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[Hanslanda]

Has anyone ever used the 'we're filming porn' defense in a prostitution bust?

[Kagus]

A whore is a woman who is not easily satisfied by a single partner, who actively seeks out sexual gratification from strangers. Compare: Male; Rake.

A prostitute is a woman who sells sexual encounters to random men in exchange for money.

A porn star has sex on camera with a screened pool of men who are known to be free of venereal diseases, who likewise are paid to have sex on camera.

Any questions?

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/whore

Noun:
1. (mildly vulgar or dated) A prostitute.

Synonyms:
Prostitute

Verb:
1. (intransitive, vulgar) To prostitute oneself.
2. (intransitive, vulgar) To engage the services of a prostitute.
3. (transitive, vulgar) To pimp; to pander.


Hence "Other than whore being used as a synonym for slut, which isn't strictly accurate from a definition point of view." (although it does have that meaning as well, it is not the primary definition).

Has anyone ever used the 'we're filming porn' defense in a prostitution bust?

Only in comic strips. I think you need a license or something in order to use the porn defense, but I wouldn't know (honest).

[wierd]

Hmm..  I usually differentiate between whore and prostitute, with whore being more synonymous with slut.

A prostitute normally is not in it for the thrill of it. They usually are either trapped by inescapable debts (or pimps), or have some other adverse circumstance that drives them to it. (Not always, but this happens painfully often.)  I don't look down on prostitutes.

Porn star is a more grey area, but as I understand it, they come to view their sessions with the same emotionless detachment that most people have for the drudgery of their normal day jobs. They are actors. They only act like they are totally in the orgasmosphere all the time.

The whore/slut on the other hand, totally does what she does for the pleasure, and seeks strangers to avoid attachments and complications.

[scriver]

This whole thing reminds of a thing that happened here in Sweden ten or so years ago when a high up in the police got revealed as being involved in a ton of sex crime. The man was known for his work against gender discrimination and generally for gender equality within the police force to the point that he had been given the nickname "Kapten Klänning", "Captain Dress", by other police.

He was eventually found guilty of (loosely translated from Swedish because I do not know the correct legal terms I'm english) rape, severe rape, assault (or battery?), procuring/pimping, purchase of sexual favours and attempted purchase of sexual favours. He would likely have been found guilty of raping a minor as well if not the investigation team assigned to his case had law the choice to intervene when he met up with a 14-year-old and arrest him before anything happened.

A whore is a woman who is not easily satisfied by a single partner, who actively seeks out sexual gratification from strangers. Compare: Male; Rake.

Whore is definitely synonymous with prostitute to me, not with slut.

[Kagus]

Yeah, that's technically what the word means (or meant), but common usage has seen it get used more commonly in the sense of "a lot of low standards".

In Norwegian, we've got a special slang term for slut: "Sklie". Lit. meaning: "Slide". Presumably because everyone rides the slide on the playground, I'unno...

There's also "Skløtte" which is also used to refer to women in general if you're a misogynist. I don't believe the word has any real meaning, but the pronunciation sorta sounds like some vulgar noises one might encounter in, ah, horizontal situations.


It's a strange language.

[scriver]

I'm Swedish, "slida" (meaning "slide") is a word for vagina. That's maybe the connection?

[Reelya]

In Norwegian, we've got a special slang term for slut: "Sklie". Lit. meaning: "Slide". Presumably because everyone rides the slide on the playground, I'unno...

That might be similar to the expression "town bike*" then, but the etymology is almost certainly different.

* as in, everyone rides the "town bike".

[Frumple]

I'd assume it was reference to looseness, without more context. Seems the sort of direction that kind of vulgarity would go.

[Max™]

Ajit Pai is a whore willing to happily gargle large telecom balls for cash.

Trump is an attention whore, the set of actions or statements he won't make for attention is finite with a low upper bound.

Usually I hear the term prostitute/-ion used in situations where it is done just for payment, while being a whore/-ing yourself out tends to carry a degrading sort of connotation, often hinting at said degredations being enjoyed: Pai loves feeling big hairy telecom nuts slapping against his face because he's a dirty whore.

[Shazbot]

I used to only wonder if I was speaking a different language from other people.

So do we agree that a woman taking money from an adult film company to have sex on camera has more integrity (or perhaps is reducing their integrity less) than a woman taking money from a (sake of argument) misogynist to sabotage a defender of women's rights with false sexual abuse allegations?

And therefore accusing these women of colluding with Trump to destroy Schneidermann is a really low thing to accuse them of, akin to saying the Cosby accusers were just trying to extort him for a settlement.

