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[TheBiggerFish]

This was answered.  Yes.

[Mephansteras]

Mephansteras: let's say there are only Hivemind players and town players alive. There are more Hivemind players than town players, but one of the town players is a Paranoid War Veteran. Does the game continue?

To be more specific: If there is a scenario where town could win, based on available power roles, the game would continue. If there is not, it will end.

PWV alone, if the Hivemind faction has more votes than anyone, will still let the game end assuming that the Hivemind is aware of the War Vet and is no longer going out to convert. But something like a Vig or Assassin Bot that could seek out the Hivemind and kill them would keep the game going despite a numbers disadvantage.

It's a bit situational, but I generally don't keep inevitable games going.

[4maskwolf]

Mephansteras: let's say there are only Hivemind players and town players alive. There are more Hivemind players than town players, but one of the town players is a Paranoid War Veteran. Does the game continue?

To be more specific: If there is a scenario where town could win, based on available power roles, the game would continue. If there is not, it will end.

PWV alone, if the Hivemind faction has more votes than anyone, will still let the game end assuming that the Hivemind is aware of the War Vet and is no longer going out to convert. But something like a Vig or Assassin Bot that could seek out the Hivemind and kill them would keep the game going despite a numbers disadvantage.

It's a bit situational, but I generally don't keep inevitable games going.

But if they intended to continue converting would the game end?

And would you shorten the game and assume all were converted if we set up a plan to do so and no roles are unknown?

[webadict]

Mephansteras: let's say there are only Hivemind players and town players alive. There are more Hivemind players than town players, but one of the town players is a Paranoid War Veteran. Does the game continue?

To be more specific: If there is a scenario where town could win, based on available power roles, the game would continue. If there is not, it will end.

PWV alone, if the Hivemind faction has more votes than anyone, will still let the game end assuming that the Hivemind is aware of the War Vet and is no longer going out to convert. But something like a Vig or Assassin Bot that could seek out the Hivemind and kill them would keep the game going despite a numbers disadvantage.

It's a bit situational, but I generally don't keep inevitable games going.

But if they intended to continue converting would the game end?

And would you shorten the game and assume all were converted if we set up a plan to do so and no roles are unknown?

It doesn't matter. We've either won or we've lost.

[4maskwolf]

It doesn't matter. We've either won or we've lost.

Oh I know, I'm just killing time until noon tomorrow.

[webadict]

Shorten?

[Mephansteras]

Mephansteras: let's say there are only Hivemind players and town players alive. There are more Hivemind players than town players, but one of the town players is a Paranoid War Veteran. Does the game continue?

To be more specific: If there is a scenario where town could win, based on available power roles, the game would continue. If there is not, it will end.

PWV alone, if the Hivemind faction has more votes than anyone, will still let the game end assuming that the Hivemind is aware of the War Vet and is no longer going out to convert. But something like a Vig or Assassin Bot that could seek out the Hivemind and kill them would keep the game going despite a numbers disadvantage.

It's a bit situational, but I generally don't keep inevitable games going.

But if they intended to continue converting would the game end?

And would you shorten the game and assume all were converted if we set up a plan to do so and no roles are unknown?

If they intended on continuing to convert, and were therefore a possible kill (which would remove the entire side), then I would let the game go on.

If they instructed me that they had no interest in continuing to convert and would simply vote the game out, I'd end it. (Assuming that there was no other mechanical way for the game to disrupt that plan).

[4maskwolf]

Shorten?

That makes a few, but with the extends it'll be a while unless some people suddenly change their minds.

[Tiruin]

Woo, 12 hours in and we've gained much information--in the least, I'm sure thanks to webadict's impromptu help

So, ignoring the bullshit thats going on.

TBF: Why did Ratty claim to have investigated you?  Did you two not discuss a fakeclaim beforehand?

I don't know what's up with him, but that was definitely not discussed.

Heeey, you're still pretending to be human! :I

You seem quite eager to end things all of a sudden, webadict.  Like a gambit didn't work out and you're giving up...

Yes, webadict is a rogue doppleganger and I shot myself trying to convert him :O
But we became best buddies after what happened last Monday. the incident.

Vote/timecount?

[TheBiggerFish]

I don't think that's how it works, Tiruin.

[Tiruin]

I don't think that's how it works, Tiruin.

