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Re: Demonhood 2 -For Demon's call now summons them/-
« Reply #555 on: January 05, 2017, 05:37:09 pm »

Attack it outright! We have nothing to fear.
-1 Find the poorest part of the city, and begin recruiting among them.
Attacking outright would be incredibly costly and leave us vulnerable.
Find the poorest part of the city, and have cultists infiltrate and begin recruiting among them.
Also, Send Mischa to train the magically gifted cultists in fellshore.
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« Reply #556 on: January 05, 2017, 05:57:54 pm »

Bumper crop, you say?

Could we perhaps corrupt said harvest so as to make those who consume it more evil?
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« Reply #557 on: January 05, 2017, 06:02:06 pm »

Remember, smart demons do not eat their taxpayers without a very good reason.

Enter the city and start converting local beggars and other low lifes preaching about the new way that will have no poor or starving. Be sure to create at least 3 Wordbearers because we run low on those
I think this needs more details but it is the course of action I like

Mischa should train cultists of Fellshore
Kate and Mischa's catfights are too funny to have them in differnet places. On a more serious note Fellshore is our main fortress and we need it

New cult power distribution
4 Improving the labyrinth in Fellshore
4 Building wall at Fellshore
6 Recruiting cultists in small remote villages (with feasts done by generous traveling merchants)
2 Assisting you starting the cult in the captial and integrating it into existing province wide cult
6 training and equiping cultists to nails and\or converting mercenaries to Fingers.


Recruit 50 untrained cultists to the grand army. 
We need trained persons for our own army, mercs, knights and others are too valuable to send away. Those cultists should spread the word not to fight effectively. Besides it will be suspicious if conscripts will be well trained in combat.
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Re: Demonhood 2 -For Demon's call now summons them/-
« Reply #558 on: January 05, 2017, 06:05:05 pm »

Remember, smart demons do not eat their taxpayers without a very good reason.

Enter the city and start converting local beggars and other low lifes preaching about the new way that will have no poor or starving. Be sure to create at least 3 Wordbearers because we run low on those
I think this needs more details but it is the course of action I like

Mischa should train cultists of Fellshore
Kate and Mischa's catfights are too funny to have them in differnet places. On a more serious note Fellshore is our main fortress and we need it

New cult power distribution
4 Improving the labyrinth in Fellshore
4 Building wall at Fellshore
6 Recruiting cultists in small remote villages (with feasts done by generous traveling merchants)
2 Assisting you starting the cult in the captial and integrating it into existing province wide cult
6 training and equiping cultists to nails and\or converting mercenaries to Fingers.


Recruit 50 untrained cultists to the grand army. 
We need trained persons for our own army, mercs, knights and others are too valuable to send away. Those cultists should spread the word not to fight effectively. Besides it will be suspicious if conscripts will be well trained in combat.
Attack it outright! We have nothing to fear.
+1
-1 Find the poorest part of the city, and begin recruiting among them.
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« Reply #559 on: January 05, 2017, 06:30:42 pm »

Attack it outright! We have nothing to fear.
-1 Find the poorest part of the city, and begin recruiting among them.
Attacking outright would be incredibly costly and leave us vulnerable.
Find the poorest part of the city, and have cultists infiltrate and begin recruiting among them.
Also, Send Mischa to train the magically gifted cultists in fellshore.

+1

Bumper crop, you say?

Could we perhaps corrupt said harvest so as to make those who consume it more evil?

+1, at least near Oegorda.

Remember, smart demons do not eat their taxpayers without a very good reason.

Enter the city and start converting local beggars and other low lifes preaching about the new way that will have no poor or starving. Be sure to create at least 3 Wordbearers because we run low on those
I think this needs more details but it is the course of action I like

Mischa should train cultists of Fellshore
Kate and Mischa's catfights are too funny to have them in differnet places. On a more serious note Fellshore is our main fortress and we need it

New cult power distribution
4 Improving the labyrinth in Fellshore
4 Building wall at Fellshore
6 Recruiting cultists in small remote villages (with feasts done by generous traveling merchants)
2 Assisting you starting the cult in the captial and integrating it into existing province wide cult
6 training and equiping cultists to nails and\or converting mercenaries to Fingers.


