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[Tiruin]

Spoiler: Kashyyk likes talking to himself (click to show/hide)

If you were to take the military subsidy, the Empire would want to relocate those Imperials elsewhere.

Here are some more options that include an economic subsidy:

Option 4: Trade with the Empire. Alliance territory may be used as a Staging Area for Imperial Forces. For every £50 block of Alliance investment in a territory the Empire will add another £10. Moderate Imperial Garrison across all Alliance territories.

Option 5: Trade with the Empire. Alliance territory may be used as a Staging Area for Imperial Forces. For every £100 total the Alliance spends on industrial or economic buildings or territory investment the Empire will pay £10 to the Alliance treasury.

Spoiler: Kashyyk has a nice name (click to show/hide)

On Option 4, is that at the same 'persuadability' of option 1? Because my main focus is using the Empire's troops to my own means-

I mean I can explain all of that! I swear!

But back to seriousness, any difference between Option 4 and 1? Other than monies?
What about Option 3 and 1? May I have the most mechanical technicalities explained? :3

Because otherwise I'm going with Option 1. solely because I can boop them with their upkeep to control them. Probably for a turn.

[Kashyyk]

Spoiler: Kashyyk has a nice name (click to show/hide)

On Option 4, is that at the same 'persuadability' of option 1? Because my main focus is using the Empire's troops to my own means-

I mean I can explain all of that! I swear!

But back to seriousness, any difference between Option 4 and 1? Other than monies?
What about Option 3 and 1? May I have the most mechanical technicalities explained? :3

Because otherwise I'm going with Option 1. solely because I can boop them with their upkeep to control them. Probably for a turn.

Spoiler: Tiruin does too (click to show/hide)

Option 4's persuadability is the same as Option 3. There will also be a dedicated garrison in Alliance lands with both Option 3 & 4, compared to the irregular presence with Option 1. Every time you invest £50 in a block into a single territory's basic income, the empire will invest another £10. Investing £25 in two different territories will get you nothing. Investing £49 in every territory will get you nothing. Investing £100 in the same territory will get you £20.

[Nirur Torir]

A pair of messengers are dispatched from Pollock: Veteran macemanders, carrying fake written missives and the real message memorized.

Spoiler: Tiruin (click to show/hide)

Pollock wishes to acquire your diplomatic knowledge, and has knowledge of healing herbs in exchange. Is this acceptable?

I also have a proposal for a join research venture-
((Imperial Diplomacy - A tier 2 tech building on Diplomacy and Imperial Law, aiming for a deeper understanding of the Imperial chain of command and the major overseers interacting with the players, their desires, and how to best get deals with The Empire. Allows the Imperial Diplomatic Corps building: Improves relations. May inform the owner of incoming shenanigans, with options to mitigate them. Improves deals and rewards, and reduces punishments.))

The proposal is that The Alliance of Revakn and Bannerstock Mining Guild both give Pollock $750. Pollock conducts the research, with $1000 of our own (($2500 is enough to 100% chance a difficulty 40 tech)). We then share our findings to both of you. The findings and associated studies may be freely shared by any of us afterwards.
Under the proposal, $375 is to be sent on the year when The Alliance of Revakn can share their diplomatic skills, with the other $375[ payed when our imperial diplomatic studies are shared.

Spoiler: Sheb (click to show/hide)

I come with a proposal for a joint research venture.
((Imperial Diplomacy - A tier 2 tech building on Diplomacy and Imperial Law, aiming for a deeper understanding of the Imperial chain of command and the major overseers interacting with the players, their desires, and how to best get deals with The Empire. Allows the Imperial Diplomatic Corps building: Improves relations. May inform the owner of incoming shenanigans, with options to mitigate them. Improves deals and rewards, and reduces punishments.))

The proposal is that The Alliance of Revakn and Bannerstock Mining Guild both give Pollock $750. Pollock conducts the research, with $1000 of our own (($2500 is enough to 100% chance a difficulty 40 tech)). We then share our findings to both of you. The findings and associated studies may be freely shared by any of us afterwards.
Under the proposal, $375 is to be sent on the year when The Alliance of Revakn can share their diplomatic skills, with the other $375[ payed when our imperial diplomatic studies are shared.

[Sheb]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Agreed.

[Tiruin]

A pair of messengers are dispatched from Pollock: Veteran macemanders, carrying fake written missives and the real message memorized.

Spoiler: Tiruin (click to show/hide)

Pollock wishes to acquire your diplomatic knowledge, and has knowledge of healing herbs in exchange. Is this acceptable?

