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[sluissa]

Some people have families, property and wealth. A LOT of people have none of those excepting maybe some IKEA style furniture they come home to and rest on alone (or more likely with a roommate) in their dwelling they rent from someone else while trying to pay off the debt they've incurred.

[smjjames]

Libel and slander that manages to raise eyebrows even today for how savage it was, was also a feature of that era.

Yeah, there’s some pretty legendary verbal warfare out of that. As verbal warfare as Trump is, some of the stuff from that era would make him look pretty tame.

Some people have families, property and wealth. A LOT of people have none of those excepting maybe some IKEA style furniture they come home to and rest on alone (or more likely with a roommate) in their dwelling they rent from someone else while trying to pay off the debt they've incurred.

How many of those would be ‘willing to die for a cause’ (aside from America itself, and possibly guns, but that is likely overblown somewhat) though? As mentioned earlier, America lacks that kind of critical mass. Yes, comparisons are made of the current politics to the Civil War era and possibly the Civil Rights era, but I wouldn’t be worried about that until both sides utterly stop talking to each other.

[MrRoboto75]

To note, circa pre-Civil War politics, senators were bringing guns with them to the capital.

I for one welcome the ability for a senator to beat another senator with a cane.

[Folly]

How many of those would be ‘willing to die for a cause’ (aside from America itself, and possibly guns, but that is likely overblown somewhat) though? As mentioned earlier, America lacks that kind of critical mass. Yes, comparisons are made of the current politics to the Civil War era and possibly the Civil Rights era, but I wouldn’t be worried about that until both sides utterly stop talking to each other.

History is full of wars. They happen without regard for the bystanders who are incapable of comprehending the mindsets of those involved.

[Reelya]

Came across this because my co-worker, who is an extreme "normie" mentioned he liked Alex Jones the other day, so I was looking around not sure if I should tell him about this, it might break his mind.

https://www.newsweek.com/alex-jones-infowars-trans-porn-marissa-minx-1093041

Alex Jones leaves porn on phone in background of video. It ain't normal porn. I'm sure he was just doing research.

One of the videos that contributed to his ban from YouTube was a tirade against drag queens in which he said they would be going to hell because they are Satanists. He also suggested they are pedophiles.

"Soon the icy cold of hell will embrace you forever," Jones said in the video. "Soon you will pass through and on never to return to this dimension. Never to ascend, but down, down, down, down. Down, down, down into that black hole you're going. Chained."

Jones also frequently uses the transphobic slur "tranny" in his broadcasts and has called homosexuality "a very destructive lifestyle."

You can guess exactly what type of porn it was.

EDIT: however it gets even classier, because recently ...
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/448960-sandy-hook-lawyers-say-fbi-notified-after-receiving-child-porn (from alex jones)

[wierd]

People often complain the most angrily, about the things they hate about themselves.


Maybe we just need to get Good Old Alex down to Las Vegas, and get him to do a female celebrity impersonation show.   I bet he could pull off a Rosie O'Donnell if he tried hard enough.

(you know... For some reason, this song comes to mind, and demands a parody video... )

[thompson]

Poetic justice strikes again! Any word on the fallout yet? I'd look myself, but I'd rather google not think I'm interested in Alex Jones and trans-porn.

EDIT: Ok, I lie. I'm lazy, and have to sort out visa stuff today.

EDIT2: This visa-waiver ESTA pseudo-visa is bullshit. You Americans should just honour your damn treaty obligations and provide real, reciprocal visa-free travel.

[Trekkin]

This is a week old at this point. Nothing really happened. Everyone ran the exact same stupidly smug "poetic justice"/"irony" article, someone interviewed the performer about it (which ran exactly as you'd expect), and Jones is still doing his thing, because people who can simultaneously consider two pieces of information and notice the inconsistencies between them already don't listen to Infowars.

[thompson]

This is a week old at this point. Nothing really happened. Everyone ran the exact same stupidly smug "poetic justice"/"irony" article, someone interviewed the performer about it (which ran exactly as you'd expect), and Jones is still doing his thing, because people who can simultaneously consider two pieces of information and notice the inconsistencies between them already don't listen to Infowars.

I suppose that's to be expected. Well, I found it amusing, so there's that.

[scriver]

A week old... didn't this happen before? Like several  months ago at least? Did it happen again?

[Kagus]

A week old... didn't this happen before? Like several  months ago at least? Did it happen again?

The second coming

[Teneb]

People often complain the most angrily, about the things they hate about themselves.


Maybe we just need to get Good Old Alex down to Las Vegas, and get him to do a female celebrity impersonation show.   I bet he could pull off a Rosie O'Donnell if he tried hard enough.

(you know... For some reason, this song comes to mind, and demands a parody video... )

Yeah, no. The whole "homophobes are closeted gays", which you can swap for trans or religions or whatever, is a pretty bad take because instead of placing the blame on the oppressors it places the blame on the victim by implying that, for instance, a true hetero would never be homophobic.

[Bumber]

EDIT: however it gets even classier, because recently ...
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/448960-sandy-hook-lawyers-say-fbi-notified-after-receiving-child-porn (from alex jones)

The article says his defense lawyer claims the child porn was in an unopened attachment in an email sent to him. Article doesn't mention any counter-claim to this, so it's possible someone sent him shock images.

[wierd]

People often complain the most angrily, about the things they hate about themselves.


Maybe we just need to get Good Old Alex down to Las Vegas, and get him to do a female celebrity impersonation show.   I bet he could pull off a Rosie O'Donnell if he tried hard enough.

(you know... For some reason, this song comes to mind, and demands a parody video... )

Yeah, no. The whole "homophobes are closeted gays", which you can swap for trans or religions or whatever, is a pretty bad take because instead of placing the blame on the oppressors it places the blame on the victim by implying that, for instance, a true hetero would never be homophobic.

I did not mean to imply a No True Scottsman scenario--  Note, I said "Often", not "Always."

(And this insistence that there needs to be a distinction between an oppressor, and the oppressed, is purely artificial and political in nature. In situations like this, you end up with people who are themselves oppressed by their ambient cultural sphere of influence, because they *ARE* the thing that the group reviles-- so they have to revile that thing MORE to avoid drawing attention. See also, the recent "Oh yeah, by the way-- I'm gay" from the founder of an infamous "Conversion therapy" operation. The artificial "need" to delineate between oppressor and oppressed, derives from a limited world view. The real world is substantially more grey than that.)

In this particular case, Good Old Alex was clearly looking at transvestite pornography.  Not gonna kinkshame, but clearly HE is doing that exact thing.  If he is kinkshaming transvestite porn, why is he looking at it?  Shit-- Porn comes in so many varieties, he has a literally endless (thanks rule 34...) selection of choices to pick from. Why fixate on transvestite porn?  Hmm??

[smjjames]

This sounds more like a wtf thread discussion than a politics thread discussion...