Recruit 50 untrained cultists to the grand army. 
We need trained persons for our own army, mercs, knights and others are too valuable to send away. Those cultists should spread the word not to fight effectively. Besides it will be suspicious if conscripts will be well trained in combat.

+1, with the amendment that Malkus Rom trains 71 rather than only 50.

Malkus Rom should recruit at least 71 Cultists into his army, and begin training them immediately, bringing our legion to an even 100. If we're to slay the Priesthood of Oegorda, we'll need mortal aid, and soon, we'll be recruiting far more Cultists. We'll make two more Smokewraiths and send them to scout the provinces bordering the Duke's.

When Malkus Rom has assembled his army, we'll send his Throng with the aid of Mischa and her two Apprentices to attack and burn a small village on the outskirts of the Duke's territory to see how they do without our assistance. If Malkus Rom manages to capture the village with no escapees, we bless him with one day of uninterrupted pleasure, and boost his Physical power by 3. If he does moderately well, we don't do anything, and task him to do better next time. If he fails completely, we consume his soul and promote the next strongest Cultist. We consume the villager's souls and task Mishap with reanimating the village's corpses

We should select the 5 most zealous and Evil of our nonblessed followers, and go through the process of making them Sacred Wordbearers. At least 2 should survive, putting us at an even 5 Sacred Wordbearers.

The two most powerful Sacred Wordbearers will become Malkus Rom's lieutenants. The two most magically capable and intelligent will study Necromancy under Mischa. One will remain in Nuulyd to help the recruitment process along. The rest will spread the New Way to minor hamlets near Fellshore.

Kate is pregnant with our spawn, and by definition, is higher ranking than the rest of the New Way. To demonstrate her royalty to the rest of the New Way, we'll bless her to have grey skin, orange eyes, a pair of vestigial skeletal wings, a pair of small horns, and supernatural beauty. We'll also bless her with 2 more Mental power, extremely powerful bodily senses, and a greater ability to process and manipulate Evil. She'll be the first of Nokluvgn's Concubines, and when more of our female Cultists prove themselves to us, they'll be elevated to this status as well.

We'll task her with running Fellshore and overseeing the labors of the Cultists. With her blessings, no-one will begin to doubt our power when we go on long campaigns.

Personally, we'll corrupt the dreams of the poorest and most influential citizens of Oegorda, and prioritize corrupting soldiers and military men in the city. We'll send the Spectres into Oegorda to scout the city's defenses and subtly haunt the corrupted city dwellers while they're awake, and make it seem like their dreams are their only refuge.

We also check up on the progress of the Giant Rat-Packs and the Brute Wolves. We set the Hollow Remnants to guard the Labyrinthine Temple in Fellshore.
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« Reply #560 on: January 05, 2017, 06:58:09 pm »

Recruit 50 untrained cultists to the grand army. 
+1, with the amendment that Malkus Rom trains 71 rather than only 50.
Point of clarification: the 'grand army' in question is not yours, but that of Jilgalia. The capital has commanded the Duke to find 1000 new recruits for their army, and there is a plan to infiltrate it with your cultists.

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« Reply #561 on: January 05, 2017, 07:14:12 pm »

-1 to pretty much everything Ardent Debater offered above

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+1, with the amendment that Malkus Rom trains 71 rather than only 50.
We are sending those away, you know? 50 are not for our army but for that 1000 men force that we will send to the Duke's Liege.  (ninja'd by Nuke)

Doing military raids will bring way too much attention to our tyranical duke and I see little reason to do so

In future Kate should be focused on raising the child and it doesn't mix well with being the head of the cult.

Boosting physical\mental power of mortals for the second time have a bad tendency to explode those mortals (see the fate of demonhood 1 evil general).

