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Which team did you play in the last game?

Glorious Arstotzka
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Glorious Moskurg
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Ingloriously Didn't Play
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Author Topic: Intercontinental Arms Race: Finale  (Read 591576 times)

evictedSaint

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1485 on: May 14, 2017, 01:14:55 am »
Considering the UK already has ship-based radar (they actually developed it last year) our Deadlier Ray is worthless to them.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1486 on: May 14, 2017, 01:15:32 am »
..Uuugh.
I'm just going to remove my vote for the time being.

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STRATEGY
9 Attack the plains: Powder Miner, Taricus, Piratejoe, NUKE9.13,Stabby, Andrea, Hibou, Lightforger, Madman198237
9 Attack the jungle: Powder Miner, Taricus, Piratejoe, NUKE9.13,Stabby, Andrea, Hibou, Lightforger, Madman198237
7 Don't deploy the ERA: Powder Miner, Taricus, Andrea, Piratejoe, Hibou, Lightforger, Madman198237

DIPLOMACY
8 Join the Allies: Powder Miner, Stabby, Hibou, Lightforger, Madman198237, Piratejoe, S34N1C, evictedSaint
4 --Send them the Stinger: Powder Miner, Stabby, VoidSlayer, evictedSaint
3 --Send them the RDN-39-2 "DEADLIER RAY": Lightforger, Baffler, Hibou
1 --Send them the Firecracker (+ all of its variants): Madman198237

7 Join the Axis: Taricus, NUKE9.13, RAM, Andrea, NAV, strongpoint, Baffler
3 --Send the Axis the RPG28A: Taricus, Andrea, strongpoint
0 --Send the Reckless Effect:
2 --Send the Tiger Armour: Piratejoe, NAV
1 --Send them the Firecracker (+ all of its variants): Madman198237

3 Join Comintern: Mulisa, VoidSlayer, Azzuro
2 --Send Stinger: Mulisa, VoidSlayer
1 --Send AS-AR34: Azzuro
1 --Send them the Firecracker (+ all of its variants): Madman198237

I know the Axis would probably be the best in terms of immediate reward, but.. ugh.
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You should really look to the wilderness for your stealth ideas, it has been doing it much longer than you have after all. Take squids for example, that ink trick works pretty well, and in water too! So you just sneak into the dam upsteam, dump several megatons of distressed squid into it, then break the dam. Boom, you suddenly have enough water-proof stealth for a whole city!

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1487 on: May 14, 2017, 01:17:20 am »
Immediate and future rewards if we keep getting research credits from them.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1488 on: May 14, 2017, 01:22:05 am »
Sensei has to be well aware of the discussion we've had regarding which credit is better, so it's a bit of a farefetched conclusion to make that each side is gonna have the exact same credit type every time, not to mention that such lack of variety is pretty damn unlikely.

Chiefwaffles, something of note: Sensei has confirmed that joining the Axis means that there's strong external political pressure to go fascist.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1489 on: May 14, 2017, 01:24:02 am »
Something we need to do, save Rommel. Make sure we change history and do this.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1490 on: May 14, 2017, 01:29:13 am »
Quote from: Powder Miner on May 14, 2017, 01:22:05 am
Chiefwaffles, something of note: Sensei has confirmed that joining the Axis means that there's strong external political pressure to go fascist.
At the same time though, this doesn't necessarily preclude democracy. Sure it does mean we do have to have a strong head of state that is effectively a dictator but we can put in parliamentary limitations on them.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1491 on: May 14, 2017, 01:35:08 am »
Well we CAN change generals, or possibly even add more generals? Poaching Rommel seems impossible, but if we continuously send requests for ever worsening conditions, then Hitler may consider sending him to us as a means of getting rid of him...

Capturing him seems completely impossible. As for long-term benefits? Well, we can imagine that we may get technologies from them? Axis really has the best reward right now, and insane research is pretty much their thing, so that is unlikely to change. But long term we really don't know, but can only imagine that it extends into the fields at which they excel at. Axis is very nice for jet-fighters and guns. If they care to share their 8.8cm gun then we could just laugh all the way to the bank...

Allies consistently seemed to have the best navies, and should be good for experience, at least with basic hull-work and such on large ships. But don't forget that the axis had some fantastic naval performance at times, again, typically from unconventional tactics. What we really need to do is join the axis and then break Enigma. Then they will have to change it...

but this is all specualtion and conjecture. All that we really know is what we get right now, and that is a sweet sweet research credit...

Can we go neutral and get Swiss Pikemen?
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1492 on: May 14, 2017, 01:36:21 am »
Unlikely. And if we don't choose a faction and they do, they're going to have that bonus a turn ahead of ours.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1493 on: May 14, 2017, 01:38:14 am »
>Strong head of state that is effectively a dictator
Kind of definitionally contradictory to freedom, that.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1494 on: May 14, 2017, 01:44:31 am »
Not necessarily, since we can still mandate that only parliament introduces bills (Though they need the support of the dictator to implement it)
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1495 on: May 14, 2017, 01:54:01 am »
You can't have an effective dictator without, you know, having an effective dictator, Taricus. You are acknowledging yourself that you'd be suborning the government to a strong central head of state, and that in and of itself is A. Not an ultrafree action, hi El Presidente, and B. leads near inevitably to an unfree state, hi El Presidente.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1496 on: May 14, 2017, 01:57:02 am »
OH well, guess you can't have everything :P
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1497 on: May 14, 2017, 02:00:41 am »
Liberties, shmiberties.
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You should really look to the wilderness for your stealth ideas, it has been doing it much longer than you have after all. Take squids for example, that ink trick works pretty well, and in water too! So you just sneak into the dam upsteam, dump several megatons of distressed squid into it, then break the dam. Boom, you suddenly have enough water-proof stealth for a whole city!

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1498 on: May 14, 2017, 02:01:07 am »
I am confident that all choices will have similar moral quandries. And we CAN just refuse a request...
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Vote (1) for the Urist scale!
Quote from: Firnagzen on July 04, 2009, 01:01:52 am
I shall be eternally happy. I shall be able to construct elf hunting giant mecha. Which can pour magma.
Quote from: Muz on January 05, 2010, 10:01:54 am
Urist has been forced to use a friend as fertilizer lately.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1499 on: May 14, 2017, 02:05:08 am »
Guys, since we can't decide between Axis or Allies it's clear that we have to come to a compromise.

Vote Comintern.
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