Just saying...if you're town, you've got a lot stacked against you.
And that's a lot also unacknowledged. It'd help us (Town, even if you don't believe I'm town, picture the majority before you here) if...you also acknowledged what's going on :O
If there are RL things in your life that are affecting you, you can mention that (but as all games, it won't be treated as the prominent influence on you unless you request replacement)

Though a usual tactic is just staying silent.

But yeaaaah. That one reply to 4mask? It implies something REALLY SCUMMY GIVEN THE WORDING.
Outright me not saying 'wow that's a dopp giving up o_O'

"that was definitely not discussed" is something I don't see anyone not in league with the person they're talking about, say in that kind of wording. And leave it at that.

[Mephansteras]

The Whiteboard
TheBiggerFish: 4maskwolf, hector13, Persus13, TheDarkStar, Tiruin, webadict
TheDarkStar: Leafsnail
webadict: TheBiggerFish


Day ends ~Noon Pacific Today (About 4 hours). There are 5 votes to Shorten and 2 Votes to Extend. 5 Net votes needed to Shorten and 2 Net votes needed to Extend.

[webadict]

She's right. I did go along with it. It made the game more interesting.

[Mephansteras]

Webadict picks up the shotgun and looks over at TheBiggerFish. "All right, let's just end this. You're the last doppelganger scumbag, and I'm going end this threat once and for all."

The condemned looks over and snarls, his features melting away into the horrible toothed visage of his kin. He raises a hand, claws splayed, and then collapses to his knees.

"Just do it. My podmates are dead. I'm stuck in this body with memories or a horrible war I never wanted to be in. This world has nothing for me. I don't care anymore." He bows his head and folds his clawed hands in his lap.

"Cool." Webadict sends two barrels of shot into the Doppelganger War Vet's brain.

TheDarkStar pulls out a cell phone and calls up his superiors. "It's done. The doppelganger pod is dead and the town seems safe from further infiltration....Ok...I'll have the bodies prepped. Yes, Sir." He pulls out a badge showing his status as an Official Agent Operative and starts working on getting the town ready for the clean-up crew to arrive.

The menace is gone, but how many of you will be able to sleep soundly in the nights to come?




Ok, that's game! Sorry, all the Hiveminds were only in your heads.

It was an interesting set-up, but lacked the large number of kills I'd been expecting from all those PWVs. Ah, well. It was interesting, and I hope everyone had fun with it!


Dopp Chat   
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Spoiler: Role PMs (click to show/hide)

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Doppelgangers
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Doppelgangers, the three of you awoken in your pods to the pounding of the surf. Salt air surrounded you, and the sense of a strange new world. And a hunger, deep and profound. You soon found food nearby and assumed the guise of those you consumed. Now you must secure your survival by removing these suspicious townsfolk before they kill you.

Each night you may choose one among you to go out and perform a Night Kill to satiate your bloodlust and hunger.

Deus Asmoth - You took on the identity of a Telepath. Each night you may choose to Investigate another player to learn their Goal for that night. As a psychic ability, this does not require that you leave your house.

RattyB - You are the Doppelganger Leader, more refined than your fellows you can pass for a human even under close scrutiny. Be careful, though, for a suspicious town may kill you all the same.

TheBiggerFish - You managed to take out a War Vet, unstable and paranoid. Each night, if you are not the one out hunting, you will hunker down in your house with your guns and shoot any who come calling. You also have a natural Anti-Tech Field, which should help protect you from any scientific threats.

The three of you may also freely communicate with each other via telepathy

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TheDarkStar
  You are an alien Agent Operative, sent to assist the human government with tracking down and eliminating the doppelganger threat. When reports came of a possible Doppelganger sighting in a remote fishing village an Agent was sent to investigate. They confirmed that the Pods were real and you were tasked to join and aid in the elimination of the threat.

Be careful, however, for there is no guarantee that the Agent is still Human. You will be informed of their identity in a communication during the first Night.

To aid you in mission, you have been given access to 1 Medium and 2 Small Tech Slots. You have until the end of the First Day phase to choose your items from the Alien Tech list in the rules post.

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4maskwolf (Human)
  You are a War Vet. You came home to this small town after your tours of duty. You figured it would help you get over your PTSD faster but...you’re not better yet. Each night you lay awake, listening for the sounds of gunfire or a shouted alarm about incoming rockets.