Rom has knights to serve as his leutenats, far better than Wordbearers that are more useful at civilian jobs. Alternatively he may use his mates among the mercs.
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« Reply #562 on: January 05, 2017, 07:37:35 pm »

Recruit 50 untrained cultists to the grand army. 
+1, with the amendment that Malkus Rom trains 71 rather than only 50.
Point of clarification: the 'grand army' in question is not yours, but that of Jilgalia. The capital has commanded the Duke to find 1000 new recruits for their army, and there is a plan to infiltrate it with your cultists.

Also,
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...boost his Physical power by 3...
...bless her with 2 more Mental power...
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-1 to pretty much everything Ardent Debater offered above

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+1, with the amendment that Malkus Rom trains 71 rather than only 50.
We are sending those away, you know? 50 are not for our army but for that 1000 men force that we will send to the Duke's Liege.  (ninja'd by Nuke)

Doing military raids will bring way too much attention to our tyranical duke and I see little reason to do so

In future Kate should be focused on raising the child and it doesn't mix well with being the head of the cult.

Boosting physical\mental power of mortals for the second time have a bad tendency to explode those mortals (see the fate of demonhood 1 evil general).

Rom has knights to serve as his leutenats, far better than Wordbearers that are more useful at civilian jobs. Alternatively he may use his mates among the mercs.


Hmm, point taken. I hadn't realized that the Cultists would be infiltrating the 1,000 conscript army. 50 is an ideal number.

I still think Malkus Rom should train 71 Cultists, and send 50 to infiltrate the conscript army. The 21 remaining Cultists will join the ranks of the Nails, to give us a force of 50 Nails, which should be more than enough to carry out any minor military operations.

Instead of having Malkus Rom and our force raid a minor hamlet, we'll have them engage in a few mock battles as we use  Illusions to make it more realistic, to better train them for the battle with Oegorda.

The suggestion to bolster Malkus Rom's Physical power and Kate's Mental power and Evil manipulation ability was ill-advised. I still think we should go ahead with the aesthetic blessings for Kate, as it might tilt the child towards being more Demonic, and her appearance would keep Fellshore's faith from wavering. Besides, she's the spouse of a Demon, she should look the part.
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« Reply #563 on: January 05, 2017, 11:46:31 pm »

Attack it outright! We have nothing to fear.
-1 Find the poorest part of the city, and begin recruiting among them.
Attacking outright would be incredibly costly and leave us vulnerable.
Find the poorest part of the city, and have cultists infiltrate and begin recruiting among them.
Also, Send Mischa to train the magically gifted cultists in fellshore.

+1

Bumper crop, you say?

Could we perhaps corrupt said harvest so as to make those who consume it more evil?

+1, at least near Oegorda.


Remember, smart demons do not eat their taxpayers without a very good reason.

Enter the city and start converting local beggars and other low lifes preaching about the new way that will have no poor or starving. Be sure to create at least 3 Wordbearers because we run low on those
I think this needs more details but it is the course of action I like

Mischa should train cultists of Fellshore
Kate and Mischa's catfights are too funny to have them in differnet places. On a more serious note Fellshore is our main fortress and we need it

New cult power distribution
4 Improving the labyrinth in Fellshore
4 Building wall at Fellshore
6 Recruiting cultists in small remote villages (with feasts done by generous traveling merchants)
2 Assisting you starting the cult in the captial and integrating it into existing province wide cult
6 training and equiping cultists to nails and\or converting mercenaries to Fingers.


Recruit 50 untrained cultists to the grand army. 
We need trained persons for our own army, mercs, knights and others are too valuable to send away. Those cultists should spread the word not to fight effectively. Besides it will be suspicious if conscripts will be well trained in combat.

+1

(Deleted the end of your text trying to make my text less confusing, i failed)

+1 all to this (We are already using knights to train cultists by the way, For now Malkus Rom is just recruiting his own mercs)

Wait, it's possible to corrupt the harvest and nobody will notice that the plant is corrupted?

