unguided torpedoes are super inaccurate and therefore ineffective? I suppose WWII Britain had absolutely nothing to fear from those German u-boats then, must have been all exaggeration. Guess things like "leading your target" and trigonometry also don't exist in this universe either? FYI most of the Battle of the Atlantic was fought with unguided torpedoes.
Did W.W.II Britain lose many military vessels to subs? Merchant fleets don't seem to exist in this war, and I was under the impression that unguided torpedoes had far fewer difficulties against transport craft...
Then again, if they invest in torpedoes to hunt subs, they will have wasted that effort when we build ekranoplans...
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unguided torpedoes are super inaccurate and therefore ineffective? I suppose WWII Britain had absolutely nothing to fear from those German u-boats then, must have been all exaggeration. Guess things like "leading your target" and trigonometry also don't exist in this universe either? FYI most of the Battle of the Atlantic was fought with unguided torpedoes.
Compared to ASMs? Of course they are, that's why as the war went on they were cramming more and more torpedo tubes on, because you needed to fire multiple torpedoes at once to ensure a kill, or so you could engage multiple targets back to back.
If guided anti-ship missiles didn't have a massive advantage in accuracy over torpedoes then they wouldn't have completely supplanted them? What's the point of having torpedoes when anti-ship missiles are available to us right now and they're more accurate, have more range, and just as much firepower as our current torpedoes?
I was not arguing that unguided torpedoes are more effective than ASMs, so quit twisting my words. Yes, ASMs are better. But I don't believe that we'll get a functioning
and effective missile submarine this turn (say, one that holds more than a couple of Saltseekers), while we stand a good chance of getting a torpedo one. And because the Cannalans again,
have nothing at all to counter a submarine, a torpedo sub would be just as effective as a missile one.OK, so, U-Boats were deadly. Not so much to prepared military fleets, but it took the British and Americans YEARS to make ASW capable of seriously protecting a fleet if the Germans sent a U-boat wolfpack against one. A gamechanger at this point, however, they won't be. Next turn looks like "Cannala rolls out sonar and a depth charge revision, your mines and subs are now useless, bow before the Cannalan Navy". Even if we then produce a missile sub. A better option would be missile destroyers and a revision to stop our missiles from somehow having worse range than the Cannalan missiles, which might as well be using a flipping LIQUID ROCKET ENGINE for all the efficiency its getting (namely, it is somehow running a ramjet that can have an efficiency of no more than 600 seconds [upper edge of liquid-fueled rockets] and outranging us, while being cheaper and possibly even lighter than our missile. Conventional jet engines have efficiencies in the thousands or better).
The low-altitude bomber is the best option. It allows us to preemptively ignore hostile SAMs, will hopefully be Cheap, and will be capable of all sorts of fun roles (We could, for instance, revise an ARM [anti-radiation missile, flies back along a hostile's radar beam to kill the radar station] this turn, and ruin the enemies' radar systems). However it needs to be carrier-capable, or really REALLY should be, anyway, and I don't think it mentions that.
Cannalan spending both design and revision on sonar and depth charges is the BEST CASE scenario for plan Das Boot. Those two things are completely unsuited against a missile sub, so they'll have wasted their turn while we're up one good missile submarine. Plus, sonar and depth charges alone aren't that effective against submarines, see
here and
here.
Also, there isn't such a thing as a hard counter in this game. We've introduced radar-guided AA and SAMs, but the Cannalan Chupacabra still has some effect on our troops, as quoted:
The Chupacabra is one advantage of the Cannalans which is great here, and will probably never be completely negated by the variety of defenses now arrayed at it.
If we introduce a submarine to the naval theater, its effect will also never be completely blocked by whatever the Cannalans come up with to counter it. Those countermeasures might be very effective, but then they'll take multiple actions, so we come out ahead in action economy when we obsolete the attack sub with a missile one.
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