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Total Members Voted: 106

[piratejoe]

Since it seems normal ERA wont win, and I want a 50. cal...

M4 Kiger HMG: (2) Madman198237, Piratejoe
'Archer' Pattern F: (0)
'Archer' Pattern G: (1) NAV
BLOODLESS EAGLE: (2) Taricus, evictedSaint
BLOODIER EAGLE: (0)

[NAV]

-M1 Stallion: This is a belt-fed machine gun using the enormous, thundering .60 caliber round, exactly twice the diameter of the .30 caliber or 7.62mm rounds. It is a cumbersome weapon, with a large box for the mechanism, and a narrow water-cooled barrel with copper heat sinks. The range and stopping power of the .60 caliber round is undiminished, but the gun only fires about 180 times a minute, relatively slow for a machine gun- because of its size, it might be better described as an autocannon. The gun hits in very tight groups for a machinegun, but it is heavy and can only be pivoted slowly, meaning only very skilled gunners can be accurate at long range. It normally moved by horse on a small wagon, although the new lighter model can be carried in parts by a crew, and is crewed by a team of four or five men. Sometimes mounted on a raised stand to aim at aircraft. Costs 2 ore.

If we really need a HMG that bad we should consider revising the stallion to be lighter and have higher ROF. And reduce crew requirements to 3. Bring it up to modern standards.

If we don't revise an HMG this round we should bring the Stallion back into service temporarily as Sensei suggested.

[Taricus]

Well the AC18 is basically motorbike mounted (Well, sidecar mounted but still.) and only 40kg whilst also being portable. Probably be better just lugging those around as infantry portable anti-armour emplacements.

[Wolfhunter107]

M4 Kiger HMG: (2) Madman198237, Piratejoe
'Archer' Pattern F: (1)Wolfhunter107
'Archer' Pattern G: (1) NAV
BLOODLESS EAGLE: (2) Taricus, evictedSaint
BLOODIER EAGLE: (0)

[helmacon]

M4 Kiger HMG: (2) Madman198237, Piratejoe
'Archer' Pattern F: (2)Wolfhunter107, Helmacon
'Archer' Pattern G: (1) NAV
BLOODLESS EAGLE: (2) Taricus, evictedSaint
BLOODIER EAGLE: (0)

[RAM]

M4 Kiger HMG: (2) Madman198237, Piratejoe
BLOODLESS EAGLE: (2) Taricus, evictedSaint
BLOODIER EAGLE: (0)
Chum: (0)
'Archer' Pattern F: (2)Wolfhunter107, Helmacon
'Archer' Pattern G: (1) NAV

Is leaving out my proposals some sort of new sporting event? I put them back into order of when they were posted...And manually did the link for M4, so it could be wrong...

[Taricus]

The Kiger link works. Though the design is HERESY due to not using the proper designations provided by the forms.

[Powder Miner]

M4 Kiger HMG: (2) Madman198237, Piratejoe
BLOODLESS EAGLE: (2) Taricus, evictedSaint
BLOODIER EAGLE: (0)
Chum: (0)
'Archer' Pattern F: (3)Wolfhunter107, Helmacon, Powder Miner
'Archer' Pattern G: (1) NAV

[RAM]

Arch-SD-1940-lol Reachr Mark Blue-and-Orange Ship Destroyer.
Realising that our archers are truly, ridiculously, and inevitably outgunned by enemy pocket-cruisers by-any-other-name we have given up on conventional ship weaponry and the conventional 'keepaway' of the old torpedo-boat destroyer doctrine. We still need onls-style archers, but no amount of revision will bring them up to the specifications needed to deal with the current situation. Instead, we remove all but one of the Bumblebee turrets(because completely forgoing air defense is a level of insanity that not even we would stoop to given urrent circumstances...) leaving a single 360 degree rotation electric model at the back. The bunblebee keeps company with a pair of UF-MRL-40 'SARUKH' aft turrets while the fore section Features two rows of three such devices sandwiching a central row of 8 UF-MRL-40 'SARUKH' turrets. The intention being to launch massive salvoes at larger ships and then withdraw to reload, taking advantage of the small and light nature of such weapons and their rapid ordnance deployment to make CanLambs look up and cry from their tin-cans...

These would obviously be deployed alongside traditional archers for aforementioned 'keepaway' against torpedo boats and aeroplanes.

M4 Kiger HMG: (2) Madman198237, Piratejoe
BLOODLESS EAGLE: (2) Taricus, evictedSaint
BLOODIER EAGLE: (0)
Chum: (0)
'Archer' Pattern F: (3)Wolfhunter107, Helmacon, Powder Miner
'Archer' Pattern G: (1) NAV
"Reachr" Ship Destroyer: (0)

[Strongpoint]

Lack of focus guys, lack of focus. We got good rockets and should use them for the most possible effect before enemy can adapt.

UF-ALR-40 'SHARUKH
UF-ALR-40(aircraft launched rocket)-40 is a modification of rockets used in a MRLS with a similar name. This rockets can use standard Forenian bomb mounts and intended to be used for air-to-ship and air-to-ground roles.

