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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #35760 on: March 22, 2020, 05:42:40 pm »

And yet you will probably still find boomers desperately petitioning for a bus ride to Omaha so they can take advantage of the s i c k d e a l s

This time the deals really are sick.
as are the employees, unfortunately, if they aren’t allowed to go to quarantine
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« Reply #35761 on: March 22, 2020, 06:17:19 pm »

Premarket trading hit limit down (-5%) a full three minutes after opening, with the Dow managing to get .01% below the limit down. Prepare thyselves for the morn, bloodred and glorious.
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« Reply #35762 on: March 22, 2020, 06:53:08 pm »

Relatedly, the cloture vote on relief package #2 (text of which is floating around in some quarters) failed. Both sides pretty angry about things right now. Negotiations continue, but unclear where things are going. But no aid package for a while yet, unless thing magically cohere.

For those asking about the effects of quarantining on votes, the funny part is that for cloture votes - the normally-60 vote threshold that is most important - the requirement is "three-fifths of the Senators duly chosen and sworn." So if a Senator dies the threshold decreases accordingly, but if one falls ill it doesn't. So the 5 Rs right now who are sick/quarantining are making it more difficult for McConnell to reach an agreement.

Also, despite being diagnosed this morning Sen. Paul reportedly still used the Senate gym. And the pool.
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« Reply #35763 on: March 22, 2020, 07:29:32 pm »

Of course he did.

It's Rand Paul we are talking about here.
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« Reply #35764 on: March 22, 2020, 07:49:18 pm »

He'll be buried as a traitor. Or a hero. Possibly both.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #35765 on: March 22, 2020, 07:51:03 pm »

As a Libertarian he is (ironically) bound to fully exploit common resources at every opportunity, to trigger the socialists.
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« Reply #35766 on: March 22, 2020, 08:06:47 pm »

@Iduno Refusing to vote for democrats because Obama made some but not all things better is dumb. I *know* he was really flawed, and endorsed some evil shit (indigenous land rights, etc) but you can primary a Democrat and push things around. Republicans straight-up arent responsive to public opinion at this point and they need to get crushed out of office for it. Abandoning the democratic party pushes it right a lot more than voting for things you actually want because you expect not to get them.
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« Reply #35767 on: March 22, 2020, 08:42:21 pm »

I *know* he was really flawed, and endorsed some evil shit (indigenous land rights, etc)

Wait, what's this about? Edit: if you're talking about UNDRIP or the like I suppose I'll have to respectfully disagree on the descriptor you used.

Oh, and Sen. Paul's office has countered that he merely went to the pool and whatnot while awaiting his results. So totally different, of course...
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« Reply #35768 on: March 22, 2020, 11:10:39 pm »

Senator Paul is just being consistent with his long-term life philosophy that externalities are by definition someone else's problem, and contributing to his goal of enacting a true liberatarian utopia by incapacitating the US government.
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« Reply #35769 on: March 23, 2020, 06:50:38 am »

@Iduno Refusing to vote for democrats because Obama made some but not all things better is dumb. I *know* he was really flawed, and endorsed some evil shit (indigenous land rights, etc) but you can primary a Democrat and push things around. Republicans straight-up arent responsive to public opinion at this point and they need to get crushed out of office for it. Abandoning the democratic party pushes it right a lot more than voting for things you actually want because you expect not to get them.

Nah, you're right. I should vote for rapists, racists, and people who want to kill me and anyone like me. If I don't reward them for being terrible, how will they get better?

It's been shown that voting for the lesser of two evils only determines the baseline amount of evil they'll aim for next time, which is why we keep getting worse candidates. They even tried to run a person who could best be described as "what if we found someone who was like Donald Trump, except worse in literally every way." Democrats are also straight-up aren't responsive to public opinion at this point, and they need to be crushed out of office for it.
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« Reply #35770 on: March 23, 2020, 07:19:46 am »

Holy crap, the concept of the year of jubilee has entered the mainstream media: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/21/debt-jubilee-is-only-way-avoid-depression/
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« Reply #35771 on: March 23, 2020, 07:23:41 am »

Holy crap, the concept of the year of jubilee has entered the mainstream media: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/21/debt-jubilee-is-only-way-avoid-depression/

Does Elon Musk have that much debt, or is he otherwise going to benefit from that?
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« Reply #35772 on: March 23, 2020, 07:23:51 am »

Holy crap, the concept of the year of jubilee has entered the mainstream media: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/21/debt-jubilee-is-only-way-avoid-depression/
I'm out of WaPo articles, how do they propose a modern version?
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« Reply #35773 on: March 23, 2020, 07:26:07 am »

Because SCREW paywalls.

Spoiler: Whole damn article (click to show/hide)
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« Reply #35774 on: March 23, 2020, 07:28:10 am »

and they said Jubilee was a worthless mutant
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