I also have a proposal for a join research venture-
((Imperial Diplomacy - A tier 2 tech building on Diplomacy and Imperial Law, aiming for a deeper understanding of the Imperial chain of command and the major overseers interacting with the players, their desires, and how to best get deals with The Empire. Allows the Imperial Diplomatic Corps building: Improves relations. May inform the owner of incoming shenanigans, with options to mitigate them. Improves deals and rewards, and reduces punishments.))

The proposal is that The Alliance of Revakn and Bannerstock Mining Guild both give Pollock $750. Pollock conducts the research, with $1000 of our own (($2500 is enough to 100% chance a difficulty 40 tech)). We then share our findings to both of you. The findings and associated studies may be freely shared by any of us afterwards.
Under the proposal, $375 is to be sent on the year when The Alliance of Revakn can share their diplomatic skills, with the other $375[ payed when our imperial diplomatic

Post8ng by phone. Badgrammar ahead.

Spoiler: Nirur (click to show/hide)

Did we make the trade of weaponsmithing for Inperial Law? Because thats solidly going to be kept secret.

Also sure on alk counts on the joint research treaty. We howver would like to be updated on this "Bannerstock Guild".

Otherwise, we'd like the research to be traded Asap (also our caravan mustve hit), as we plan on controlling and manipulating meeting an envoy in 2 turns from now.

Spoiler: To Kashyyk, best name (click to show/hide)

So Im posting by phone. Ill go with option 1 as Im pretty much going to use Imperials for my benefiy and NOT let thrm attack my allies.
Aside-query: As a mechanical viewpoint, while I may be caught and etd on sensing Imperials to their deaths, I believe option 1 may help more than rejecting and rebelling outright.
May it be possible to ask for a "revisit" in 2 turns to sweeten the deal? For situational-reporting?

That said, may I know what Espionage gives?

[Kashyyk]

of command and the major

Spoiler: To Kashyyk, best name (click to show/hide)

So Im posting by phone. Ill go with option 1 as Im pretty much going to use Imperials for my benefiy and NOT let thrm attack my allies.
Aside-query: As a mechanical viewpoint, while I may be caught and etd on sensing Imperials to their deaths, I believe option 1 may help more than rejecting and rebelling outright.
May it be possible to ask for a "revisit" in 2 turns to sweeten the deal? For situational-reporting?

That said, may I know what Espionage gives?

Spoiler: Tiruin-chan (click to show/hide)

 Wow your phone typing is even worse than mine,  where Kashyyk  autocorrects to Kathryn.

Anyway, you can definitely ask for a revisit, expect it to only have minor adjustments to whichever you pick though.

Espionage creates another unit, the spymaster. It has a bunch of abilities like the diplomat from sabotage through theft and information gathering to anti-spy. Appropriate RP actions can use them in other logical ways as well.

[Tiruin]

Spoiler: Tiruin-chan (click to show/hide)

 Wow your phone typing is even worse than mine,  where Kashyyk  autocorrects to Kathryn.

Anyway, you can definitely ask for a revisit, expect it to only have minor adjustments to whichever you pick though.

Espionage creates another unit, the spymaster. It has a bunch of abilities like the diplomat from sabotage through theft and information gathering to anti-spy. Appropriate RP actions can use them in other logical ways as well.

Spoiler: Last Query! (click to show/hide)

Ok Kathryn, just curious if soldiers in my lands = intel for the Empire

Also just joking on the name even if it is cute and silly for you.
...I don't know how to keyboard better on a phone D: But I'm now on my laptoppy so we're all good.

Copying Option 1 now
And the 'please visit again in 2 years' [please tell me if this results in added benefits :3 I'm aiming for economic bonus akin to Op4 if possible, but otherwise, more suggestibility on the soldiers in the least]

[Kashyyk]

Spoiler: Last Query! (click to show/hide)

Ok Kathryn, just curious if soldiers in my lands = intel for the Empire

Also just joking on the name even if it is cute and silly for you.
...I don't know how to keyboard better on a phone D: But I'm now on my laptoppy so we're all good.

Copying Option 1 now
And the 'please visit again in 2 years' [please tell me if this results in added benefits :3 I'm aiming for economic bonus akin to Op4 if possible, but otherwise, more suggestibility on the soldiers in the least]

Spoiler: Last Answer! (click to show/hide)

Any unit in a territory will give some sort of information, but it'll be very vague unless it's from a spy. Think "They got some heavily manned fortifications and they farm something I don't recognise" vs "They have a castle, 3 units of archers, two units of spearmen, a farm, Citrus and take £342 tax/turn"

The later visit will depend entirely on what happens. If the Empire is happy with the arrangement you may get some more out of it.