Or are we now defending an alleged sexual abuser because he has a D next to his name. Or justifying it because other sexual abusers have had R's next to their name.

Or will we now launch into a discussion of how integrity is entirely relative, morality is entirely non-existent, and that there is no reason to concern ourselves with social mores of sexual conduct since we're all just dirt on a rock spiraling toward entropy.

In which case what does it matter if Trump did or did not have Russian prostitutes urinate on a mattress or have an affair with Stormy Daniels. I mean, its not like he non-con beat four women who are themselves just dirt on a rock like he is. Or that it matters if you beat people since there's no morality.

Maybe we should move on. You know the Russians were building nuclear power plants in Iran for the money Iran got in the nuclear deal that Trump just cancelled? So now the Russia-installed Trump just shut off the flow of billions of American taxpayer dollars to Russia through Russia's client state Iran. Putin must be rubbing his hands together muttering, "All according to plan" as his apparent puppet pretends to go rogue all for some later payoff. Yes. Yeeesss...

[Shazbot]

Ah, see, I was afraid he was trying to claim that Daniels' account of events is less credible than Schneidermann's accusers' because he disapproves of her vocation, as though morality (or sanctimony) somehow enters into questions of fact. It is a relief that nothing so ludicrously dangerous was implied.

Credibility wasn't my concern but how serious of an accusation was being made against four domestic abuse victims to say they were really paid-off agents of a misogynist politician to destroy a feminist defender of women's rights.

[nenjin]

I used to only wonder if I was speaking a different language from other people.

So do we agree that a woman taking money from an adult film company to have sex on camera has more integrity (or perhaps is reducing their integrity less) than a woman taking money from a (sake of argument) misogynist to sabotage a defender of women's rights with false sexual abuse allegations?

And therefore accusing these women of colluding with Trump to destroy Schneidermann is a really low thing to accuse them of, akin to saying the Cosby accusers were just trying to extort him for a settlement.

Or are we now defending an alleged sexual abuser because he has a D next to his name. Or justifying it because other sexual abusers have had R's next to their name.

Or will we now launch into a discussion of how integrity is entirely relative, morality is entirely non-existent, and that there is no reason to concern ourselves with social mores of sexual conduct since we're all just dirt on a rock spiraling toward entropy.

In which case what does it matter if Trump did or did not have Russian prostitutes urinate on a mattress or have an affair with Stormy Daniels. I mean, its not like he non-con beat four women who are themselves just dirt on a rock like he is. Or that it matters if you beat people since there's no morality.

Maybe we should move on. You know the Russians were building nuclear power plants in Iran for the money Iran got in the nuclear deal that Trump just cancelled? So now the Russia-installed Trump just shut off the flow of billions of American taxpayer dollars to Russia through Russia's client state Iran. Putin must be rubbing his hands together muttering, "All according to plan" as his apparent puppet pretends to go rogue all for some later payoff. Yes. Yeeesss...

How about “they’re both scum and should be judged as such rather than spending time making moral equivalency arguments so everyone gets off the hook.”

[Shazbot]

So if they aren't morally equivalent and should be judged, is it worse to beat four women and threaten them with powers stemming from an abuse of your entrusted public office as attorney general or pay a woman through the proxy of your lawyer not to disclose what she did or did not do, consentingly by her own admission, ten years ago.

There is a reason Stormy has got no legs outside of those already against Trump. His voters knew he was a billionaire playboy. If he didn't have an affair with Stormy, the billionaire playboy association would have dragged him in front of a tribunal to revoke his country club membership. His billionaire playboy status was priced in to the package people voted for, and they voted for him anyway over Clinton. Likewise the collusion accusations aren't believed by those who aren't actively seeking reasons to impeach him. He's bombed one Russian client state, shut off funding to another Russian client state that was in turn paying it to Russia, authorized military aid to Ukraine, broke Gazprom's stranglehold on Eastern European energy markets with American exports, imposed fresh financial sanctions and expelled 60 operatives and closed two consulates. He isn't Putin's puppet to anyone who doesn't wear red-scare tinted glasses.

[Trekkin]

So if they aren't morally equivalent and should be judged, is it worse to beat four women and threaten them with powers stemming from an abuse of your entrusted public office as attorney general or pay a woman through the proxy of your lawyer not to disclose what she did or did not do, consentingly by her own admission, ten years ago.

It doesn't matter in the slightest which one is worse. What matters is what can be proved to have actually happened in each case, and that each receives a fair trial on that basis. Just as no one is above the law, no one's crimes matter more than upholding the rule of law.

[Shazbot]

Then what is illegal about Stormy?