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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #23055 on: August 29, 2018, 06:17:37 pm »

If we lose the vote, then antifa will violently change the law. Because we'll be electing antifa, and they change laws BY SHOOTING PEOPLE.

Or, if we're not electing antifa, then the antifa will simply notice that the left is rising, and take advantage of their newfound legislative power TO SHOOT PEOPLE. Because you shoot people when you're winning, not when you're losing.

Even if antifa are really this great boogeyman, this doesn't make any sense.
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« Reply #23056 on: August 29, 2018, 06:27:18 pm »

And also calling democrats leftists.

This is probably the nastiest insult they've really suffered, without hyperbole.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #23057 on: August 29, 2018, 06:30:42 pm »

...if they gain control of THE VILLAINOUS GOVERNMENT for more than A WEEK then AMERICA WILL BURN TO THE GROUND!"

What happens if they gain control for just a week or less?
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« Reply #23058 on: August 29, 2018, 06:30:49 pm »

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The pedant in me wants to assert that "violence" is not a 100% parity with "Threat or use of physical force, or mortal peril."

What it REALLY is 100% parity with, is "Sudden, and especially unexpected or unwelcome change in status"

Eg, "The violence of the storm" does not mean that the storm blew into town carrying uzis, demanding all your money. It means that the storm changed from being a minor inconvenience to something significantly dangerous in a very short, sudden, and undesirable way.

In this context, the use of the word "violent" by the small handed idiot is actually correct.

But then, the "Really, what is he thinking? Most people are not literary pedants!" part of me kicks in, and wonders what the fuck he is thinking using that particular word here.
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« Reply #23059 on: August 29, 2018, 06:40:08 pm »

True, but then he goes and inserts antifa and says those are violent people, which contributes to the whole tone of it. Remove the antifa bit and you change the overall context and tone.

Could he have articulated it better or used a fancier word? Sure.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #23060 on: August 29, 2018, 06:42:50 pm »

Because that’s The Donald’s MO: articulate and fancy.
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« Reply #23061 on: August 29, 2018, 07:07:05 pm »

Warning a bunch of high-ranking zealots about the VIOLENT left seems like a pretty clear message to me.  Fortunately, 9/10 of the millions they influence understand that "Christian soldier" is, like, a metaphor?  Nowadays?  It just means to evangelize more.  Maybe lobby for more laws which are *only* supported by the Bible...  Nothing bad.  9/10 of them definitely understand that.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #23062 on: August 29, 2018, 07:13:03 pm »

@Wierd

I agree. He chose a word that is correct in context but also incites a strong defensive response. If someone misinterprets it as literal violence it works in his favor for the purpose of rallying support against his enemies, and also he can pretend it was completely by accident.

It's both clumsily obvious and clever, like most of what he plans beforehand.

Also, as a Christian, yes, that is a clear metaphor. It has, however, certainly been twisted into literal meaning in the past. I'll take this opportunity to reiterate my own stance that Christianity was never meant to supplant secular government, and that the people who want to use it for that purpose are misguided at best and outright evil at worst.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #23063 on: August 30, 2018, 01:11:37 am »

Wait, grumpy clouds packing submachineguns aren't a thing in your area? Fuck, I knew there was something strange about Memphis!
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« Reply #23064 on: August 30, 2018, 03:40:38 am »

Wait, grumpy clouds packing submachineguns aren't a thing in your area? Fuck, I knew there was something strange about Memphis!
Sorry to rain on the parade, but dark clouds hailing from foreign countries and drifting into the US are a real threat to the American way of life. The police are powerless to stop them thanks to the politicians in Washington blowing hot air, and instead of addressing the real issues they're blowing everything out of proportion and are busy outlawing words like "nimbus" so we can't even call the thunderheads for what they are.

It's a perfect storm. I'm not weatherist, I bless the rains down in Africa just like anybody, but that don't mean they get to come here and put us under pressure.

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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #23065 on: August 30, 2018, 03:46:12 am »

I don't think Trump intends there to be any meaning behind most of the things he says, other than to manipulate his base. The large majority of his most public actions seem calculated to increase his support among the groups that already support him, tinged with his own egoism and occasional mistakes.

This technique is clearly a loss-prevention strategy, and it's working by that account. His approval has remained astonishingly steady considering the number of crimes, controversies, and gaffes he's weathered, and that's because he's kept pleasing his base with his rhetoric. he doesn't  have any alternative; pivoting would only destroy support among his core and gain him next to nothing from his opponents.

A different president could of course open up to compromise and actually see net gains, but Trump burned every bridge he could in order to maximize his strategy.

Of course, he can't prevent all losses, and those losses aren't coming back to the fold.
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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #23066 on: August 30, 2018, 05:21:15 am »

Wait, grumpy clouds packing submachineguns aren't a thing in your area? Fuck, I knew there was something strange about Memphis!
Sorry to rain on the parade, but dark clouds hailing from foreign countries and drifting into the US are a real threat to the American way of life. The police are powerless to stop them thanks to the politicians in Washington blowing hot air, and instead of addressing the real issues they're blowing everything out of proportion and are busy outlawing words like "nimbus" so we can't even call the thunderheads for what they are.

It's a perfect storm. I'm not weatherist, I bless the rains down in Africa just like anybody, but that don't mean they get to come here and put us under pressure.

You fucking beaut you

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Re: AmeriPol thread
« Reply #23067 on: August 30, 2018, 02:55:23 pm »

In hilarious self ownership news, The American Conservative tried to argue that "if Trump and Carlson are racists what are people way more racist than them called?" only to get thousands of replies saying various versions of "also racists, you fucking mooks" and other such quips.
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« Reply #23068 on: August 30, 2018, 03:10:17 pm »

Welp, now people are being denied passports because... they were born by the border and are hispanic.

The hispanic part isn't explicitly stated, but I think we can agree that it's a big reason why this is happening.
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« Reply #23069 on: August 30, 2018, 03:23:15 pm »

There's something highly farcical about border patrol agents suddenly having their birth certificates questioned.
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