And now...now there are monsters here. And you lay awake at night listening for claws at the windows, gun held tight in your hands. If they try to eat you, they’ll get nothing but a face full of lead!

Anyone who visits your house during the night will be Attacked.

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IronyOwl (Human)
  You are a trained Enchanter, skilled at manipulating the minds of others to do what you wish. As such, you votes are counted double in the tally.

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Leafsnail (Human)
  You are just another Townsperson caught up in this nightmare. You’ll need to use all your wits and cunning if you want to make it out alive.
   
To make things worse, you’re a bit of a Kook and will be easily mistaken for a Doppelganger if investigated.

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Persus13 (Human)
  You’ve always taken pride in your willingness to help others, and with word that monsters have infested your small town you’re determined to do whatever you can to keep people safe. You are a Heroic Guard, and each night you may choose to Protect another player. Should they be attacked you will give your life to save theirs, no matter how many attackers come at them.

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Shakerag (Human)
  You are a Telepath, a psychically gifted human with the ability to read other people’s minds. Each night you may choose to Investigate another player to learn their Goal for the night. As a psychic action this does not require that you leave your house.

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Tiruin (Human)
  You are an Intelligence Scientist who came to this village to test some new technology away from the interference of the cities. It seems you choose a poor place to stay, but perhaps your new gear can help save the entire town!

  Choose a tech item from the Intelligence Scientist list by the end of the first day.

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doll (Human)
  You’ve been part of the neighborhood watch for a long time now. Mostly to stop teenagers from getting up to mischief, but your skills have been honed by years of peering out into the darkness. You are an Observant Guard, and each night you can choose to Protect another player. Should they be attacked, you will be able to warn them of who their attacker is and give them time to escape, though it is unlikely that you yourself will also be able to escape.

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fillipk (Human)
  You are a government Agent, sent to this town to assess the rumors of doppelgangers. With confirmation that pods are genuine, you now need to use your skills to help the town survive and stop these monsters from moving out into more populated areas.

Each night you may Investigate another player to determine if they are Human, Doppelganger, or Alien.

hector13 (Human)
  You’ve been a fisherman for years and spent many nights at see, so your perception has been honed by years of peering out into the darkness. You are an Observant Guard, and each night you can choose to Protect another player. Should they be attacked, you will be able to warn them of who their attacker is and give them time to escape, though it is unlikely that you yourself will also be able to escape.

To make things more challenging, you’re a bit of a Kook and will be easily mistaken for a Doppelganger if investigated.

webadict (Human)
  You are a War Vet. You came home to this small town after your tours of duty. The solitude was nice, and you were just starting to really relax again.

And now...now there are monsters here. You’re not going to stand for that! If they try to eat you, they’ll get nothing but a face full of lead!

Anyone who visits your house during the night will be Attacked.

[Mephansteras]

Spoiler: Night 1 (click to show/hide)

Deus Asmoth    Doppelganger    Telepath                Inspect Leafsnail    Survive   

While your Leader goes out to acquire tonight’s dinner you setting yourself in to do a bit of inspection on your enemies. Leafsnail...your thoughts center upon him. The room becomes faint around you and you can see in your mind’s eye all the sparking orbs of thought from the people around you. You feel a tug towards one and zoom in on it, reaching out with spectral claws to scrap the surface of your target’s mind.

Heh. The weak creature seeks only to Survive. You look forward to consuming his flesh.

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doll    Human    Observant Guard                Protect Shakerag    Protects           

After a bit of pondering, you decide to make sure that Shakerag survives the night. You bundle up against the cold and step out into the night.

The wind howls along the shoreline as you trudge through the ice and snow towards his house. Once there you find a sheltered spot to watch for  a while, ready to leap into action should any monsters come calling this night.

In the end, it is a quiet watch and eventually you give up and head home.

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hector13    Human    Observant Guard, Kook            Protect Doll    Protects   

He might be a bit strange, but you decide that it’s worth protecting Doll this night in case any monsters try to eat him.  You bundle up against the cold and make the short trek through the snowy roads to his house.

You find a safe place to keep watch, out of the wind of course, and settle in. Fortunately, he seems unmolested and you eventually head home to get a few hours sleep before the next day.

