice to two, but I am going for brutally difficult and grimdark, so I might as well see how fun it turns out to be.
If you die of dysentery, I'll tweak it some more and go again.
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Re: The Orion Trail (Yet another Arms Race)
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2017, 01:45:29 pm »

If designs were less expensive dice wise we might be able to do more.  Like 2 dice for a designs and 1 for a revision, since revisions seem a lot more powerful in this.

We need oxygen and a source of food so pulling something from one of my outpost games...

Design: Algae Tanks

Large drums with lighting in a column down the center.  The drum is filled with water and seeded with algae.  Pumping mechanisms provide CO2 and pull out oxygen.  The algae growth can be harvested as an alternative food source or worked into the hydroponics farms.  Like miniature oceans regulating oxygen in our little world.



Design: Fight Club

We set up a place where civilians can brutally fight each other to the viewing of others in zero gravity.  This will improve morale as gambling and general bloodsports do as well as result in the deaths of a few people to reduce the population.



We should also consider trying to harvest some asteroids or Jupiter moons or something if we can get ion engines up and running.  We desperately need resources, no way we can survive let alone go out of the solar system on what we have.

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Re: The Orion Trail (Yet another Arms Race)
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2017, 01:51:29 pm »

How about we AVOID killing off people, we'll need genetic diversity when we get where we're going.

Where are we going?

I think we need to get some form of plasma/ion thruster going ASAP. We're going to need to stop by some asteroids and possibly also a comet or three to collect materials.

Short-term plan:
Fix O2 situation
Water and food (Algae tank is a nice idea, in fact)
Thrusters and Power (Make plasma/ion thrusters to replace the chemical ones. Once developed, install them by disassembling the conventional thrusters for materials. Then we have a source of minor gravity as well. As for power, we either improve our solar panels, improve the efficiency (Use revisions) of our power-needing systems, or we make a fission generator. Then we adjust our course and begin constant reverse acceleration, so as to arrive at some convenient astronomical object with some form of metal content. We're going to need more materials to make this thing into an actual spaceship)

Long-term:
Make the ship a more cohesive whole, gradually recycle the shuttles into a larger, reinforced, shielded vessel capable of going through deep space (Will be continuous process)
Check Earth orbit for survivors?
Collect other vessels?
Arm the ship in case of hostile humans or even aliens
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Re: The Orion Trail (Yet another Arms Race)
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2017, 02:03:03 pm »

It sure would be nice if we hadn't used the last of our engine power to leave earth orbit. You know, the one filled with stuff you can use to build spaceships with (also known as other spaceships). Seriously, this whole enterprise is run by morons. They deserve whatever happens to them.

Well, what can you do. I'll vote for Algae Tanks.

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I agree that we should see about getting some engines soon, so that we can turn around and return to earth orbit, and then spend a few turns vacuuming up every other spacecraft there. I'm sure the ISS wouldn't miss a few bits and pieces. Maybe we could design some guns in case the occupants object.
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Re: The Orion Trail (Yet another Arms Race)
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2017, 02:13:20 pm »

Design: Algae Tanks B

Large drums with lighting Internally-suspended sun lamp producing light at 430 nm and 620 nm that mildly heats and brightens the water, with a reflective inner and outer surface and insulation so no energy is lost. The drumtubes are filled with water and seeded with algae.  Pumping mechanisms provide CO2 and pull out oxygen.  The algae growth can be harvested as an alternative food source or worked into the hydroponics farms.  Like miniature oceans regulating oxygen in our little world. The idea is to eventually expand these so that they are present in every part of the ship, reducing our need to maintain a ventilation system and reduce power usage


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Re: The Orion Trail (Yet another Arms Race)
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2017, 02:40:37 pm »

Just call it an internally-suspended lamp that mildly heats and brightens the water, with a reflective inner surface and insulation so no energy is lost, and the ATB has my vote.
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Re: The Orion Trail (Yet another Arms Race)
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2017, 02:56:42 pm »

Done
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Re: The Orion Trail (Yet another Arms Race)
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2017, 02:59:47 pm »

Food isn't at a completely critical level. Google claims that standard daily caloric intake is 2500 for men and 2000 for women (averaged to 2250), while long-term starvation rations for sedentary people are 2000 and 1200 (averaged to 1600). 1600/2250 = 71%, while we're making 73% of what we need. Morale will suffer, of course, but we shouldn't be having a quarter of our populace outright die of starvation.

I'm not sure algae is a great idea, given our limited water supplies. We might be better off with an inorganic oxygen scrubber and spending revise dice on a solar panel expansion and a morale action (government or a basic clinic probably). Disease will be a problem soon, given cramped conditions and lacking sanitation. Even without medical supplies, seeing a doctor would help morale, and having a sickbay is better than sick people sleeping in the corridors with everyone else.

Let's send a message to the Elysium to ask if they have any fuel. If they can get a ship to us when our orbit next gets us near Earth, we can trade them some seeds.
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