[Criptfeind]

Spoiler: A final request of the empire (click to show/hide)

Since this decision, of how to incorporate ourselves into the empire, is quite the momentous one, we feel that it's only appropriate to convene a council of representatives from every house in order to discuss it at lengths, such a debate takes a long time, and gathering the various houses takes even longer. We would ask that you give us one year of time to discuss, and then we'll render our final verdict.

[Kashyyk]

Spoiler: A final request of the empire (click to show/hide)

Since this decision, of how to incorporate ourselves into the empire, is quite the momentous one, we feel that it's only appropriate to convene a council of representatives from every house in order to discuss it at lengths, such a debate takes a long time, and gathering the various houses takes even longer. We would ask that you give us one year of time to discuss, and then we'll render our final verdict.

Spoiler: Response (click to show/hide)

Bearing in mind that tax debt will continue to be accrued in this time, a years leave is granted.

[Kashyyk]

I apologise Ghaz, I must have missed your message among the slew of spoilers.

Spoiler:  To the Imperial Ambassador (click to show/hide)

Finally! Finally the Empire has sent someone else. Your last ambassador including our entire tax AND the treasure fleet transporting it got sunk by whatever dwells on Biting. Repeated attempts to recover at least the taxes have failed and any men sent as messengers to you were also attacked and sunk. I have no idea whats going on on that island but could you ask the Imperial Court to send an expedition to help cleanse the Island? Thus we could recover the lost taxes and avenge the death of that poor ambassador.

Spoiler: Imperial Response (click to show/hide)

That is awful news, I will make sure an imperial detachment searches for them. However, that begs the question of why you did not endevour to inform us of this incident. If you had done so immediately, there is the chance we may have found survivors,
 but after all this time I'm concerned there will be no one left. However we would still require the tax owed since my predecessors visit at te very least, namely £1072. I trust that will not be an issue?

[Kashyyk]

Double post! For GM Justice.

Hey, for that matter, Kashyyk, Im posting on fon. How does that scenario work for your Fiefdoms (Updoot when? :3)

I think I mentioned it in here already, but everyone moves, then everyone fights, so if you move an army into a territory to defend it, those soldiers will get there on time. This ends up looking a bit odd with blitzkreig style "move > fight > move > fight", but oh well.

Updoot will be once I get some more turns off people. Apparently I missed Ghaz's post earlier, but I'm still waiting on snow dwarf and micelus.

[Tiruin]

What happens if two adjacent, hostile territories have an army in,  and each army is ordered to attack the other?  Do they swap territories without a fight? Do they meet in the middle, both using their attack stats, with the survivor advancing to claim the territory?

Edit: What happens if instead of being in adjacent territory one army is one step back and is moving to defend his land? What if it's a unit with double moment and he travels through the undefended land to attack, whilst the hostile army attempts to take the undefended land?

I think these questions being answered will help everyone

I thinj that only got the question "what happens if ywo armies attach a third province".
Does the province owner influence who is defender or attacker?
Do both armies usr their attack value instead?
What if the province is a neutral one?
Can we reasonably expect all Imperial regions to have walls?

[Kashyyk]

In this game, everyone moves before doing stuff, then maybe moves again, so:

What happens if two adjacent, hostile territories have an army in, and each army is ordered to attack the other? Do they swap territories without a fight? Do they meet in the middle, both using their attack stats, with the survivor advancing to claim the territory?
They will swap territories without a fight.

Edit: What happens if instead of being in adjacent territory one army is one step back and is moving to defend his land?
The defender will get there in time to defend.

What if it's a unit with double moment and he travels through the undefended land to attack, whilst the hostile army attempts to take the undefended land?
They will swap territories.

Does the province owner influence who is defender or attacker? Do both armies use their attack value instead?
Province owner will always be the defender, thus will use his defence stat.

What if the province is a neutral one?
I'll flip a coin to decide who fights the neutral defenders first. If they win, they'll become the defenders against the other player.

Can we reasonably expect all Imperial regions to have walls?
No comment.

[Ghazkull]

Spoiler: Imperial Response (click to show/hide)

That is awful news, I will make sure an imperial detachment searches for them. However, that begs the question of why you did not endevour to inform us of this incident. If you had done so immediately, there is the chance we may have found survivors,
 but after all this time I'm concerned there will be no one left. However we would still require the tax owed since my predecessors visit at te very least, namely £1072. I trust that will not be an issue?

Spoiler:  Answer (click to show/hide)

Well we tried, but our messengers got sunk repeatedly, we assume that whoever is on that island has spies in our court. I would send you the remaining money but i am afraid it will be sunk as well as long as this problem persists.
If the Empire can solve the issue coming from Biting the Seas might be safe enough again to send the treasure fleet with the outstanding taxes.