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[Playergamer]

oh hey you were talking about the charlottesville kid, the guy who saluted the statue.

Video.

He literally did nothing wrong, showed up and saluted the statue, was very respectful, didn't engage with anyone. When police asked him to leave, he did. A gaggle of people showed up around him and started screaming because expecting fucking thought from these people is too much of course.

Every day I semi-seriously ask myself if the good guys won WW2, and some day these morons are going to convince me that the answer is "no."

In case you haven't noticed, I'm a bit angry.

EDIT: America today is so fucking psychotic that someone drove into a vigil honoring someone shot after fucking STABBING a cop. Why did they drive into the crowd? Why was the vigil there in the first place, when it was obviously justified? Who the fuck cares, right?

I'm tired of this slow-burn shit, can we just have the civil war and get it over with.

[Egan_BW]

I don't care whether you think the good guys won WWII, but I really hope that you'll always continue to think that some of the bad guys lost.

[sluissa]

After seeing it, I have the opinion the dude was doing it to intentionally provoke a response... and he got one. A vulgar and disgusting one worse than anything he did on his own. Still, that's what he probably wanted, given the smirk you see several times. I don't really have any respect for him. If anything more that he's willing to go that far to be a troll about the whole thing than anything else. But the people "protesting him" were just inhuman about the whole thing. I have absolutely no respect there at all.

Whatever it is they want I want to deny them of that, simply because of how they're acting, even if it means keeping up statues that I don't even agree with. It's illogical, I know, but that's the feeling I come away from it with. Giving any sort of "win" to them under these circumstances would only reinforce that behavior which I can't condone.

[smjjames]

After seeing it, I have the opinion the dude was doing it to intentionally provoke a response... and he got one. A vulgar and disgusting one worse than anything he did on his own. Still, that's what he probably wanted, given the smirk you see several times. I don't really have any respect for him. If anything more that he's willing to go that far to be a troll about the whole thing than anything else. But the people "protesting him" were just inhuman about the whole thing. I have absolutely no respect there at all.

Whatever it is they want I want to deny them of that, simply because of how they're acting, even if it means keeping up statues that I don't even agree with. It's illogical, I know, but that's the feeling I come away from it with. Giving any sort of "win" to them under these circumstances would only reinforce that behavior which I can't condone.

So, the guy was being an IRL troll?

I'm tired of this slow-burn shit, can we just have the civil war and get it over with.

Over what exactly? Memes? I hear ya though, this year has just been crazy. NK even came off as saying "Act normal!" in their rebuke to Trump tweeting, or maybe the rally, though it was their usual rhetoric.

Anyhoo, if anybody missed it last night, Trump is threatening a government shutdown over the wall, it's probably just rhetoric, but I think he might be attempting to use the debt ceiling deadline as leverage. Although Paul Ryan has said that they'll probably do a continuing resolution because they don't have enough worktime in their schedule available to work on the budget appropriation next month. So, if Trump really is attempting to use that tactic, it might not work.

I just hope that they have enough time to work on increasing the debt ceiling

[Trekkin]

I'm tired of this slow-burn shit, can we just have the civil war and get it over with.

We already did. It ran from 1861 to 1865. Did you miss it?

[EnigmaticHat]

I'm tired of this slow-burn shit, can we just have the civil war and get it over with.

We did.  Now we just need the losers to give up the ghost.

If Lincoln hadn't been assassinated this wouldn't be a problem.  Every city official who tried to glamorize the confederacy, would get a lovingly written and signed letter saying "you lost shitlords, get over it ~Abe."  Even after his presumably natural death.

Edit:  What always makes me lol about the civil war rhetoric is the implication white nationalists would have a side.  Like the alt righters wanking off to the idea of a race war.  News flash: yeah all people of color would support antifa because they don't want to die.  That doesn't mean most white people would fight alongside the likes of neonazis and the KKK.  You think the South would march to war when they know full well nothing is at stake for them?  Its not like dems would be the aggressors in this hypothetical civil war.  Back in yhe 1800s staying in the union would cost money because of abolition, now staying is a net economic benefit.  Like its one thing to be angry, angry doesn't make ordinary people pick up guns and join the revolution.  People do that because they thinj its an imperative, that the cost of letting whatever it is happen to them outweighs leaving shelter and comfort and safety behind.  You think the "forgotten man" on the street is more afraid of status quo than they are of death?