M4 Kiger HMG: (2) Madman198237, Piratejoe
BLOODLESS EAGLE: (2) Taricus, evictedSaint
BLOODIER EAGLE: (0)
Chum: (0)
'Archer' Pattern F: (3)Wolfhunter107, Helmacon, Powder Miner
'Archer' Pattern G: (1) NAV
"Reachr" Ship Destroyer: (0)
UF-ALR-40 'SHARUKH:(1) Strongpoint

Rockets are a Forenian way! Rockets will bring us victory!

[evictedSaint]

The problem is our planes dont always kill the ships before they get close, meaning we have to rely on our destroyers to keep them safe.  Our destroyers suck and need an upgun.

Pattern F is a traditional upgun and uparmor from Bumblebees to B2 and Light to Medium, respectively.
Pattern G is a rocket variant upgun and also uparmors from Light to Medium.

[Strongpoint]

Problem is that we need to push jungles and not spread our attention till we get 4\4. Rocket equipped aircrafts will be useful there, destroyers won't.

[RAM]

Lack of focus guys, lack of focus. We got good rockets and should use them for the most possible effect before enemy can adapt.

UF-ABR-40 "Shower Curtain"
UF-ABR-40(aircraft Boosting rocket)-40 is a modification of rockets used in a MRLS with a similar name. This rocket can use standard Forenian Drop-tank mounts and intended to be used for air superiority roles. Its fuel is split into five sections, to be deployed sequentially when triggered. This grants the aeroplane 'the power of 20 engines for a perior of 20 seconds'*, making them the most powerful thing in the air by a large margin, 5 times. They can then drop the unpowered warhead... This grants slow but durable craft with absurd carrying capacity** the performance they need to quickly overwhelm and defeat an opponent with a well-timed manoeuvre.
*Dramatic effect in play, not likely to be accurate
**Barely veiled insult, you know who you are

M4 Kiger HMG: (2) Madman198237, Piratejoe
BLOODLESS EAGLE: (2) Taricus, evictedSaint
BLOODIER EAGLE: (0)
Chum: (0)
'Archer' Pattern F: (3)Wolfhunter107, Helmacon, Powder Miner
'Archer' Pattern G: (1) NAV
"Reachr" Ship Destroyer: (0)
UF-ALR-40 'SHARUKH:(1) Strongpoint
UF-ABR-40 "Shower Curtain":(0)

Rockets are a Forenian way! Rockets will bring us victory!

[Madman198237]

M4 Kiger HMG: (0)
SHMG-40 War Horse: (3) Madman198237, Piratejoe, evictedSaint
BLOODLESS EAGLE: (1) Taricus
BLOODIER EAGLE: (0)
Chum: (0)
'Archer' Pattern F: (3)Wolfhunter107, Helmacon, Powder Miner
'Archer' Pattern G: (1) NAV
"Reachr" Ship Destroyer: (0)
UF-ALR-40 'SHARUKH:(1) Strongpoint
UF-ABR-40 "Shower Curtain":(0)

I'm going to tentatively switch my vote to updating whatever that old Moskurger Horsekiller MG was...This thing, right?

-M1 Stallion: This is a belt-fed machine gun using the enormous, thundering .60 caliber round, exactly twice the diameter of the .30 caliber or 7.62mm rounds. It is a cumbersome weapon, with a large box for the mechanism, and a narrow water-cooled barrel with copper heat sinks. The range and stopping power of the .60 caliber round is undiminished, but the gun only fires about 180 times a minute, relatively slow for a machine gun- because of its size, it might be better described as an autocannon. The gun hits in very tight groups for a machinegun, but it is heavy and can only be pivoted slowly, meaning only very skilled gunners can be accurate at long range. It normally moved by horse on a small wagon, although the new lighter model can be carried in parts by a crew, and is crewed by a team of four or five men. Sometimes mounted on a raised stand to aim at aircraft. Costs 2 ore.

Revise it to something like this:

SHMG-40 War Horse: An updated M1 Stallion, this frightful piece of equipment replaces the water-cooled barrel with a modern air-cooled easily replaceable barrel, which allows the cyclic rate of fire to be increased to 400 RPM, to bring it on par with weapons like the M2 Browning. It is, in general, improved in every way we've learned about since it was first made. It is much easier and smoother to traverse and elevate, increasing accuracy and decreasing gunner fatigue. It also uses every weight-saving measure possible, including a large number of aluminum parts. Now requiring a much smaller team, the gun can be moved by the crew intact, on foot with separately-carried spiked tripod, or with a small wheeled cart pulled by the gun team.

[Mulisa]

M4 Kiger HMG: (0)
SHMG-40 War Horse: (4) Madman198237, Piratejoe, evictedSaint, Mulisa
BLOODLESS EAGLE: (1) Taricus
BLOODIER EAGLE: (0)
Chum: (0)
'Archer' Pattern F: (3)Wolfhunter107, Helmacon, Powder Miner
'Archer' Pattern G: (1) NAV
"Reachr" Ship Destroyer: (0)
UF-ALR-40 'SHARUKH:(1) Strongpoint
UF-ABR-40 "Shower Curtain":(0)