Tell Mischa how the New way cult should focus on protecting the cultists, create our temples and defenses, bring others to the cause and fill us with pleasure, say that they are our body. Tell Mischa that the "Army of Order" cult is underway to be our sword, with a highly complex system to ensure pain to those who defy, us. Make her notice that something is missing, that someone needs  to be the brain, to deal with arcane arts, trick her with these games of words into ASKING US to get more power, to be an arch-mage and begin the preparations into creating a cult focused on exploring the arcane, blessing the warriors and walls, make it get out from her mouth "I want to be our brain", she later can get one smokewraith to teach basic magic

If we will really create a new cult, that's another history. It will depend if someone (us or Mischa) have a good idea :v



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We should select the 5 most zealous and Evil of our nonblessed followers, and go through the process of making them Sacred Wordbearers. At least 2 should survive, putting us at an even 5 Sacred Wordbearers.

+1, but i suggest the most smarter/stronger, or the ones that we think that will just fucking survive the process, because god-dammit

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The two most powerful Sacred Wordbearers will become Malkus Rom's lieutenants.
Err... -1 BUT... One wordbearer really could go with the Malkus. He will represent the New Way among the Army of Order, he/she shall train with Malkus for the sake of surviving and will help Malkus in spreading our cult order and recruiting more members within the army.

The rest of the wordbearers are free to go train with Mischa if they so desire to become stronger, and/or are doing nothing


Poor Kate will discover later that she is NOT thaaaat important, more children will be made.

By the way: Why isn't the Duke's castle listed? It's not reaaally a fortress and is just a palace? Or it's because we don't recruited it's outskirts?
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« Reply #564 on: January 05, 2017, 11:59:40 pm »

I prefer 90-99% human\10-1% demon child to any other. After all we can summon a demon or mate with... well pretty much everything that not human. Taking a canine form and mating with alpha female brutewolf is one of the ways to get a truly demonic offspring.

One problem with Worbearers, their taint is easili noticeable by various forces of good.
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« Reply #565 on: January 06, 2017, 12:02:12 am »

Or find another actual Demon. :^)
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« Reply #566 on: January 06, 2017, 03:28:58 am »

If we wanted to buff Mischa more,  I recall Nuke saying we could make her a word bearer as well.
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« Reply #567 on: January 06, 2017, 03:43:45 am »

-1 to making Mischa a wordbearer

We just upgraded her with that forest, lets see what she can do with it. 

Ask Mischa about mortal wizardry and if she is able/skilled at teaching it.  If not we can find another.

If she can, she should take those who can be trained with her back to her lab.  Let the mages not consort too much with the new way cult.

Ask Mischa to experiment with alchemy and enchantment using necromancy.  We want to know some practical limitations and avenues of growth.

I would suggest, rather then offer the beggars and poor food and satiation in the waking world, offer it in dreams.  Make their dreams wonderful, full of all the hidden desires they have and reward them with more dreams as they do depraved things in the waking world.  We can gradually corrupt the entire peasant and working class.  By the time we offer them plenty in the waking world they will be ready to be as corrupt as our cultists in Felshore.  Thousands of them.  Also just going in in secret can let us get a good glimpse of what is going on.

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« Reply #568 on: January 06, 2017, 04:04:19 am »

Wordbearing so far had 33% failure chance. We don't want to risk our champion. So -1 to wordbearing Mischa

As for the corruption of the poor.  Note that current plan has no feasts for the city already. Feasts are for small villages.

As for how will we corrupt citizens... I am considering this
Enter the city under disguise of a poor wanderer. Walk through the streets preaching about incoming new way among beggars, urchins, street prostitutes. In the same time corrupt them in their dreams.  Should you get arrested for spreading blasphemy allow guards to drag you to a prison and continue there by settling in the dreams of criminals and guards

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« Reply #569 on: January 06, 2017, 05:01:36 am »

I think Nuke said we'd find it difficult to disguise ourselves now,  due to our power level.
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