[MrRoboto75]

Anyhoo, if anybody missed it last night, Trump is threatening a government shutdown over the wall, it's probably just rhetoric, but I think he might be attempting to use the debt ceiling deadline as leverage. Although Paul Ryan has said that they'll probably do a continuing resolution because they don't have enough worktime in their schedule available to work on the budget appropriation next month. So, if Trump really is attempting to use that tactic, it might not work.

I just hope that they have enough time to work on increasing the debt ceiling

This is how the country ends
This is how the country ends
Not with a bang
But with a wall

[Playergamer]

I'm tired of this slow-burn shit, can we just have the civil war and get it over with.

We already did. It ran from 1861 to 1865. Did you miss it?

I'm tired of this slow-burn shit, can we just have the civil war and get it over with.

We did.  Now we just need the losers to give up the ghost.

If Lincoln hadn't been assassinated this wouldn't be a problem.  Every city official who tried to glamorize the confederacy, would get a lovingly written and signed letter saying "you lost shitlords, get over it ~Abe."  Even after his presumably natural death.

I'm willing to put my ebux on a second civil war within the next eight years, probably much sooner too. Good thing, too, once that's over we can finally be done with all the fucking morons on both sides.

I'm pretty sure all of this crap is the prelude, and both sides are so fucking infuriating.

[smjjames]

I'm tired of this slow-burn shit, can we just have the civil war and get it over with.

We already did. It ran from 1861 to 1865. Did you miss it?

I'm tired of this slow-burn shit, can we just have the civil war and get it over with.

We did.  Now we just need the losers to give up the ghost.

If Lincoln hadn't been assassinated this wouldn't be a problem.  Every city official who tried to glamorize the confederacy, would get a lovingly written and signed letter saying "you lost shitlords, get over it ~Abe."  Even after his presumably natural death.

I'm willing to put my ebux on a second civil war within the next eight years, probably much sooner too. Good thing, too, once that's over we can finally be done with all the fucking morons on both sides.

I'm pretty sure all of this crap is the prelude, and both sides are so fucking infuriating.

Again, over what, just from pure stress? I think it was worse than this during the 60's and a civil war didn't erupt then.

[Trekkin]

Again, over what, just from pure stress? I think it was worse than this during the 60's and a civil war didn't erupt then.

It's really hard to see how someone could distill unproductive resentment or delusions of grandeur* into a casus belli, isn't it? Just imagine getting the heads of all these little tiny violent extremist factions together, each with a thousand-page manifesto/hit list, and trying to get them to agree on what to do and where without the government finding out about it. There just aren't enough maniacs running in the same direction to make a war tenable. 

Riots, maybe, but not a war.

*Just to be clear, that doesn't cover everyone on both sides. I'm referring specifically to the ones willing to premeditate violence about it.

[Sheb]

After seeing it, I have the opinion the dude was doing it to intentionally provoke a response... and he got one. A vulgar and disgusting one worse than anything he did on his own. Still, that's what he probably wanted, given the smirk you see several times. I don't really have any respect for him. If anything more that he's willing to go that far to be a troll about the whole thing than anything else. But the people "protesting him" were just inhuman about the whole thing. I have absolutely no respect there at all.

He got yelled at. Is that really a "inhuman" thing to do? Imagine if someone had decided to really calmy and respectfully stand to attention with a ISIS flag two weeks after the boston bombing that he would have gotten away with just being shouted at?

[Sheb]

In some way, it's a testament to how peaceful our societies have become that some shouting is considered the beginning of a civil war.

[Trekkin]

In some way, it's a testament to how peaceful our societies have become that some shouting is considered the beginning of a civil war.

Well, that depends on how much wishful thinking you want to read into his posts. I've yet to see someone who doesn't want millions of people to die because they annoy him claim that war is imminent or inevitable.

[Dorsidwarf]

I'll put my money where my mouth is and offer an open bet to anyone in this thread who wants to take me up on this.

100 of my British pounds says the US will not implode into a civil war before the trump presidency is over.

[MrRoboto75]

ow, the edge