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IronyOwl    Human    Enchanter                    Dies                       

A warm fire, a hot cup of tea, and a notepad full of notes from today. Good way to spend a cold winter’s evening. Well...two out of three isn’t too bad, you suppose, as you look back over the truth regarding fillipk and his death.

You sigh and put the notes down. You can help save this town, you’re sure of it. You just need to find out who these monsters are!

There is a strange sound outside. Deer? Doppelgangers? Maybe just the wind?

You hope it’s the wind. Can’t even trust deer these days.

Heart beating you creep over to the window and peer out into the darkness.

Glass shatters and you throw up your arm to protect your face and freezing air rushes inside. Sharp pain, and then an overpowering tug which pulls you through the window pane. Your nerves scream out as glass cuts through you in countless places.

You manage a short scream as an eyeless visage bears down upon you, sharp teeth glinting the moonlight.

Death is swift

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RattyB    Doppelganger    Leader                Kill IronyOwl    Kills    Tracking Device on

It is night. Time to shed this disguise and revel in your true self. Time to hunt, to feed.

IronyOwl...yes, it is agreed. He shall make a fine meal for the night. You head out into darkness, heedless of the cold. It cannot touch you.

You arrive at his house. He is home, you can sense him inside. There is warmth there, a fire. The rustling of paper. You creep closer, claws dragging slightly on the wood siding of the house.

He is curious. He is concerned. He is coming towards the window. He is falling into your trap.

Once your prey is close enough you slam a fist through the window pane, grab hold of him, and pull him through. The delicious scent of blood surrounds you! The blood in his veins calls! Your teeth find his throat and swiftly bring an end to his struggles.

You drag the body back to the others to feast. There will be plenty of meat for all tonight.

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Shakerag    Human    Telepath                Investigate Persus13    Survive    Tracking  Device on

You sit before the fireplace, cross legged on a pillow before the flickering flames. You allow the patterns to draw you in. The coals, orange light amidst blackness, you let your mind fall into them.

The lights become the glimmering souls of the people around you. You center your mind on Persus13, skimming through the mindscape until you reach the swirling echoes of his thoughts. You can only taste what is on top but you can make out...he wants only to Survive this night.

With a deep breath you return to your body. It takes you awhile to get up, though. You have much to ponder this night.

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TheDarkStar    Alien    "Agent Operative"                Scan hector13    Human Observant Guard    personal shield, a scanner, and an assassin bot.

This mission is off to a pretty terrible start. You’re expecting a missive from the agency at any time, but you’re pretty sure you know who you were supposed to connect with. Unless there is more than one agent here...well, you’ll know whenever they tell you.

In the meantime, you have a job to do. You pull the Scanner out of your kit and hold it up. It’s only got enough juice for one scan, but it’ll tell you everything you need to know about the target. You set it to seek out and scan hector13 and then settle in for the evening.

Eventually you get a beep and check your computer systems: A missive from HQ. A bit reluctantly you open it:

“Greetings, Operative. Hopefully you have reached the target location and have embedded yourself in the area. We already have one agent on site, going by the moniker of fillipk. Use caution when contacting him, we have no way of knowing if it is still him or a Doppelganger imposter. Good luck, we’re counting on you to solve this problem before they can escape and endanger the surrounding area!”

Sighing you archive it.

A bit while later another beep: The scanner has completed its work. Hector13 is a Human Observant Guard. Well, that could be useful information, at least.

You head off to bed. Tomorrow is going to be a busy day.

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Tiruin    Human    Intelligence Scientist                Make Tracking Devices (auto) 1/2        Tracking Devices x2

You tinker a bit with a new tracking device before heading off to bed.

In the morning you check up on the tracking devices you already placed.

Well, well. It seems that Shakerag stayed home last night but RattyB did not. Cross-checking your map, it looks like he visited IronyOwl’s place last night. Wonder what he was doing there?

You finish your coffee, get dressed, and head off to the town hall. Busy day today. Busy day.

Spoiler: Night2 (click to show/hide)

Deus Asmoth    Doppelganger    Telepath                Kill Shakerag    Kills

With your Leader dead you feel a bit lost and apprehensive. Still, you must try to complete your work here so that you can move out to new hunting grounds.

And, of course, you must feed.

