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Which team did you play in the last game?

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Author Topic: Intercontinental Arms Race: Finale  (Read 591541 times)

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1455 on: May 13, 2017, 10:09:50 pm »

Everyone is worried about the US in the pacific, but why not the Japanese? They were pretty damn hostile and ruthless and rapey and I don't want to be on their bad side.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1456 on: May 13, 2017, 10:11:41 pm »

The bigger concern is we have not invented anything really worthy of their time at this point.  All we made are carriers, radar and a torpedo.

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1457 on: May 13, 2017, 10:12:00 pm »

Because the Japanese, while they excel at conquering the unprepared and undefended, don't have the capabilities required to invade us. Because the US could develop that capability by war's end (In fact they have it before the war's end), and we don't want to face that.

Also, nukes. We're a big problem country/area. The US could, in our alternate reality, decide not to nuke Japan, and instead burn some nukes on us, cause, why not?
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1458 on: May 13, 2017, 10:34:04 pm »

Ah, all sides are gonna be rapey. Don't think the allies didn't do some of it (Though in their case, those actions weren't sanctioned so...)

And the russians are going to be worse about it all. As for the nukes, knowing both cannala and forenia we'd reverse engineer the nukes and go to town on the US. As Sensei said, how the outside war goes will not affect us.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1459 on: May 13, 2017, 10:36:13 pm »

Because the Japanese, while they excel at conquering the unprepared and undefended, don't have the capabilities required to invade us. Because the US could develop that capability by war's end (In fact they have it before the war's end), and we don't want to face that.

They may not be able to -conquer- forenia, but they certainly have the capability to take one or two isolated islands.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1460 on: May 13, 2017, 10:39:31 pm »

Probably the most worrying thing that would happen is the Uniited states preventing our merchants from using The Panama Canal...

I also suspect that our carriers are pretty attractive. They are staggeringly cheap. They are pretty useless by themselves, but as a means of upping your carrier fleet a little, and shipping around planes that can then move onto a carrier that can actually field them effectively, it is pretty good. Also, please nobody try to put radar on oour current carriers, they are barely big enough to launch planes, they don't have room. If we want a comprehensive carrier then we will need a new carrier, something bigger...
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1461 on: May 13, 2017, 10:40:22 pm »

If you had planes with decent loiter time, they would be great ASW platforms.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1462 on: May 13, 2017, 10:41:50 pm »

That'll only happen in '42 RAM, before then we've got free reign of it, and after that we switch to supporting Japan.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1463 on: May 13, 2017, 10:46:23 pm »

Point of order: Sensei has stated, time and time again, that joining the Axis does not mean losing when 1945 rolls around. However it works out, the factions will not be unbalanced to that degree.

And might I point out that Japan is the go-to country when it comes to strategies for defeating vastly superior navies?
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1464 on: May 13, 2017, 10:48:14 pm »

And if we're part of the Axis if they lose we might get a bumper crop of design credits and the like due to all the scientists seeking refuge in our land.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1465 on: May 13, 2017, 10:56:43 pm »

It isn't Japan or Italy or Romania that all the ex-Nazi scientists went to after WW2, it was the US, who was all too happy to take them.

Besides, that's a hell of an assumption to make when Sensei has even stated in the OP that he might not even use design credits anymore and has stuck to that.
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1466 on: May 13, 2017, 10:58:08 pm »

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STRATEGY
9 Attack the plains: Powder Miner, Taricus, Piratejoe, NUKE9.13,Stabby, Andrea, Hibou, Lightforger, Madman198237
9 Attack the jungle: Powder Miner, Taricus, Piratejoe, NUKE9.13,Stabby, Andrea, Hibou, Lightforger, Madman198237
7 Don't deploy the ERA: Powder Miner, Taricus, Andrea, Piratejoe, Hibou, Lightforger, Madman198237

DIPLOMACY
8 Join the Allies: Powder Miner, Stabby, Hibou, Lightforger, Chiefwaffles, Madman198237, Piratejoe, S34N1C
7 Join the Axis: Taricus, NUKE9.13, RAM, evictedSaint, Andrea, NAV, strongpoint
1 Join Comintern: Mulisa, VoidSlayer
4 -Send them the Stinger: Powder Miner, Stabby, Hibou, Mulisa, voidslayer
1 -Send them the RDN-39-2 "DEADLIER RAY": Lightforger
3 -Send the Axis the RPG28A: Taricus, Andrea, strongpoint
0 -Send the Reckless Effect:
3 -Send the Tiger Armour: Piratejoe, evictedSaint, NAV
1 -Send them the Firecracker (+ all of its variants)
Somehow some players seems to forget that we pissed Allies by annexing the British island. Also, we pissed Americans in the first game trying to reverse engenieer their sub. Also we did help Germany with the assault rifle. Also, research credit is the best reward. But who needs consider anything if one can have a small chance to join the victorious size by offering them a shitty fighter!

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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1467 on: May 13, 2017, 10:58:23 pm »

Well, they didn't really get a choice in that particular case :P
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1468 on: May 13, 2017, 11:08:09 pm »

People keep claiming that America dislikes us, but there's no evidence for this, because it's a claim people make to justify joining the axis -- there was absolutely zip in terms of mention of it in the competition for the design credit, and it was just a governmental-governmental matter anyway... the Kingdom of Moskurg and Republic of Arstotzka don't exist anymore. The US doesn't dislike us at all, and I'd argue that we're on better terms with them than the Cannalans are, as was demonstrated last year!
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Re: Intercontinental Arms Race: Autumn 1939 (Strategy Phase)
« Reply #1469 on: May 13, 2017, 11:13:45 pm »

I am so salty now. This turn.... I think we nearly lost the war with that awful turn designing advanced long term techs instead of fielding something actually useful. I expect us to be pushed back on both fronts they choose to push and gain nothing on the third.
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