Shakerag...he is a pest. Time to kill him, you have decided.

You shift into your natural form, the a feeling of strength and purpose rushing through you as the bloodlust of the hunt overtakes you.

Frigid winds howl around you, but you barely notice. Shakerag's home is close, now. You feel the warmth of it. You can nearly taste the blood in your mouth already.

He is in the kitchen, yes. Ah, a back door. Perfect.

You smash open the door and rush inside. Your victim stands, shocked, as you barrel into him. A mug of coffee flies from his hand as you rip into his flesh with your claws.

Coffee and blood pool together on the linoleum as you hoist his body over your shoulder and head back out into the night.


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doll    Human    Observant Guard                Protect Tiruin    Protects

Once again you take to the cold night to try and keep another safe. Tiruin, this time. Her efforts to save the town have already proven valuable, you cannot risk the doppelgangers taking vengance on her. She may yet lead you all to the next dopp.

The night freezing cold, an eastern wind blowing in off the seas. You shiver a bit as you watch her house. You really should have brought a thermos of tea or something. Pity.

Eventually you give up. They aren't coming, at least not this night.

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hector13    Human    Observant Guard, Kook    ""            Protect Tiruin    Protects

Truin really came through today. Whatever she did to track that dopp, maybe she can do it again. But she won't be able to if they eat her. You bundle out and head out to keep an eye on her.

The watch is long and cold, but ultimately uneventful. You return how in the wee hours to catch a few hours of sleep.

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Persus13    Human    Heroic Guard                Protect Tiruin    Protects

Tonight you have a mission. You know who needs protecting. Tiruin. Bright girl, that device of hers or whatever really paid off. You just need to make sure she has time to try it again.

You fill up a thermos with some hot chocolate and head out into the cold dark to stand guard over her.

After finding a nice sheltered spot to watch over her you spend some long hours amidst the howling winds. It's cold, and boring, but in the end a quiet watch. You finally head back to catch a few hours of sleep before the next day.

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Shakerag    Human    Telepath                Investigate Leafsnail    Survive, Dies

The fire flickers before you. You let your mind slip loose again, diving into the dark, flickering scene until it becomes the scintillating scene of minds in the dark. Leafsnail...you soar through the mindscape, dipping down into his thoughts to see what can be seen.

Survival, nothing more.

Good news? Bad? You pull yourself back out to reality. Stretching, you get up and head into the kitchen to get some coffee. You have much to think about.

Still warm! Excellent. You pour a fresh mug and are about to take a sip when the door crashes open. Shocked, you can only stare in horror as a faceless monster rushes at you. Sharp claws rip into your flesh, pain exploding across yoru body as it attacks you.

You faintly hear the sound of ceramic shattering as you hit the ground. Your last sight is winter boots standing in a pool of mixing coffee and blood. Pity...you didn't even get to drink any of it. Such...a...waste...

Darkness enfolds you

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Tiruin    Human    Intelligence Scientist                Make Tracking Devices (auto) 2/2    Makes tracking device

A few screws back into the cover and...done! You sit back and admire your handiwork. Another tracking device, and looks like it is in full working order! You pick up the teacup beside you and savor the jasmine scent wafting from it before taking a long drink. Who to put this new one on? A good question. You'll have to think more about it. For now, bed.

In the morning you check on the remaining tracker in the field. Looks like Shakerag once again stayed home.

Well, time to find out what's happened during the night. You grab your coat and make the trek off to the town hall.

Spoiler: Night 3 (click to show/hide)

doll    Human    Observant Guard                    dies   
You pace around your living room, plans and worries racing around in your head. Make the right choices, and the monsters are defeated. Make a wrong choice, and you and everyone else in this town could die.

Who to protect?

As you try to make up your mind you hear a strange sound from outside. You stop mid-pace and look towards the door.

Moments later it shatters inwards with a shower of sparks as a faceless terror smashes its way inside.

You turn and dart towards the fireplace, hand reaching out for one of the fireplace tools. A poker, a shovel, anything. But the creature is faster. It grabs hold of your shirt and yanks you backwards.

You stumble and fall backwards, landing on your back with a painful thud.

The last thing you see is a mouthful of pointed teeth gaping wide as it comes at your throat.

Your soul drifts off to the ether

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hector13    Human    Observant Guard, Kook            Protect Persus    Protects   
You throw on your coat and head off to keep an eye on Persus13 this night. It's cold, but at least the wind has died down. You find a nice spot to watch his house and pass the hours uneventfully until finally deciding that nothing is going to happen. You head home to grab a few hours of sleep before the next day's trial.

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Persus13    Human    Heroic Guard                Guard Tiruin    Protects   
You throw on your coat and head off to keep an eye on Tiruin again this night.

The storm has broken and the sky is full of stars. You idly wonder which one the doppelgangers came from, and why they would be sent to such a remote place. But there is little chance you'll learn the answer to that, least of all this night. Eventually you decide that she's going to be left alone this evening and head off to grab a few hours of sleep while you can.

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TheBiggerFish    Doppelganger    War Vet, Anti-Tech                Kill Doll    Kills, dies   
Worry. Fear. Loss. Loneliness.

You do not wish these feelings. They seem...unnatural to you. Remnants of the human mind, perhaps? You shake them off, physically, as you shift into your true form.

Let the hunt take over. Let the bloodlust consume you.

Doll will die. He shall be prey, and you shall feast upon his flesh this night.

Out into the night. The cold is nothing. The ice and snow upon the ground are nothing. There is only the hunt.

His house is warm, and you can sense him inside. Moving in the living room. Pacing, perhaps? Good. Distracted prey is the easiest to take out.

You debate an ambush. Or a distraction to draw him out. But as you mount the steps to his porch a board creeks. Well, nothing for it then. You kick in the door.

Doll whips around, gaping in shock for a moment before making a move towards the tools held near the fireplace. Ah, seeking weapons.

Good prey! Be sport!

You grab hold of his shirt with his hand just inches from a fire poker and jerk him back. He stumbles and falls backwards, landing flat on his back. Pitiful. You put him out of his misery with a quick rip of his throat using your teeth.

His flesh soothes you. It fills the loss of your podmates. You as much as you need and scatter the rest around the room. Give the remaining humans some horror to destabilize them. Perhaps trip them up enough that you can survive the next few days.

You return to your house, and to your human form, and settle in for the night.

Before you go to sleep you feel a tingling sensation. Your anti-tech field is active for some reason. [Note: Somehow this got left off in the PM I sent to TheBiggerFish. I had to send it to him later in the day when I realized that is was missing]

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TheDarkStar    Alien    "Agent Operative"                Gives Shield and A. Bot to Tiruin.     Gives    personal shield, a scanner, and an assassin bot.

You package up your remaining tech and place it in a box. On the top you write "As Agreed - TDS" and head off to Tiruin's place.

Once there you place it on her doorstep, ring the doorbell, and head off. Can't be too careful, not in times like these.

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Tiruin    Human    Intelligence Scientist                Make Tracking Devices (auto) 1/2, Bot kill TBF    Makes tracking device, Sends bot    Tracking Devices x2

You spend good bit of time investigating the alien tech. Probably too much time, to be honest, but it's not like you could pass up the opportunity! But eventually you pry yourself away from it to do some work on another tracking device. No idea if you'll need another, but you can't be too sure. And they've certainly come in handy so far.

Once you get to a good stopping point you take out the assassin bot and activate it. A surprisingly intuitive UI allows you to select TheBiggerFish as a target and send the thing hovering off into the night.

You grab another cup of tea and sit for a while, just staring into the fireplace. You've just sentenced a man to death. Well...maybe not a real man, a doppelganger. But you don't know for sure. What if you're wrong? You keep telling yourself that it's the right thing, that you could be saving all of humanity with this decision, even if he is human. Despite that, it takes you a long time to get to sleep.

Your mood is no better the next morning. Your stomach is knotted in fear are you turn on your monitors and check the results of the night.

You decide to check on the tracking bot first. It can't hurt anyone, at least. 4maskwolf goes nowhere, so that's...probably good news, you suppose.

With a deep breath you fire up the screen for the Assassin Bot. A simple "Mission Failed - Target not Found" flashes up on the screen. On your doorstep you find the bot. It floats back inside and lands upon its station, ready to be used another time.

You’re not sure if you’re more upset or relieved that the bot failed to kill someone.

You slowly put on your coat, take a deep breath, and head out the door.